I Love you Nasir but after ETHER........

[bankrupt baller]

YOu can criticize and give props. NObody ALWAYS wrong and ALWAYS right mane. That said, good thread.

NAS only won the PR battle and people have a fuzzy sense of history about that whole battle anyway cuz NAS didnt even win the damn battle. Sorry but a bunch of females calling in and saying they're voting for NAS Ether cuz JayZ "was disrespecting women" is wack.

Jay-Z Takeover was 100 % facts NAs Ether was like 20 % facts. Either way NAS won the PR battle Jay-Z won the war.

And I'd word it differently. Jay got SMARTER after Ether. Notice how he dont battle no more directly. At this stage he cant win even if he wins. If he wins SO WHAT you Jay-Z. Even a tie is a loss for him at this point.

explain what was 80% bullsh!t about ether?

 

[bankrupt baller]

Alicia Keys >>> Jigga on Empire State Of Mind

lol ..............

Dickrider... no hate, but he's excelled in it his whole career

cosign but not the word i was looking for lol

 

[Kwan Dai]

YOu can criticize and give props. NObody ALWAYS wrong and ALWAYS right mane. That said, good thread.

NAS only won the PR battle and people have a fuzzy sense of history about that whole battle anyway cuz NAS didnt even win the damn battle. Sorry but a bunch of females calling in and saying they're voting for NAS Ether cuz JayZ "was disrespecting women" is wack.

Jay-Z Takeover was 100 % facts NAs Ether was like 20 % facts. Either way NAS won the PR battle Jay-Z won the war.

And I'd word it differently. Jay got SMARTER after Ether. Notice how he dont battle no more directly. At this stage he cant win even if he wins. If he wins SO WHAT you Jay-Z. Even a tie is a loss for him at this point.

We'll just dismiss you saying Jayz won the actual battle as, that's your opinion.

 

[rip.dilla]

Alicia Keys >>> Jigga on Empire State Of Mind

Nothin but the truth...

And I'd word it differently. Jay got SMARTER after Ether. Notice how he dont battle no more directly. At this stage he cant win even if he wins. If he wins SO WHAT you Jay-Z. Even a tie is a loss for him at this point.

Well... he scurred... that shit make your soul burn slooowww

 

[DarcSkies777]

explain what was 80% bullsh!t about ether?

He spent the whole album wit corny ass lines, "dick suckin lips," "you look like a camel," "you disrespecting women," "Rockafella died of AIDS," "Is it damn Daddy or Dame Dummy...(HUH?)"

DOnt get me wrong the 20 % that was credible was damaging. "how much of BIG's shit gone come out your fat lips" "Ya man stabbed UN made u take the blame"....all good lines. I'm not saying the song was total bullshit. BUt lets be honest. People liked the beat and since it was JAy-Z people over state the importance. BUt unless you like 12 years old most of the disses in that song were juvenile.

 

[rip.dilla]

He spent the whole album wit corny ass lines, "dick suckin lips," "you look like a camel," "you disrespecting women," "Rockafella died of AIDS," "Is it damn Daddy or Dame Dummy...(HUH?)"

DOnt get me wrong the 20 % that was credible was damaging. "how much of BIG's shit gone come out your fat lips" "Ya man stabbed UN made u take the blame"....all good lines. I'm not saying the song was total bullshit. BUt lets be honest. People liked the beat and since it was JAy-Z people over state the importance. BUt unless you like 12 years old most of the disses in that song were juvenile.

Well... if 'Ether' was corny and juvenile... why did big homie resort to desperation and release that flop of a diss called 'Supaugly'?...

 

[Kwan Dai]

He spent the whole album wit corny ass lines, "dick suckin lips," "you look like a camel," "you disrespecting women," "Rockafella died of AIDS," "Is it damn Daddy or Dame Dummy...(HUH?)"

DOnt get me wrong the 20 % that was credible was damaging. I'm not saying the song was total bullshit. BUt lets be honest. People liked the beat and since it was JAy-Z people over state the importance. BUt unless you like 12 years old most of the disses in that song were juvenile.

I am not overstanding how you view Jayz disses as that much more mature. It was a battle. People had their opinions. Yours is, Jayz won. Other say he lost. Staying on topic neither artist skipped a Beat. Nas kept doing what he had been doing as, did Jayz. What is apparent from the battle is, both artists are polar opposites and have totally different personal and musical approaches.

 

[JokerzWyld]

YOu can criticize and give props. NObody ALWAYS wrong and ALWAYS right mane. That said, good thread.

NAS only won the PR battle and people have a fuzzy sense of history about that whole battle anyway cuz NAS didnt even win the damn battle. Sorry but a bunch of females calling in and saying they're voting for NAS Ether cuz JayZ "was disrespecting women" is wack.

