If god is real and so is "Satan"...

[judahxulu]

Then who does God over throw in heaven? Who tempts? Who tempted Jesus, Yeshua, Jose, whatever his god damn name. Who told Eve to go ahead and think for herself? Who tortured Job? (trick question, God did but wfho helped?)

heaven is the higher faculties of ur mind. the YHWH within a man, the breath of life is in confrontation with satahn which simply means "adversary" meaning a polemic, conflict based mindstate. satan is a polemic, conflict based mindstate. it became an egregore that does not have to be housed by a human but frequently is in part.i dont put the gospels on par with the hebrew scriptures and i cant read koine greek like that so i couldnt answer that second one buit i do know the concept of the devil or Satan as a single figure came waaay after the hebrew scriptures were written as did a heaven or hell in the afterlife as ancient hebrews believed in re-incarnation and transmutation. the serpent in genesis is never referred to as satan in hebrew, lating, geek or english and the serpent did not tell her to think for herself. she wasnt thinking about consuming the knowledge of good and evil (adversarialism) before he suggested making it apparent that he THOUGHT FOR HER and tricked her into going against her original plan. job was not tortured and once again that adversarial energy was not a person or suupernatural being with a name. it was energy.

but whatever. yall can carry on with this pathetic bullshit. u niggas talk about the shit u claim not to believe in more than muuthafuckas do that say they believe on god, jesus, the bible and everything else religion trolls ridicule.

in the end u wil see what it is and u have my deepest condolences. minds like urs cant exist in days to come and ur physical body will refuse to house it.

 

[judahxulu]

why were the israelites living off of the egyptians in the first place? why not be in their own land in israel?

if u read enough to cherry pick those verses from exodus then u know good and fucking well they weren't living off them and u know the chain of events that led them to being there and the nature of those nations interactions. if u doont like the bible dont read the muthafucka but if u gone offer critique at least know your shit and/or stop with the manipulative, leading questions.

 

[waterproof]

heaven is the higher faculties of ur mind. the YHWH within a man, the breath of life is in confrontation with satahn which simply means "adversary" meaning a polemic, conflict based mindstate. satan is a polemic, conflict based mindstate. it became an egregore that does not have to be housed by a human but frequently is in part.i dont put the gospels on par with the hebrew scriptures and i cant read koine greek like that so i couldnt answer that second one buit i do know the concept of the devil or Satan as a single figure came waaay after the hebrew scriptures were written as did a heaven or hell in the afterlife as ancient hebrews believed in re-incarnation and transmutation. the serpent in genesis is never referred to as satan in hebrew, lating, geek or english and the serpent did not tell her to think for herself. she wasnt thinking about consuming the knowledge of good and evil (adversarialism) before he suggested making it apparent that he THOUGHT FOR HER and tricked her into going against her original plan. job was not tortured and once again that adversarial energy was not a person or suupernatural being with a name. it was energy.

but whatever. yall can carry on with this pathetic bullshit. u niggas talk about the shit u claim not to believe in more than muuthafuckas do that say they believe on god, jesus, the bible and everything else religion trolls ridicule.

in the end u wil see what it is and u have my deepest condolences. minds like urs cant exist in days to come and ur physical body will refuse to house it.

I need some more understanding what you kicked brother, where i need to go and get that understanding

 

[judahxulu]

This isn't about court though, my point was no matter why someone murders someone else for, you're going to be in trouble for it. People don't walk around justifiably killing others, such as God. If they're evil for what they do, then why isn't God? I don't give two fucks about a court, corruption or people who are acquitted or found guilty when they should be. It's wrong but what the fuck is my opinion? Nothing.

sooo is in america in trouble for iraq? for all the native tribes? for chattel slavery?

your pride is a source of laughter to me. instead of admit u made an illegtimate comparison with that court of law shit in the first place u dancing all around the point of what im saying and the truth of it.

if a family that stayed down the street from u killed your mother and fucked ur infannt child on top of her corpse would u kill them if u had the power to do so?

