I feel sorry for all you "you don't need college" niggas in the next decade or so.

[evoljeanyes]

Nigga Barack Obama was paying minimum debt payments on his student loans until he got that book check 3 years ago.

 

[FucktheIC]

Y'all niggas wanna cite the few examples. Let's post them. Here's the list of college drop out billionaires in the entire world.

Bill Gates [5] - US

Mark Zuckerberg [6] - US

Lawrence Ellison [7] - US

Eike Batista [8] - Brazil

Michael Dell [9] - US

Marc Rich [10] - US

Ty Warner [11] - US

Gautam Adani [12] - India

Micky Jagtiani [13] - India

Shahid Balwa [14] - India

Subhash Chandra [15] - India

Vinod Goenka [16] - India

PNC Menon [17][18] - India

Roman Abramovich [19] - Russia

Sheldon Adelson [20] - US

Amancio Ortega [21] - Spain

Kirk Kerkorian [22] - US

Donald Newhouse [23] - US

François Pinault [24] - France

Jack Taylor [25] - US

Joaquín Guzmán Loera [26] (Mexican drug lord) - Mexico

David Geffen [27] - US

David Murdock [28] - US

Ted Turner [29] - US

Henry Fok [30] - Hong Kong

Ralph Lauren [31] - US

Mohammed Al Amoudi [32] - Saudi Arabia

Stanley Ho [33] - Hong Kong

Dustin Moskovitz - US

Richard Li - Hong Kong

Just so you know.....there are roughly 1200 billionaires in the world. That list comes out to about 4%. 4% of the world's billionaires are college drop outs.

I'm not knocking anyone for bucking trends. Get it how you live. But you're playing with house money, and you COULD win the longshot, but probably not. All this shit about "entrepreneur, worker bee" is great. Don't get me wrong. I love the entrepreneurial spirit.

I'm starting to realize that we're probably looking at this from two different perspectives.

Okay, I work in Government Affairs/Public Policy w/e you wanna call it. As far as government policy goes, you can't just say "tell kids to become entrepreneurs." It's infeasible. It's not a prudent way of attacking the problem.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

i wonder how many of them have rich parents and/ or got their money legally

 

[CapitalB]

<--- doesnt have a college degree
<--- is about to go eat and wont be surprised if someone wit a degree is serving the table..
<--- is obviously losin for not havin a degree

 

[sniperk]

There is a healthy debate going on in this thread... props to everyone.

I have seen both sides of the situation. I know people who are in their late 20s/ early 30s who are "professional students". They live at home and sponge off their parents and/or are living with 5 roomates and a zillion dollars in debt through student loans. They are always 6 months to a year from coming up with the final idea in their thesis or business model that will make them millionaires and world-changers when they leave university.

But, on the flipside, I know people who hustled straight out of high school and are always looking for the "come-up" bouncing from one thing to the next who could have combined their "street smarts" with a little traditional education and got a lot further ahead. Sure those house parties made you money but you didn't think the cops were going to eventually shut you down for having improper permits and no liquor license? Sure that clothing business you were running was starting to pop off but when you needed extra capital and the traditional banks turned you down, you didn't think the "gentlemen" you borrowed money off of weren't going to want more than just their money back for helping you out?

Both traditional university degrees AND the school of hard knocks can be combined to make whatever you do in the working world even more successful.

Education comes in many forms...

 

[FucktheIC]

There is a healthy debate going on in this thread... props to everyone.

I have seen both sides of the situation. I know people who are in their late 20s/ early 30s who are "professional students". They live at home and sponge off their parents and/or are living with 5 roomates and a zillion dollars in debt through student loans. They are always 6 months to a year from coming up with the final idea in their thesis or business model that will make them millionaires and world-changers when they leave university.

But, on the flipside, I know people who hustled straight out of high school and are always looking for the "come-up" bouncing from one thing to the next who could have combined their "street smarts" with a little traditional education and got a lot further ahead. Sure those house parties made you money but you didn't think the cops were going to eventually shut you down for having improper permits and no liquor license? Sure that clothing business you were running was starting to pop off but when you needed extra capital and the traditional banks turned you down, you didn't think the "gentlemen" you borrowed money off of weren't going to want more than just their money back for helping you out?

Both traditional university degrees AND the school of hard knocks can be combined to make whatever you do in the working world even more successful.

Education comes in many forms...

Very true.

There is no emotion tied to what I'm saying. This isn't a value judgment. It's simply a reflection of what I've read over the last couple months. It's not saying you'll fail without college, just that the odds are against you. and not saying you'll succeed with a degree, just that the odds are ever in your favor.

