I would never marry a broke man .......

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A broke nigga shouldnt even be lookin for a bish, he need to be lookin for some money

Nothing wrong with those sentiments, @Ms Southern. My first thought about them niggas gettin upset was "they probably broke". I hate seein a high quality chick (in terms of personality, morals, etc.) with some offbrand nigga that really is just runnin off the fumes of his "dreams". shyt sometimes the nigga be straight up BUM thats jus good at talkin shyt...

i give those chicks props for tryna stick it out though some of em end up gettin sucked into that life, get complacent, and never reach their potential. Not a good look
 
Ms Southern;4511730 said:
Shuffington;4511619 said:
I mean... thats a given.... its not really something that needs to be shouted to the crowds.

it could be misconstrued as a reflection of your own insecurity with money issues. Meaning your a little toooo preoccupied with someones monetary worth. I.E "another chick whos to overly concerned about everybody else's pockets"

In reality ... no one wants to be with someone who's "broke". We would all like to date super rich people.

I didn't shout it out lol

We were in convo talking about marriage. One of their other friends married some chick recently and no one liked her. I asked why and the convo went from there......

lmao.. i don't think you had a chance in that convo.......sound like you set yourself up for disaster with that one...

is the chick that no one likes by any chance only in the marriage for money..cuz if so....those words shoulda never came out....
 
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Perfect;4511741 said:
A broke nigga shouldnt even be lookin for a bish, he need to be lookin for some money

Nothing wrong with those sentiments, @Ms Southern. My first thought about them niggas gettin upset was "they probably broke". I hate seein a high quality chick (in terms of personality, morals, etc.) with some offbrand nigga that really is just runnin off the fumes of his "dreams". shyt sometimes the nigga be straight up BUM thats jus good at talkin shyt...

i give those chicks props for tryna stick it out though some of em end up gettin sucked into that life, get complacent, and never reach their potential. Not a good look

sound like some hater shit right there buddy...

i mean you did flat out say

"i hate"
 
What it seems like is, Ms.S should have catered to some fragile egos...while most statements made by men are blanket, for a woman to say such a thing is seen as derogatory, and insensitive. Interesting.

By not wanting to couple with a man that has no goals, ambition, or means, she is somehow seen as unworthy. On the other end of the spectrum, should a man say he doesn't want a woman with a high body count, or no discernible skills, its accepted. Only if she prefaced her comment, would her comment been ok.

Hmm.
 
ms.jones;4511783 said:
What it seems like is, Ms.S should have catered to some fragile egos...while most statements made by men are blanket, for a woman to say such a thing is seen as derogatory, and insensitive. Interesting.

By not wanting to couple with a man that has no goals, ambition, or means, she is somehow seen as unworthy. On the other end of the spectrum, should a man say he doesn't want a woman with a high body count, or no discernible skills, its accepted. Only if she prefaced her comment, would her comment been ok.

Hmm.
Broke niggas catching feelings, basically.
 
ms.jones;4511783 said:
What it seems like is, Ms.S should have catered to some fragile egos...while most statements made by men are blanket, for a woman to say such a thing is seen as derogatory, and insensitive. Interesting.

By not wanting to couple with a man that has no goals, ambition, or means, she is somehow seen as unworthy. On the other end of the spectrum, should a man say he doesn't want a woman with a high body count, or no discernible skills, its accepted. Only if she prefaced her comment, would her comment been ok.

Hmm.

REAL SHIT JONES..
 
ms.jones;4511657 said:
It is my belief that while during the dating phase, flaws and misconceptions should be uncovered. In the case of Ms. Southern, at any point during the dating phase that she notices the man she is with is still in financial disarray after a set amount of time, she has every right to walk.

Your love conquers all attitude does not work every time in even the most hospitable of situations. One can only rely on the kindness of family for so long, as well as maintain the patience. Most women want a man that can provide, protect, and preserve. A man with no ends, an excuse for why he doesn't have his finances together, and a pocket full of dreams don't cut it after a certain point. Now, if she misses out, hey, her loss.

