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well its not like he was praised when the video came out back then
If Jay-z came out with the video sunshine today he would crucified
YamoleySensei
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Fuck outta here....this nigga got a passes for "Beach Chair", "Ghetto Techno", "Justify my Thug", "Young Forever", "DOA", "Hello Brooklyn" and all them shits were wack as fuck.
If he dropped "Sunshine" today it would still be a hit...
and "Sunshine" >>> those wack Jay songs I listed
If he dropped "Sunshine" today it would still be a hit...
and "Sunshine" >>> those wack Jay songs I listed
5th Letter
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probably not considered what is being passed as "hot music" in this day and age.
Tommy bilfiger
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Sunshine is tight and its better than that wacc ass u owe me trash where nasir was roccin leather cowboy hats nastradaumas was definitely a prophet cuz thats the irs' theme song for nas in 2012
Jigga bars was on some ride or die tip wit fox bacc doorin
Classick tracc
Jigga bars was on some ride or die tip wit fox bacc doorin
Classick tracc
SheerExcellence
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he was crucified for it then
dame dash came out and said hype williams the director hyped them up to do it and they regret it to this day
dame dash came out and said hype williams the director hyped them up to do it and they regret it to this day
tompetrez3
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Sunshine video wasnt even bad. The fish eye lens was breaking technology in 1997 lol. Besides Jay Z killed that city is mine video which dropped before sunshine so real Jay Z fans like me knew he had to make a party song and loud colored video for a second single. Sunshine song is so dope that i overlook whatever faults the video got Jay Z ripped that beat to shreds. And in all fairness to Jay Z only a month or 2 later he dropped Streets Is Watching VHS and anykind of hip hop film at that time was rare and well appreciated.
NothingButTheTruth
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Not even close. Jay's flow was so much more fluid back then. If anything he would be praised for showing that he still has it, instead of going bar for bar with average emcees like Kanye.
HAF BAYKED;4499543 said:
@haf bayked
You are absolutely right, because this type of song and video is what most likely killed Mic Geronimo's career.
THANKS PUFF.......
More evidence that I say Puff is one of the reasons why hip hop died on the mainstream level and replaced with commercialism.
And I believe Jay even is documented in saying that he hated Sunshine, the video, at least. He laughed about it, but he looks back at the video shoot and thought it was cool at the time, since that was the movement, but now regrets it because it made him look silly.
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Sunshine was basically 21 questions before 21 questions. I remember reading magazines ratings of Vol 1 back then (The Source, Blaze,Rap Pages,etc) and Jay got criticized alot for that album, i remember them criticizing him for making personal songs like (You must love me, Lucky Me,etc). Ironic isn't it, the same mfs who say he is shallow now were the same ones who shat on him back then when he got deeper.
Mr.LV;4499565 said:
Fam I'll give you a shot to really clarify what you sayin right now.
B/c i know you not gon sit here and act like, after RD, that people weren't killin Jay for Sunshine, b/c they thought he was goin 'Shiny suit'
I KNOW u not gon sit here and act like people havent seen the Jay z Behind the Music where Irv Gotti said 'Yea Jay looked like a Camel on that, not a good look'
I really dont wana insult you like that fam please tell me this is not what you're saying lol
I'll wait.
usmarin3;4499939 said:
@ bolded- Nahhh. Sunshine, to quote Beanie Sigel, was on some 'sappy beats...flutes and xylophones' type ish. It was 1) the SOUND of the song, and 2)the video..that made it a target, not the fact he was rappin to a chick.
@ Everythign else- that's not correct. They killed him for the upbeat, party, 'life is good' direction of the album, since RD was obviously more street-oriented. Sunshine and songs like 'What girls like' and 'Who u wit' were the foundation for the 'all he talks about is bytches and money' arguments. Songs like Lucky Me and U must love me were hailed if anything, not crucified. I mean those are the types of songs that made RD, thats what people wanted
