If god is real and so is "Satan"...

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VIBE86;3602936 said:
Wait, really?

God didn't flood the earth and kill all of the human population except for a family in whom he saw Noah as "righteous" ?

God didn't hear the cries of Sodom and Gomorrah, in which he supposedly came himself to see, then go back and say he was going to destroy the cities?

Two mass killings, NOT by God?

Not to mention, even the ones who Satan killed (Job's family) were by PERMISSION of God himself. Hell, sounds like a boss hit to me. Manson didn't kill anyone, yet he's in prison, oh he had those allowed by permission.

So really though?

well scripture also says that Noah actions condemned the rest of the world when he entered the ark. how is that possible?

but anyways you looking at it wrong because you fail to understand that death is always brought about by evil. That God uses the evil to accomplish His will is irrelevant. And you can't charge God up for carrying out what he promised to people. And neither for killings that are justified. How do you feel about capital punishment? how is it that the state can allow a citizen to be put to death without charge?
 
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God is a mas murderer and niggas defend him?
dude is no better than Manson
dude wiped the planet, killed all the firstborn in Egypt, killed alot of Hebrews with snakes
dude is/was/ was made out as a sadist
 
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A murderer is a murderer though, I can't go out there and say, "this mall full of people are sinners, they DESERVE to die so I'm gonna murk them all, in the word, grace and holiness of God's name."

Really?

After Moses got back from the mountain, where he "spoke" to God, God told him to kill 3,000 people. Isn't murder wrong though? This is at the same damn time he supposedly received the Commandments too lol

So basically, God is God, he can go and murk 'em all without question yet if it's attributed to the devil it's wrong, he's evil, he's bad, oh evil him! LOL WHOA! It's a mind fuck, really what I said I know is a mind fuck and it's a turn of each character. Hard to even fathom thinking God is "bad", right?
 
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ItzGravitation;3603290 said:
God is a mas murderer and niggas defend him?
dude is no better than Manson
dude wiped the planet, killed all the firstborn in Egypt, killed alot of Hebrews with snakes
dude is/was/ was made out as a sadist

None of us have actually spoken to God. In the Bible he sends angels to earth but in our times nobody has ever communicated with an angel about what GOd has to say.
 
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beenwize;3603327 said:
In the Bible it says he chose a people the Israelites and commands them to go into cities to slaughter old, child, men and women in the entire city. It doesnt make sense for there to be a all powerful God but yet there are thousands of religions on this planet and people are confused after thousands of years about who the real God is.

None of us have actually spoken to God. In the Bible he sends angels to earth but in our times nobody has ever communicated with an angel about what GOd has to say.

that is odd
with all the cameras and shit you would think there would be proof of at least an angel
but if he commands the ppl its still him murdering women, children and ppl that havent done anything
God is evil and Satan is good
 
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judahxulu;3603233 said:
thats not how either thing went. for the flood people were warned for HUNDREDS OF YEARS to change or the rain is coming. in sodom and gommorah an angel was sent (obviously a human) and they tried to rape the nigga. in either instance 1) niggas had a chance to get it together 2.) they SHOULD HAVE GOLT WIPED OUT. everybody dont deserve to live. molestation and anal rape were a cultural standard in sodom and gommorah, for example. certain kinds of people need to die. when a culture or society has evil as a socially accepted norm they NEED TO BE PURGED. saving the lives of people that would destroy or ruin others lives is not respectiing the human rights of the potential, existing and past victims.

20And the LORD said, "Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;

21I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know."

I don't see how someone else went in God's place, although I've heard that numerous times. God is said here, to be SAYING this, so I quoted it because he's speaking. He said, I, not someone else, not this angel, not them, not you, I, meaning God himself went down. Then he murked 'em, like I said though regardless of their "sin", it's uncalled for.

Many don't agree with the death penalty, many believers don't as well, their crimes are bad but yet they don't deserve to die? If they don't why do the people in the bible?

I mean it truly does seem like God does the "evil, bad, naughty" stuff that normally is attributed to the devil or evil people, who deserve punishment.
 
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VIBE86;3603320 said:
A murderer is a murderer though, I can't go out there and say, "this mall full of people are sinners, they DESERVE to die so I'm gonna murk them all, in the word, grace and holiness of God's name."

Really?

After Moses got back from the mountain, where he "spoke" to God, God told him to kill 3,000 people. Isn't murder wrong though? This is at the same damn time he supposedly received the Commandments too lol

So basically, God is God, he can go and murk 'em all without question yet if it's attributed to the devil it's wrong, he's evil, he's bad, oh evil him! LOL WHOA! It's a mind fuck, really what I said I know is a mind fuck and it's a turn of each character. Hard to even fathom thinking God is "bad", right?

see this.............
 
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beenwize;3603183 said:
Why did God have to harden the heart of Pharoah so that he could slaughter the Egyptians? If he can control our minds then why didnt he allow the Egyptians to free the Israelites peacefully and without death?