Jay-Z Takeover was 100 % facts NAs Ether was like 20 % facts. Either way NAS won the PR battle Jay-Z won the war.

And I'd word it differently. Jay got SMARTER after Ether. Notice how he dont battle no more directly. At this stage he cant win even if he wins. If he wins SO WHAT you Jay-Z. Even a tie is a loss for him at this point.

Takeover was 100% facts??? I didn't know that

 

[Neva_Change]

That whole battle was overhyped anyway.

Jada + Beans beef >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the never-ending argument of takeover vs ether.

 

[bankrupt baller]

Alicia Keys >>> Jigga on Empire State Of Mind

He spent the whole album wit corny ass lines, "dick suckin lips," "you look like a camel," "you disrespecting women," "Rockafella died of AIDS," "Is it damn Daddy or Dame Dummy...(HUH?)"

DOnt get me wrong the 20 % that was credible was damaging. "how much of BIG's shit gone come out your fat lips" "Ya man stabbed UN made u take the blame"....all good lines. I'm not saying the song was total bullshit. BUt lets be honest. People liked the beat and since it was JAy-Z people over state the importance. BUt unless you like 12 years old most of the disses in that song were juvenile.

everything is fact besides dude dying of aids.......he has big lips,does look like a camel,and disrespects women(but who doesnt)....still all fact

 

[rip.dilla]

Takeover was 100% facts??? I didn't know that

LOL at Jigg resorting to his "men lie... numbers don't" mantra on 'Takeover'... and calling out record sales and charts ... like I give a lousy fuck

 

[JokerzWyld]

According to what I've heard the rocafella they were talking about was this street nigga from Brooklyn not John D. I couldn't verify that as a fact though.

I think y'all should go read the debate thread about this issue. Jrod and I broke it down very nicely I would think.

I thought Cham locked the debate thread.

 

[DarkRaiden]

YOu can criticize and give props. NObody ALWAYS wrong and ALWAYS right mane. That said, good thread.

NAS only won the PR battle and people have a fuzzy sense of history about that whole battle anyway cuz NAS didnt even win the damn battle. Sorry but a bunch of females calling in and saying they're voting for NAS Ether cuz JayZ "was disrespecting women" is wack.

Jay-Z Takeover was 100 % facts NAs Ether was like 20 % facts. Either way NAS won the PR battle Jay-Z won the war.

And I'd word it differently. Jay got SMARTER after Ether. Notice how he dont battle no more directly. At this stage he cant win even if he wins. If he wins SO WHAT you Jay-Z. Even a tie is a loss for him at this point.

How was Takeover 100% facts? It was pure opinion and mostly false as he said only Illmatic and Stillmatic were hot, when It Was Wriiten is arguably Nas' greatest album. Jay was just trying to be funny, Nas was 100% right and was damaging. Nas won, it's fact, Jay knows it as does all of the hip hop community.

He spent the whole album wit corny ass lines, "dick suckin lips," "you look like a camel," "you disrespecting women," "Rockafella died of AIDS," "Is it damn Daddy or Dame Dummy...(HUH?)"

DOnt get me wrong the 20 % that was credible was damaging. "how much of BIG's shit gone come out your fat lips" "Ya man stabbed UN made u take the blame"....all good lines. I'm not saying the song was total bullshit. BUt lets be honest. People liked the beat and since it was JAy-Z people over state the importance. BUt unless you like 12 years old most of the disses in that song were juvenile.

Umm...Jay DOES look like a camel, and Rockefeller DID die of aids, he was pointing out what might be subliminal clues and in turn made fun of Jay's mans as he kept changing his aliases. And Jay does suck dick, figuratively, he goes with the mainstream and co-signs anyone he think will make him money. Drake, Em, Weezy, Jeezy, Ross, etc.

Jay lost, Nas won. Hell, Jay lost at life, he has a chick who's fine but from reports sleeps in different hotel rooms, he's hated and disrespected by most real rappers(mos def, Nas, Common, Talib Kweli, Pac when he was alive, etc.) And he's changed to a pop artist. Nas has stayed real, is respected by all hip hop heads, is a legend, is hip hop, and still has money (reportedly ovr 100 million dollars). Nas won at life and in the battle.

 

[JokerzWyld]

It's been unlocked, for some reason Hrap wanted to start a debate of his own about Jay winning. Then he made two threads pro Jay-Z right after it was closed.

Who knew calling him a faggot would hurt his feelings so much.

Lol WTF is wrong with your guys. Y'all some funny fucks n/h Though lol

 

[SCRATCHOFF]

Side Question: JayZ marrying Beyonce did what???

I've always been curious of this. Is it because he is awkward looking so he gave hope for average looking guys to get insanely beautiful looking women?

Him marrying Beyonce always comes into to play when talking about his music and business sense.

