I just watched Pinocchio for 1st time in about 20yrs and WOW... thats some dark shit
Lou Cypher
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dallas' 4 eva;9121518 said:
Focal Point
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Cain;9119839 said:
Fuck...
dalyricalbandit
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them classic Disney movies will have u in your feelings
Breezy_Kilroy
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CeLLaR-DooR;9121980 said:
Fixed
Neophyte Wolfgang
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Hercules was terrible don't compare that to Lion King. Hunchback was never interesting to me as a kid so I never watched it, But I had Pinocchio on repeat when I was a youngster it was my favorite Disney movie.....even better than the Lion King and Aladdin and 101 Dalmatians. Something about it always drew me in. Classic movie, now I'm about to read the original source material to see how dark it originally was
Revolver Ocelot
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I know I ain't the only one that had the VHS of all the songs from the Disney movies.
I watched that shit like 3-4 times a week.
I watched that shit like 3-4 times a week.
TheNightKing
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There's a podcast called Myths and Legends that goes into the actual stories behind Disney movies and other fairy tales and stories. For instance, the beast in Beauty and the Beast had scales and an elephant trunk. He also couldn't be nice to the girl so he was an asshole to her then at the end of every night asked her to marry him anyway. He also stalked her at night and visited her as his real self in her dreams.
He pulls the Pocahontas story from actual letters from John Smith and the oral history of the Native Americans involved.
He pulls the Pocahontas story from actual letters from John Smith and the oral history of the Native Americans involved.
TheGOAT;9125395 said:
1. Both start at the birth of main characters
2. Both main character lose their parents shortly after by way of the villian. (The Sharptooth & Scar)
3. Littlefoot & Simba both blame/pity themselves for the death of their parents. But are given lectures by wise older characters (Rooter = Rafiki) to get themback on track... LBT even mentions the whole "Circle of Life" theme lion king centers on
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4. Littlefoot befriends Ducky & Spike = Timone & Pumba. (1 is a loud mouth & the other is a glutton) P-Tree = Zazu (both scaredy-cat flying friends) Cera = Nala (strong female opposites who after arguments seperate from main characters and are later reunited in critical time of film)
5. Each movie has a scene where the characters see there parents but it only turns out to be theirown reflection... Then later in the movie they actually see their parents in the clouds and speak to them.
Land Before Time is Lion King without songs and love story.
Will Munny
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Peter Pan always seemed dark to me. He basically kid naps at risk kids, then forces them to fight against the Pirates for him.
illestni99ainne
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Focal Point;9124241 said:
The one about Sleeping Beauty is pretty fucked up too
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index...sleep-and-cant-wake-her-so-rapes-her-instead/
Today I found out Sleeping Beauty is based on a story where a married king finds a girl asleep and can’t wake her, so rapes her instead.
The story is called The Sun, the Moon, and Talia, written, or at the least collected and composed, by the Italian poet Giambattista Basile. It was published in 1634 in his “Pentamerone” collection of fairy tales, which also includes the first known version of Cinderella and Rapunzel, and includes a version of Puss in Boots.
Basile was more or less the “Brothers Grimm” of his time. In fact, Wilhem Grimm said of Basile’s work,
This collection [Basile’s Pentamerone] was for a long time the best and richest that had been found by any nation. Not only were the traditions at that time more complete in themselves, but the author had a special talent for collecting them, and besides that an intimate knowledge of the dialect. The stories are told with hardly any break, and the tone, at least in the Neapolitan tales, is perfectly caught…
While there are several variants of The Sun, Moon, and Talia told since the first documented instance, the basic story is of a baby girl named Talia, born to a powerful ruler. The wise men of the kingdom prophesy that the girl will meet her death from a flax splinter. Rather than just instruct his daughter never to go near flax or wear any clothes made of it or it would mean her death, as would have been the sensible thing to do, the ruler commands that all flax and hemp in his palace be removed and apparently doesn’t mention it to her.