 

[Rock_Well]

So you're going to turn a blind eye to the fact that every time he went to do this, Pharaoh was prevented from doing so by God. God hardened his heart, God CHANGED his MIND for HIM. Pharaoh was a puppet.

Really, that's exactly how it plays out too.

Pharaoh: I'll let your peeps go

God: No you won't, *zap*

Pharaoh: the fuck? I ain't letting SHIT GO, get out BIIIITCH

Moses: God's gonna fuck your people up

Pharaoh: Okay, I'll do it, hold up a min..

God: lol, hell no *zap zap*

Pharaoh: The fuck you think I'm gonna bitch out like that for? fuck off

Moses: Maaaan I'm tellin' ya!

Pharaoh: Man, I said I would let them go, I don't know what the fuck is up, HOLD UP

God: @Satan, this is funny huh... *zap zap*

Pharaoh: Fuck off Moses and fuck your God...

Moses: @God, yo he ain't doing it..

God: @Moses, hold up, I got some plagues cooking up right now..

Satan: @God, man, that's fucked, I wouldn't even do that

God: @Satan, stfu man lol get over it

I'm pretty sure it'd play out just like that lol

it's chess. in chess who's 'fault' is it, if a player ends up in a position where either move they choose to go, they have to bite the bullet?

The true understanding of what happened with Pharoah is NOT that God took away his will to obey, but that he was in such a position that he would himself would choose NOT to obey God's command. Just because God was behind the scenes directing the events doesn't imply that Pharoah did not make his OWN CHOICE. Scripture also say that by Noah's actions the rest of the world was condemned. Now why don't you hold Noah accountable for the fate the rest of the world had to meet with? Or do you not understand that it's not really saying that Noah directly caused the world to suffer.

lol people sure have a selective interpretation with language when they want to.

 

[kingblaze84]

Why dont we worship Satan? Tbh he is better than god, he's done nothing wrong and gets a bad rap. God is like the white guy and Satan is the black guy, no matter what happens Satan gets the bad end of the deal. Haven't you ever wondered maybe Satan is the right fellow to follow and worship?

Why not??? I have no problem with those who worship Satan personally.

If this god we have is all about hurricanes, tornadoes, slavery, and diseases, than maybe Satan can offer something better.

I'm all for worshiping Satan personally. This present god we have seems more evil than any Satan character I can think of.

 

[kingblaze84]

bruh.. i ALREADY KNEW you were about to post that "high body count" b.s.

You can go on with your what if's and what have you.

but u and i BOTH know that you aint bout to serve the devil, no matter how angry you may be at God.. i think you know better

The Biblical god is a mass murdering psychopath that supports slavery. How is your Bible god any more moral than Satan??

 

[beenwize]

if u read enough to cherry pick those verses from exodus then u know good and fucking well they weren't living off them and u know the chain of events that led them to being there and the nature of those nations interactions. if u doont like the bible dont read the muthafucka but if u gone offer critique at least know your shit and/or stop with the manipulative, leading questions.

the point of posting only those scriptures were to prove a point in which u tried to say was not true, that god hardened pharoahs heart.

why was the word of god not in earth while they lived in egypt under joseph or whoever? why wait until they get enslaved and then want to give them scriptures?

something is not adding up with your bible story thats why u are getting so angry.

 

[Rock_Well]

Is your god playing war games with his own creations??? He allows people to get enslaved in egypt so he can secretly come in and slaughter everyone?

Exodus 4:21

The LORD said to Moses, “When you return to Egypt, see that you perform before Pharaoh all the wonders I have given you the power to do. But I will harden his heart so that he will not let the people go.

Exodus 7:3

3But I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and though I multiply my signs and wonders in the land of Egypt,

Exodus 14:8

The LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh king of Egypt, so that he pursued the Israelites, who were marching out boldly.