 

[CapitalB]

odds are agaist a person period..

a kid has jus as good a chance in climbin the ranks of a Drug organization as he foes a corporate one..

im jus sayin..

 

[evoljeanyes]

The truth is...I came off salty...worker bee is a harsh term...disrespectful to those who grinding diligently.

Here is the problem...you can't call it dumb if people decide not to go to school. Going to a dinky Dink college gets you nothing. There are certain fields that its mandatory. But right now...we need entrepreneurs to create jobs and come up with ideas, unique ideas for new fields to be established.

 

[evoljeanyes]

@fucktheic a large percentage of American billionaires are on the list though.

 

[evoljeanyes]

I was saying this a few years ago on the IC. Yeah as the economy gets back up the standards are gonna go up & it's gonna be important but IMO not necessary for success in life. For it's not the only road to glory.

However,a degree isn't necessary to win, the object of the game is to educate yourself, I find that the people who look down on school just don't want to do the work of learning. Cuz as much as they'll talk down on it, the same cats would dread opening a book to learn what they gotta know beforehand. Guess they figure they know everything already SMH.

Sure school may not be for everyone but if you're gonna make the conscious decision to make it in life w/o a degree you'd better be very passionate about what you want to do and eager to work & learn about your interest in some way or shape. I never look down on no man who's just trying to make some money to support his family, whatever you gotta do to prosper in this so called land of milk & honey.....

Remember, whether it's a degree or trade what's important to note is what separates the rich from the poor is EDUCATION. People will take chances on the guy with no degree if he knows his shit & has experience but having a degree may make things easier for you.

I agree and disagree tho

cause who says you need a professor when you can pick up a book yourself?

my beef with college is the inflated tuition and how colleges are cool with churning out marginally educated grads with ridiculous amounts of debt

meanwhile taxpayers are not getting a return on their money when corporations still choose which exclusive colleges to get their new workers from

taxpayers pay the cost, students waste years and end up in debt, some professor gets a salary, and a corporation gets an educated worker for free to make the corporation more money............I don't see how people thinks this shit is a good deal

That's the thing - you don't, but people have been drilled to only accept that because there's too many losses and too few people who did it w/o one to believe it's possible to do it w/o a degree. Unfortunately most people won't unless they have a reason to or are genuinely passionate to.

And King, an education does help folks and does make things go round. It may not immediately help things right away in the short term but over time the returns for society and the economy from an education coincide.

Funny how people with a degree will work very hard just so they can get back into the black by paying off all that debt and people without one will work very hard just to make even more money that they might be getting if they had that masters. Not really relevant to my post but it's just an interesting observation. That should tell folks that there ain't one method better than the other - however it may serve you better to have both the street and book smarts.

@soon great post brother! Respect

 

[FucktheIC]

@fucktheic a large percentage of American billionaires are on the list though.

No, a large percentage of the list is American.

But there are over 400 American billionaires. So the numbers still don't support what's being said.

 

[evoljeanyes]

@sion ^^^^^

 

[blakfyahking]

That's the thing - you don't, but people have been drilled to only accept that because there's too many losses and too few people who did it w/o one to believe it's possible to do it w/o a degree. Unfortunately most people won't unless they have a reason to or are genuinely passionate to.

And King, an education does help folks and does make things go round. It may not immediately help things right away in the short term but over time the returns for society and the economy from an education coincide.

Funny how people with a degree will work very hard just so they can get back into the black by paying off all that debt and people without one will work very hard just to make even more money that they might be getting if they had that masters. Not really relevant to my post but it's just an interesting observation. That should tell folks that there ain't one method better than the other - however it may serve you better to have both the street and book smarts.

I'm not knocking a college degree at all.......cause IMO they are useful IF you know what they are really for

I would always advocate for someone to get more education.......but the problem is the current system is unsustainable and only serves to benefit corporations in the end

the whole system is set up to create a herd of niggaz to work for some organization at the expense of my tax dollars

now I got an issue with that

 

[evoljeanyes]

That's the thing - you don't, but people have been drilled to only accept that because there's too many losses and too few people who did it w/o one to believe it's possible to do it w/o a degree. Unfortunately most people won't unless they have a reason to or are genuinely passionate to.

And King, an education does help folks and does make things go round. It may not immediately help things right away in the short term but over time the returns for society and the economy from an education coincide.

Funny how people with a degree will work very hard just so they can get back into the black by paying off all that debt and people without one will work very hard just to make even more money that they might be getting if they had that masters. Not really relevant to my post but it's just an interesting observation. That should tell folks that there ain't one method better than the other - however it may serve you better to have both the street and book smarts.