This is 100% true...but at the same time I can't think of any man who wants to be solely thought of for his monetary contributions to his family...there's alot more that goes into that...and to break it down to make it appear as if money is how a man's worth is determined by the woman in his life, then it pretty much says to other men "I can be an asshole, treat her like shit, so long as I'm not broke she ain't going nowhere"
 
ms.jones;4511783 said:
What it seems like is, Ms.S should have catered to some fragile egos...while most statements made by men are blanket, for a woman to say such a thing is seen as derogatory, and insensitive. Interesting.

By not wanting to couple with a man that has no goals, ambition, or means, she is somehow seen as unworthy. On the other end of the spectrum, should a man say he doesn't want a woman with a high body count, or no discernible skills, its accepted. Only if she prefaced her comment, would her comment been ok.

Hmm.

naw jonsey you over doing it.... cuz if she had said the bold....verbatim......there woulda been no debate... cuz that sounds like the statement of someone who cares about a future together with a man....that's a no brainier...

every person in an ear shot woulda co-signed the bold, man or woman....

but the statement she made did not seem that enlightened...it came off as shallow and materialistic....

which is not a good look...

 
It's really not this serious. She said what is universally accepted, yet without prudence, and broke men got offended. That is all.

/thread
 
Haul Judos;4511744 said:
lmao.. i don't think you had a chance in that convo.......sound like you set yourself up for disaster with that one...

is the chick that no one likes by any chance only in the marriage for money..cuz if so....those words shoulda never came out....

They said she bitchy and won't let him out of the house

not sure if money is a factor

 
ms.jones;4511783 said:
What it seems like is, Ms.S should have catered to some fragile egos...while most statements made by men are blanket, for a woman to say such a thing is seen as derogatory, and insensitive. Interesting.

By not wanting to couple with a man that has no goals, ambition, or means, she is somehow seen as unworthy. On the other end of the spectrum, should a man say he doesn't want a woman with a high body count, or no discernible skills, its accepted. Only if she prefaced her comment, would her comment been ok.

Hmm.

Come on now. We all know that " I would never marry a broke man"

Is such a loaded statement though. When you make such a presumptuous comment (true or false) you cant be surprised by the backlash.

That was the main issue...."why so much back lash?"

 
Haul Judos;4511802 said:
ms.jones;4511783 said:
What it seems like is, Ms.S should have catered to some fragile egos...while most statements made by men are blanket, for a woman to say such a thing is seen as derogatory, and insensitive. Interesting.

By not wanting to couple with a man that has no goals, ambition, or means, she is somehow seen as unworthy. On the other end of the spectrum, should a man say he doesn't want a woman with a high body count, or no discernible skills, its accepted. Only if she prefaced her comment, would her comment been ok.

Hmm.

naw jonsey you over doing it.... cuz if she had said the bold....verbatim......there woulda been no debate... cuz that sounds like the statement of someone who cares about a future together with a man....that's a no brainier...

every person in an ear shot woulda co-signed the bold, man or woman....

but the statement she made did not seem that enlightened...it came off as shallow and materialistic....

which is not a good look...

AKA, the broke nigga. Just saying. No goals, no ambitions, no means. You are wanting her to preface her own comment, to appease who? Her statement was nothing more that a vocalized standard.
 
Sage Wonder;4511820 said:
It's really not this serious. She said what is universally accepted, yet without prudence, and broke men got offended. That is all.