 

[hrap-120]

'Ye & Ri >>> Jigg on 'Run This Town'...

Yes indeed

Affions' version was hotter!!

Believe dat

YOu can criticize and give props. NObody ALWAYS wrong and ALWAYS right mane. That said, good thread.

NAS only won the PR battle and people have a fuzzy sense of history about that whole battle anyway cuz NAS didnt even win the damn battle. Sorry but a bunch of females calling in and saying they're voting for NAS Ether cuz JayZ "was disrespecting women" is wack.

Jay-Z Takeover was 100 % facts NAs Ether was like 20 % facts. Either way NAS won the PR battle Jay-Z won the war.

And I'd word it differently. Jay got SMARTER after Ether. Notice how he dont battle no more directly. At this stage he cant win even if he wins. If he wins SO WHAT you Jay-Z. Even a tie is a loss for him at this point.

I appreciate that, people act like you cant be a fan & a critic at the same time...a fan that cant be critical is called a STAN.

Im stickin' to my damn story, JayZ got stronger and more powerful after Ether...I mean come-on he SIGNED Nas to Def Jam when Nas had been calling Def Jam "the evil empire" 6 months earlier.

Jigga-man upgraded to a bad bad bad bitch with Beyonce.
Jigga-man shook the dancing buffoon Dame & the hot-ghetto-mess that came with him
Jigga-man put on his coporate business-man and became a fuckin mogul

Ether woke JayZ up and turned him into a monster, he burned his throw-back jersey and put on a 10,000 Armani double-breasted and inked a Roc Nation deal.

Are rappers supposed to continue getting pimped?? Everybody complains about "evil white men in suits control hipHop"...well JayZ broke those slave-chains and he is the MASTER.

The best to ever balance art & business...Jay to the muthafuckin Z!!

 

[rip.dilla]

Umm...Jay DOES look like a camel, and Rockefeller DID die of aids, he was pointing out what might be subliminal clues and in turn made fun of Jay's mans as he kept changing his aliases. And Jay does suck dick, figuratively, he goes with the mainstream and co-signs anyone he think will make him money. Drake, Em, Weezy, Jeezy, Ross, etc.

Jay lost, Nas won. Hell, Jay lost at life, he has a chick who's fine but from reports sleeps in different hotel rooms, he's hated and disrespected by most real rappers(mos def, Nas, Common, Talib Kweli, Pac when he was alive, etc.) And he's changed to a pop artist. Nas has stayed real, is respected by all hip hop heads, is a legend, is hip hop, and still has money (reportedly ovr 100 million dollars). Nas won at life and in the battle.

One of the realest shit... I've had to quote

 

[SCRATCHOFF]

Repost because I really want to know the answer

Side Question: JayZ marrying Beyonce did what???

I've always been curious of this. Is it because he is awkward looking so he gave hope for average looking guys to get insanely beautiful looking women?

Him marrying Beyonce always comes into to play when talking about his music and business sense.

 

[bankrupt baller]

Alicia Keys >>> Jigga on Empire State Of Mind

How was Takeover 100% facts? It was pure opinion and mostly false as he said only Illmatic and Stillmatic were hot, when It Was Wriiten is arguably Nas' greatest album. Jay was just trying to be funny, Nas was 100% right and was damaging. Nas won, it's fact, Jay knows it as does all of the hip hop community.

Umm...Jay DOES look like a camel, and Rockefeller DID die of aids, he was pointing out what might be subliminal clues and in turn made fun of Jay's mans as he kept changing his aliases. And Jay does suck dick, figuratively, he goes with the mainstream and co-signs anyone he think will make him money. Drake, Em, Weezy, Jeezy, Ross, etc.

Jay lost, Nas won. Hell, Jay lost at life, he has a chick who's fine but from reports sleeps in different hotel rooms, he's hated and disrespected by most real rappers(mos def, Nas, Common, Talib Kweli, Pac when he was alive, etc.) And he's changed to a pop artist. Nas has stayed real, is respected by all hip hop heads, is a legend, is hip hop, and still has money (reportedly ovr 100 million dollars). Nas won at life and in the battle.

cosign....but sadly the ic will say "but jay has more money"....so sad

 

[SCRATCHOFF]

Marrying Beyonce really didn't do anything. Being in a relationship is what did everything, the photo ops, the press, the publicity. All of that translates into free marketing, it made him even more recognizable and a public figure not just a hip hop figure. This is what gave Jay the platform to be a megastar in terms of A-List Hollywood celebrities.

and in turn gave Beyonce a lil edge as well... hmmmm .. I think they are real couple but you can't help but see how they BOTH were able to help each others' career as well... Cause Poppa Knowles was guarding that cooch with an electric fence but was suddenly really cool about the Jay thing