Exodus 10:1

Then the LORD said to Moses, "Go to Pharaoh, for I have hardened his heart and the hearts of his officials so that I may perform these miraculous signs of mine among them

Pharaoh got played, that's all. Pharoah could've avoided this all, but no. he wanted to be a tough guy. And God being the grand master chess player knew this, and used it against him. And also God wanted to prove to the world and other nations His power, so he raised up such a Pharoah that ended up giving him oppourtunity to show this.
 
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ItzGravitation;3603345 said:
that is odd
with all the cameras and shit you would think there would be proof of at least an angel
but if he commands the ppl its still him murdering women, children and ppl that havent done anything
God is evil and Satan is good

and then to end a life of confusion Christians say we go to an everlasting hell if we dont believing in the Bible.
 
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solid analysis;3603359 said:
Pharaoh got played, that's all. Pharoah could've avoided this all, but no. he wanted to be a tough guy. And God being the grand master chess player knew this, and used it against him. And also God wanted to prove to the world and other nations His power, so he raised up such a Pharoah that ended up giving him oppourtunity to show this.

jews sabotaged everything
there was no god
 
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judahxulu;3603233 said:
thats not how either thing went. for the flood people were warned for HUNDREDS OF YEARS to change or the rain is coming. in sodom and gommorah an angel was sent (obviously a human) and they tried to rape the nigga. in either instance 1) niggas had a chance to get it together 2.) they SHOULD HAVE GOLT WIPED OUT. everybody dont deserve to live. molestation and anal rape were a cultural standard in sodom and gommorah, for example. certain kinds of people need to die. when a culture or society has evil as a socially accepted norm they NEED TO BE PURGED. saving the lives of people that would destroy or ruin others lives is not respectiing the human rights of the potential, existing and past victims.

lol yes they did! shame...smh
 
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"killings that are justified"

So what would justify you to commit murder, that would play out in your favor in a court of law? Could you go to a strip club, kill all employees and customers because it's a sin, it's adultery? Justifiable in the eyes of God, obviously yes, but in a court of law? HELL no.

Maybe we can go to a local church in which they worship idols, such as Moses killing 3,000 people for worshiping a calf, we can slaughter all who worship their gods as idols?

No? Why not? It's a justifiable killing, right?
 
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solid analysis;3603359 said:
Pharaoh got played, that's all. Pharoah could've avoided this all, but no. he wanted to be a tough guy. And God being the grand master chess player knew this, and used it against him. And also God wanted to prove to the world and other nations His power, so he raised up such a Pharoah that ended up giving him oppourtunity to show this.

How did pharoah want to be the tough guy when God HARDENED his heart so that he could slaughter the Egyptians???? If God is all knowing then he must have knew if he never would have hardened pharoahs heart then the israelites could have left egypt.
 
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solid analysis;3603359 said:
Pharaoh got played, that's all. Pharoah could've avoided this all, but no. he wanted to be a tough guy. And God being the grand master chess player knew this, and used it against him. And also God wanted to prove to the world and other nations His power, so he raised up such a Pharoah that ended up giving him oppourtunity to show this.

LMAO!

How more evil can you get than God though?

God asked something of Pharaoh and when he went to do it, GOD STOPPED HIM! It's God's fault, God played a game, he played with his victim lol come on now, modern day serial killer movie here. How are you gonna ask something of someone, then blatantly harden their heart to prevent them from doing it? How is it the Pharaohs fault? He's being puppeted by God, no ifs ands or buts lol dude, really?
 
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VIBE86;3603347 said:
20And the LORD said, "Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;

21I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know."

I don't see how someone else went in God's place, although I've heard that numerous times. God is said here, to be SAYING this, so I quoted it because he's speaking. He said, I, not someone else, not this angel, not them, not you, I, meaning God himself went down. Then he murked 'em, like I said though regardless of their "sin", it's uncalled for.

Many don't agree with the death penalty, many believers don't as well, their crimes are bad but yet they don't deserve to die? If they don't why do the people in the bible?

I mean it truly does seem like God does the "evil, bad, naughty" stuff that normally is attributed to the devil or evil people, who deserve punishment.

If God is all knowing and ominiprescense then why did he need to come down from somewhere to see what was going on?

Also in this verse below it seems to indicate that God is flesh also?

Genesis 6:3

And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
 
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solid analysis;3603359 said:
Pharaoh got played, that's all. Pharoah could've avoided this all, but no. he wanted to be a tough guy. And God being the grand master chess player knew this, and used it against him. And also God wanted to prove to the world and other nations His power, so he raised up such a Pharoah that ended up giving him oppourtunity to show this.

If your god is Creator of Heaven & Earth then that would make us to be less than ants to him.... So then why does he want us to put our own family members to death if they worship other so called gods that really dont even exist??? If he is the Creator of Heaven & Earth then there must not be any other gods right? So if thats the case why then would he demand us to stone our families to death for worshiping a god he knows does not exist?

Also what would God get from humans worshipping him if we are like ants to him?

Deuteronomy 13:6

If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known,

gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other),

do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him.

You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people.

Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery

Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.
 
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So it wouldn't be crazy if God was really the devil and the devil was God, just during the overthrowing, God didn't make it to overpower the devil, the devil got the upper hand and won it.....
 
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