When the girl is older, she observes an old woman outside of her window spinning flax on a spindle, something Talia has never seen before. She then goes down and convinces the woman to allow her to stretch the flax, at which point a splinter from it gets lodged under her fingernail and she seems to die.
Rather than bury Talia, her father has her adorned in her most expensive, beautiful outfit, and leaves her in one of his palaces in the woods, which is then closed up and abandoned.
On a hunting trip, a king stumbles on this estate and attempts to get in to retrieve his falcon that had flown inside. After being unable to get anyone to answer the door, he scales the wall and climbs in through the window his falcon flew in at.
Up to this point, it could have been the Disney version of the story. Here’s where it gets weird. Upon entering the estate, the king wanders around, finding the house empty except for a beautiful young woman who despite his best efforts, he couldn’t wake. So
being on fire with love, he carried her to a couch and, having gathered the fruits of love, left her lying there. Then he returned to his own kingdom and for a long time entirely forgot the affair.”
Talia became pregnant and the babies were born and cared for, as was Talia, by kindly fairies. (Where were they when she needed protected from being raped? ;-)) The fairies would put the babies up to Talia’s breasts to feed, except one time, one of the babies instead sucked on Talia’s finger with the splinter in it and sucked it out, at which point she woke up.
Quite a while later, the king remembered the girl and decided to go back to the house to see her again (classy). This time, though, he found her awake (awkward) and with twin babies she named “Sun” and “Moon”, as their origin was just as mysterious to her as the origin of the Sun and the Moon.
After the king explained to her how she’d gotten pregnant, rather than be upset with him and call the local law enforcement, she instead decided she loved him (he was no doubt, dreamy) and he decided he loved her too. And they lived happily ever after… except, you know, he was already married and his wife had become suspicious of where he’d gone because when he came back, he started saying Talia’s and the children’s names in his sleep.
The queen then forced the king’s secretary to tell her everything or she’d have him killed. After finding out about Talia and the children, she then sent for the kids in the name of the king in order that she might have the cook kill them and feed them to the king. While the king is eating, she keeps telling him, “You are eating what is your own.” To which he replies, “I know very well I am eating what is my own, because you brought nothing with you into this house!”
Next, the queen sent for Talia in the name of the king and confronts Talia saying, “Are you the whore who has been enjoying my husband? Get ready to be welcomed in hell, because you will soon be going there.” She then prepared a fire in the courtyard to burn Talia in, despite Talia vehemently explaining that she had no part in the king having taken advantage of her while she was unconscious.
To stall for time, Talia asked if she can strip naked before being thrown into the fire. While slowly stripping, she continually screamed, at which point the king came bursting in, finds out what happened and has his wife and secretary killed instead, the latter of which apparently was destined to die whether he’d told the queen anything or not.
The king also tried to have the cook killed, but finds out the cook had actually spared his children and had hidden them when the queen asked him to cook them up. Thus, he was spared and given a large reward.
So now, with the queen finally out of the way, the king is free to marry his raped mistress and now they really do live happily ever after, with the last line of the story being (translated):
Lucky people, so ’tis said,
Are blessed by Fortune whilst in bed.
Revolver Ocelot
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TheGOAT;9125919 said:TheGOAT;9125395 said:
1. Both start at the birth of main characters
2. Both main character lose their parents shortly after by way of the villian. (The Sharptooth & Scar)
3. Littlefoot & Simba both blame/pity themselves for the death of their parents. But are given lectures by wise older characters (Rooter = Rafiki) to get themback on track... LBT even mentions the whole "Circle of Life" theme lion king centers on
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4. Littlefoot befriends Ducky & Spike = Timone & Pumba. (1 is a loud mouth & the other is a glutton) P-Tree = Zazu (both scaredy-cat flying friends) Cera = Nala (strong female opposites who after arguments seperate from main characters and are later reunited in critical time of film)
5. Each movie has a scene where the characters see there parents but it only turns out to be theirown reflection... Then later in the movie they actually see their parents in the clouds and speak to them.
