If A.I. was 6"2 or 6"3 would he have been a better player?

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ysl313;3025126 said:
you put kg on any other 1-4 seed of 01-05 and you get a title run or a championship caliber team. That doesn't mean shit blood lol.

like i said, hypothetical questions are alright but history is what it is...both men had crazy 2000 post jordan runs with a bunch of points, highights, and performances...but in the end, all we have is what we have. A.I. is old flabby and sick and kobe is old but still one of the best in the league while IVO can't get a run.

Point is wondering what a.i. would be if you rewrote history is not new thread worthy. what if he was 6'3 but had greg oden style career injuries? a lot of what ifs can be made all that matters though is what is and what is going to happen not what could have happen...

shit the pistons could of had wade/melo/bosh instead of darko, but we didn't...don't dwell on what could have been...

I just caught the end of that.

A.I. is 36 and started since he came in the league. Kobe is 32 and didn't start into 3 years in the NBA. A.I. weighing 165lbs didn't help either. It's not a slight to A.I. that he's not playing any longer. He was a top player for 12 years.
 
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matt-;3025253 said:
so what are you arguing? that Kobe and Iverson have similar stats?

or that people dislike Iverson?

or that Iverson should be put up on the same pedestal as kobe?

or that if iverson was taller, he would have dominated even more?

or you just talkin basketball just cause

Simple Matt.

Give A.I. four inches and he's a better player. The point is strengthened being that he was a midget by NBA standards and hanging with one of the GOATs statistically. People dislike A.I. i guess because he never won and his attitude issues. We just have to remember that he didn't play with anyone good. I apologize if you failed to see my point earlier.
 
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Rey Negro;3025290 said:
Simple Matt.

Give A.I. four inches and he's a better player. The point is strengthened being that he was a midget by NBA standards and hanging with one of the GOATs statistically. People dislike A.I. i guess because he never won and his attitude issues. We just have to remember that he didn't play with anyone good. I apologize if you failed to see my point earlier.

good, so at least you agree that Iverson gets respect and was one of the most popular players in the NBA for 10+ years. its its WIDELY accepted that he gets the respect he does b/c he WAS undersized and because he didn't play on great teams. it think most people would agree to that.

so the only other part that has to be addressed is the imaginary scenario where he would be 6' 3". and its pointless to even go down that road
 
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tommy bilfiger;3025336 said:
so basically you tryna argue some hypothetical bullshit

if he was 4 inches taller he would be better if he was 190-200 he would be better if,if,if

who cares he wasn't and he did his thing him and zeke have the most heart out any little guards ever

lol @ light years ahead of rose nah homeboy rose career after 3 years>>>>iversons

and rose works he dont be at the clubs drunk buyin out the bars so 6 years from now rose>>>iverson

word

nope lol...
 
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Iverson is the truth regardless

we need to see him back in the game for atleast 2 more years
 
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Tommy bilfiger;3025336 said:
So basically you tryna argue some hypothetical bullshit

IF he was 4 inches taller he would be better IF he was 190-200 he would be better IF,IF,IF

Who cares he wasn't and he did his thing him and zeke have the most heart out any little guards ever

Lol @ light years ahead of rose nah homeboy rose career after 3 years>>>>Iversons

And rose works he dont be at the clubs drunk buyin out the bars so 6 years from now rose>>>Iverson

Word

Cmon bruh. Really? That's blatant hypocrisy lol.
 
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Tommy bilfiger;3025437 said:
After 3 years

Rose 1 Roy

Iverson 1 roy

Rose 2 all star games

Iverson 0 all star games

Rose 3 playoff appearances

Iverson 1

Rose 1 mvp

Iverson Zero mvp's

Iverson career high in assists 7.9 (9th season)

Rose 3rd year in assists 7.7(3rd season)

You aint gonna disrespect my little brother like that,after 3 years his career is lookin better than iversons

First years
A.I. - .416% FG, .341% 3PT, .702% FT, 4.1 Rebounds, 7.5 Assists, 2.1 Steals, .3 Blocks, 23.5 Points
Rose - .475% FG, .222% 3PT, .788% FT, 3.9 Rebounds, 6.3 Assists, .8 Steals, .2 Blocks, 16.8 Points

Second years
A.I. - .461% FG, .298% 3PT, .729% FT, 3.7 Rebounds, 6.2 Assists, 2.2 Steals, .3 Blocks, 22.0 Points
Rose - .489% FG, .267% 3PT, .766% FT, 3.8 Rebounds, 6 Assists, .7 Steals, .4 Blocks, 20.8 Points

Third years
A.I. - .412% FG, .291% 3PT, .751% FT, 4.9 Rebounds, 4.6 Assists, 2.3 Steals, .2 Blocks, 26.8 Points
Rose - .445% FG, .332% 3PT, .860% FT, 4.1 Rebounds, 7.7 Assists, 1 Steal, .63 Blocks, 25.0 Points

Playoff appearance - 3rd year for both
A.I. - .411% FG, .283% 3PT, .712% FT, 4.1 Rebounds, 4.9 Assists, 2.5 Steals, .2 Blocks, 28.5 Points
Rose - .396% FG, .248% 3PT, .828% FT, 4.3 Rebounds, 7.7 Assists, 1.4 Steals, .7 Blocks, 27.1 Points
 
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So we going to seat here and act like AI ego would have allowed another legitimate all star like KG
 
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G Mackin' It;3025667 said:
So we going to seat here and act like AI ego would have allowed another legitimate all star like KG

i think we should take this one hypothetical at a time.
besides what other legitimate all star did he play with that we have to go on- He deferred to Carmelo entirely too much and more than welcomed the only leg C-Webb took with him from Sacramento
 
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Exactly how much better could iverson of been ?he was allready one of the best in his era. It was more the team around him more then anything. He just got old and lost some of his motivation to play at top notch level. Whats up with all the iverson threads any way.
 
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First off, AI would not have been better by making him taller. If he were taller he would not have been as quick and would have never learned to get his shot off in the lane the way he did.

Also, as pointed out by the stats guru earlier, AI's first three years don't stack up against Rose's. But they are two different type players. AI was top 3 "shoot first" guards!
 
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even if he was 6'4 he would of been the same ball hoggin, bad work ethic, bad leader and all about himself type of player and would of eventually ran himself out of whatever team he was playing for
 
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Tommy bilfiger;3026185 said:
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Iverson would of been a better player if he aint have to get held up on his feet in the club in between games or in the offseason

this nigga look like he about to fall the fuck over

It Has nothin to do wit his height/weight and more about work ethic/attitude

He won multiple scoring titles and a mvp at that same height

And this is some undercover rose vs ai thread but it got bodied

quick

Ty Gracie!!!!!! but real talk look at what he was doing at 5'11 6'0 come on droppin 40 like that dude wouldve been the top 5 player ever!!!
 
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Rey Negro;3024898 said:
For whatever reason, niggas dislike Iverson. Maybe yall didn't watch Basketball 10 years ago, maybe yall were born in 1996 or maybe yall are just dickriders who only dickride who's hot at the moment. Niggas stan Derrick Rose like Iverson wasn't lightyears ahead of him at his prime.
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matt-;3025035 said:
i dont know if i've read a more false statement in my life.

thats exactly who LOVED/LOVES Iverson.

matt-;3025073 said:
for whatever reason, blue collar white people who grew up in the 80's and 90's dislike Larry Bird

lol.................
 
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