Exodus 10:1

Then the LORD said to Moses, “Go to Pharaoh, for I have hardened his heart and the hearts of his officials so that I may perform these signs of mine among them

Exodus 10:20

But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he would not let the Israelites go.

You didn't prove your case with these scriptures sry

 

[beenwize]

The Biblical god is a mass murdering psychopath that supports slavery. How is your Bible god any more moral than Satan??

see this.........

 

[beenwize]

You didn't prove your case with these scriptures sry

u said that god didnt harden pharoahs heart. those scriptures prove u wrong.

 

[b*braze]

sooo... yall lookin for an excuse to worship satan/the devil, or what?

i mean, really, if you dont believe in god, why care how many hypothetical bodies he got?

 

[kingblaze84]

God is a mas murderer and niggas defend him?
dude is no better than Manson
dude wiped the planet, killed all the firstborn in Egypt, killed alot of Hebrews with snakes
dude is/was/ was made out as a sadist

Exactly why I stopped being a Christian. Don't forget the evil Biblical god's support of slavery

 

[beenwize]

sooo... yall lookin for an excuse to worship satan/the devil, or what?

i mean, really, if you dont believe in god, why care how many hypothetical bodies he got?

i dont want to worship satan.

 

[Rock_Well]

u said that god didnt harden pharoahs heart. those scriptures prove u wrong.

Yes it's says God hardened Pharoah's heart. It does not say God took away Pharoah's ability to make his own choice.

If what happened was that God took away Pharoah's ability to make his own choice, it would've said so.

 

[fiat_money]

Because the first mythical being you mentioned has more magical powers than the second one.

Magic, that's what it all boils down to.

 

[VIBE]

sooo... yall lookin for an excuse to worship satan/the devil, or what?

i mean, really, if you dont believe in god, why care how many hypothetical bodies he got?

Topic just for the sake of discussion, also attention grabbing. I enjoy this, not for trolling reasons but just for the sake of the discussion. I'm not worhiping anything, although if I was to, Satan seems more of the go to guy.

 

[VIBE]

Yes it's says God hardened Pharoah's heart. It does not say God took away Pharoah's ability to make his own choice.
If what happened was that God took away Pharoah's ability to make his own choice, it would've said so.

That's what it's saying smarty, god changed his mind, god didn't literally harden his heart, otherwise he would've died.

 

[beenwize]

Yes it's says God hardened Pharoah's heart. It does not say God took away Pharoah's ability to make his own choice.

If what happened was that God took away Pharoah's ability to make his own choice, it would've said so.

dude plz god hardened pharoahs heart so that he wouldnt let the israelites go free... god made the decision for pharoah u fool.

u are seriously dumb and your mind is conquered by a white man religious book.

 

[judahxulu]

the point of posting only those scriptures were to prove a point in which u tried to say was not true, that god hardened pharoahs heart.

why was the word of god not in earth while they lived in egypt under joseph or whoever? why wait until they get enslaved and then want to give them scriptures?

something is not adding up with your bible story thats why u are getting so angry.

i didnt say that was not true that YHWH hardened Pharaohs heart in the bible. the original hebrew text as a slightly different understanding but thats another point.

who said it wasnt in the earth? who said there werent already scriptures? who said the egyptians didnt have that word at some point before there AROSE A PHAROAH WHO KNEW NOT JACOB?

im not angray at all. and u didnt refute any of my specific points which basically invalidate ur declarations. the information i added changes the perspective of the exodus in light of the abbreviated and skewed version u offered. id u dont believe in a higher power u dont have to make up shit or twist things u dont understand to prove yourself. that just makes u look stupid and insecure in ur disbelief. i dont care what u believe or dont believe. i know what i know and i benefit from my experiential knowledge of the most high. im just adding clarity. you anger me no more than a housefly or a paper cut.you are the only one that has to live with the consequences of what u think say and do. if anything i feel soory for u but then again not really because of instead of being at peace with what u disbelieve and think u know u seek to go on the offensive against an illusion that only exists within the realm of your own misconceptions.