/thread

the question was brought up because he saw it as a red flag that she might just be a gold digger... gold digger means there for the money alone... meaning dude's obviously not broke.....

so the cop out argument of broke men getting offended doesn't apply here.....

the offense was created from the friend thinking she was just after his boy's money
 
Perfect;4511741 said:
A broke nigga shouldnt even be lookin for a bish, he need to be lookin for some money

Nothing wrong with those sentiments, @Ms Southern. My first thought about them niggas gettin upset was "they probably broke". I hate seein a high quality chick (in terms of personality, morals, etc.) with some offbrand nigga that really is just runnin off the fumes of his "dreams". shyt sometimes the nigga be straight up BUM thats jus good at talkin shyt...

i give those chicks props for tryna stick it out though some of em end up gettin sucked into that life, get complacent, and never reach their potential. Not a good look

The first part of this statement is the difference between makin it and not for many a man. Every dude I know has heard that viewpoint (from me if nobody else) but the ones who followed are movin up and the ones that didnt, I have no words at this point. As far as the women being with losers, its just too many women for that to matter. That just keeps the ones unsuitable for me out of my way.
 
ms.jones;4511783 said:
What it seems like is, Ms.S should have catered to some fragile egos...while most statements made by men are blanket, for a woman to say such a thing is seen as derogatory, and insensitive. Interesting.

By not wanting to couple with a man that has no goals, ambition, or means, she is somehow seen as unworthy. On the other end of the spectrum, should a man say he doesn't want a woman with a high body count, or no discernible skills, its accepted. Only if she prefaced her comment, would her comment been ok.

Hmm.

Jonesy you speak truth through and through, but let's not act like when a man makes a statement like "I don't want an overweight woman" he's not attacked with a bunch of instant BMI/Health experts and how he shouldn't judge a woman's body because he doesn't understand how women's body's operate
 
ms.jones;4511841 said:
Haul Judos;4511802 said:
ms.jones;4511783 said:
What it seems like is, Ms.S should have catered to some fragile egos...while most statements made by men are blanket, for a woman to say such a thing is seen as derogatory, and insensitive. Interesting.

By not wanting to couple with a man that has no goals, ambition, or means, she is somehow seen as unworthy. On the other end of the spectrum, should a man say he doesn't want a woman with a high body count, or no discernible skills, its accepted. Only if she prefaced her comment, would her comment been ok.

Hmm.

naw jonsey you over doing it.... cuz if she had said the bold....verbatim......there woulda been no debate... cuz that sounds like the statement of someone who cares about a future together with a man....that's a no brainier...

every person in an ear shot woulda co-signed the bold, man or woman....

but the statement she made did not seem that enlightened...it came off as shallow and materialistic....

which is not a good look...

AKA, the broke nigga. Just saying. No goals, no ambitions, no means. You are wanting her to preface her own comment, to appease who? Her statement was nothing more that a vocalized standard.

they're two different statements though.....

miscommunication happens all the time....hence the entire purpose of the thread, she wanted to know was there anything wrong with the statement....

and it's easy to see how that could represent a shallow mindset....

 
blackrain;4511798 said:
ms.jones;4511657 said:
It is my belief that while during the dating phase, flaws and misconceptions should be uncovered. In the case of Ms. Southern, at any point during the dating phase that she notices the man she is with is still in financial disarray after a set amount of time, she has every right to walk.

Your love conquers all attitude does not work every time in even the most hospitable of situations. One can only rely on the kindness of family for so long, as well as maintain the patience. Most women want a man that can provide, protect, and preserve. A man with no ends, an excuse for why he doesn't have his finances together, and a pocket full of dreams don't cut it after a certain point. Now, if she misses out, hey, her loss.

This is 100% true...but at the same time I can't think of any man who wants to be solely thought of for his monetary contributions to his family...there's alot more that goes into that...and to break it down to make it appear as if money is how a man's worth is determined by the woman in his life, then it pretty much says to other men "I can be an asshole, treat her like shit, so long as I'm not broke she ain't going nowhere"

A man will know the exact kind of woman he has. He can tell a gold digger versus someone who can add to his riches. By Southern stating that she wouldn't marry a broke man, she is letting it be known that she wants a man that can provide. Just as if I were to say, I want my man to have a job. I want my man to have a car. Is that too much to ask?
 

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