I'm not knocking a college degree at all.......cause IMO they are useful IF you know what they are really for

I would always advocate for someone to get more education.......but the problem is the current system is unsustainable and only serves to benefit corporations in the end

the whole system is set up to create a herd of niggaz to work for some organization at the expense of my tax dollars

now I got an issue with that

Some of these people with degrees need to create there own shit though. They can't all wait in line for jP Morgan investment jobs, and law firms to call. Create your own shit. We, young men, black, white, Latin, Asian, Persian, Indian, whatever, need to get together and create universal companies. The fact that we're all depending on someone else for jobs is our own fault. I swear on everything I will fly to a sit down with like minded people in different fields to create something amazing. But people are afraid of it. I have tried to bring people in on my personal thoughts and they always want to come back when money is made.

college gives you a starting point. It doesn't create limitations. That's people being weak minded

 

[freshb651]

@evoljeanyes,you said that you write novels have you had anything published ?

 

[evoljeanyes]

@freshb651 my first novel is coming will be releasing around Christmas...hard and paper..amazon and books a million will carry

 

[blakfyahking]

Some of these people with degrees need to create there own shit though. They can't all wait in line for jP Morgan investment jobs, and law firms to call. Create your own shit. We, young men, black, white, Latin, Asian, Persian, Indian, whatever, need to get together and create universal companies. The fact that we're all depending on someone else for jobs is our own fault. I swear on everything I will fly to a sit down with like minded people in different fields to create something amazing. But people are afraid of it. I have tried to bring people in on my personal thoughts and they always want to come back when money is made.

college gives you a starting point. It doesn't create limitations. That's people being weak minded

but the bolded is hypocritical when we constantly indoctrinating mofos to think they always need a college degree

especially when most colleges ain't teaching mofos shit that is worth the 1000s of dollars the student is in debt for

and most colleges teaching students how to fall in line anyways to reach for that corporate job

you can't be pro-entrepreneur and pro-college these days when the ROI for a college degree is questionable is fuck

what type of business owner will you be if you think taking on 40K of college debt to possibly qualify for a 35K salary job is a good idea?

LMAO @ the benefits of being an educated debt-slave......what benefit is that really bringing to society?

 

[freshb651]

how did you get it published ?,I'm curious because i have a couple book ideas and i need to now how to get them

published. @evoljeanyes,also link me to your book when it drops.

 

[blackrain]

I feel sorry for niggas that think having a degree>>>>>>>>>>>entrepreneur.

Workin for yourself is better than workin for anyone else.

Workin for someone outside of a union in a employ at will state is fuckin risky.

Goin to a trade school and being certified in Electrician, HVAC, Plumbing, Carpentry

guarantees you will either be employed or can go into business for yourself.

Buildings are going to stay being constructed people are going to always need repairs

in their homes.

Unless you are going to university for the sciences you are foolin and bitin hard on the hustle.

t/s whole thread premise is just fool of smart dumb nigga logic.

You do realize that majority of people running the most successful businesses and the people they hire to work for them have degrees right? Those same union laws are created and enforced by people with degrees. Going into business for yourself isn't as easy at it sounds, and it's not something everyone can do and do well. If so, everyone would do it

 

[evoljeanyes]

Some of these people with degrees need to create there own shit though. They can't all wait in line for jP Morgan investment jobs, and law firms to call. Create your own shit. We, young men, black, white, Latin, Asian, Persian, Indian, whatever, need to get together and create universal companies. The fact that we're all depending on someone else for jobs is our own fault. I swear on everything I will fly to a sit down with like minded people in different fields to create something amazing. But people are afraid of it. I have tried to bring people in on my personal thoughts and they always want to come back when money is made.

college gives you a starting point. It doesn't create limitations. That's people being weak minded

but the bolded is hypocritical when we constantly indoctrinating mofos to think they always need a college degree

especially when most colleges ain't teaching mofos shit that is worth the 1000s of dollars the student is in debt for

and most colleges teaching students how to fall in line anyways to reach for that corporate job

you can't be pro-entrepreneur and pro-college these days when the ROI for a college degree is questionable is fuck

what type of business owner will you be if you think taking on 40K of college debt to possibly qualify for a 35K salary job is a good idea?

LMAO @ the benefits of being an educated debt-slave......what benefit is that really bringing to society?

I'm not a fan of college. My girl dropped out too and she is getting dough on her self made business and non profit.

College gives you direction. Some people need that. I knew at 8 I was gonna be in the NFL or a writer. Everyone doesn't have that. They need more schooling to decide.

If you don't need college you don't care what someone is feeding the masses. Going and gaining knowledge and connections in your field is not always bad. Not going and funding your own idea is rewarding.

The debt of college is the same or worse then the grind of overcoming your lack of a degree.