Land Before Time is Lion King without songs and love story.
Lion King did it better tho......
Revolver Ocelot;9126281 said:TheGOAT;9125919 said:TheGOAT;9125395 said:
1. Both start at the birth of main characters
2. Both main character lose their parents shortly after by way of the villian. (The Sharptooth & Scar)
3. Littlefoot & Simba both blame/pity themselves for the death of their parents. But are given lectures by wise older characters (Rooter = Rafiki) to get themback on track... LBT even mentions the whole "Circle of Life" theme lion king centers on
=desktop
4. Littlefoot befriends Ducky & Spike = Timone & Pumba. (1 is a loud mouth & the other is a glutton) P-Tree = Zazu (both scaredy-cat flying friends) Cera = Nala (strong female opposites who after arguments seperate from main characters and are later reunited in critical time of film)
5. Each movie has a scene where the characters see there parents but it only turns out to be theirown reflection... Then later in the movie they actually see their parents in the clouds and speak to them.
Land Before Time is Lion King without songs and love story.
Lion King did it better tho......
I prefer LBT
They did it without the cheesy sing-a-longs. It was just a straight movie.
Lion King still classic tho. But for sure was bitin
MrCrookedLetter
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TheGOAT;9126293 said:Revolver Ocelot;9126281 said:TheGOAT;9125919 said:TheGOAT;9125395 said:
1. Both start at the birth of main characters
2. Both main character lose their parents shortly after by way of the villian. (The Sharptooth & Scar)
3. Littlefoot & Simba both blame/pity themselves for the death of their parents. But are given lectures by wise older characters (Rooter = Rafiki) to get themback on track... LBT even mentions the whole "Circle of Life" theme lion king centers on
=desktop
4. Littlefoot befriends Ducky & Spike = Timone & Pumba. (1 is a loud mouth & the other is a glutton) P-Tree = Zazu (both scaredy-cat flying friends) Cera = Nala (strong female opposites who after arguments seperate from main characters and are later reunited in critical time of film)
5. Each movie has a scene where the characters see there parents but it only turns out to be theirown reflection... Then later in the movie they actually see their parents in the clouds and speak to them.
Land Before Time is Lion King without songs and love story.
Lion King did it better tho......
I prefer LBT
They did it without the cheesy sing-a-longs. It was just a straight movie.
Lion King still classic tho. But for sure was bitin
LBT fucked up by having like 13 damn sequels where all they did was sing for no reason
MrCrookedLetter;9127788 said:TheGOAT;9126293 said:Revolver Ocelot;9126281 said:TheGOAT;9125919 said:TheGOAT;9125395 said:
1. Both start at the birth of main characters
2. Both main character lose their parents shortly after by way of the villian. (The Sharptooth & Scar)
3. Littlefoot & Simba both blame/pity themselves for the death of their parents. But are given lectures by wise older characters (Rooter = Rafiki) to get themback on track... LBT even mentions the whole "Circle of Life" theme lion king centers on
=desktop
4. Littlefoot befriends Ducky & Spike = Timone & Pumba. (1 is a loud mouth & the other is a glutton) P-Tree = Zazu (both scaredy-cat flying friends) Cera = Nala (strong female opposites who after arguments seperate from main characters and are later reunited in critical time of film)
5. Each movie has a scene where the characters see there parents but it only turns out to be theirown reflection... Then later in the movie they actually see their parents in the clouds and speak to them.
Land Before Time is Lion King without songs and love story.
Lion King did it better tho......
I prefer LBT
They did it without the cheesy sing-a-longs. It was just a straight movie.
Lion King still classic tho. But for sure was bitin
LBT fucked up by having like 13 damn sequels where all they did was sing for no reason
True
They not even made by the same people.
The OG was Steven Speilberg & George Lucas