"I Fear I May Have Integrated My People Into a Burning House" - Martin Luther King Jr.

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Ajackson17;8536674 said:
kingblaze84;8536599 said:
Black_Thunder;8469798 said:
Fuck a glad handing turn the other cheek for whitey to slap me again ass martin luther king

That nigga wasnt shit but a puppet with a white man hand up his ass, what other race of people in the whole damn world have been encouraged to get slapped and turn the other fucking cheek?

He went out like a ho, fighting for integration into a poisonous and cutthroat system designed to destroy a black man and rape his culture, which in 2015 is exactly what we have.

It's pretty harsh to say he went out like a hoe, some Black people work in White neighborhoods, so laws that helped make the lives of Black Americans a little easier shouldn't be trashed like that in my opinion. MLK Jr thought about the Blacks who worked in White neighborhoods, where there was little protection for us.

But I've always said LIVING in White neighborhoods, as a Black man, is a bad idea. Forcing integration of schools also was something I wasn't a fan of, I wouldn't want my Black kids learning next to kids who hate or dislike them.

He had higher plans than just integration and wanted to bring about the downfall of capitalism. People really need to read his written works and you'll understand his ideologies better and he didn't necessarily disagree with the NOI way of doing things, he thought "strategically" it wouldn't have worked very well. He was a strategists and his methods were working and showing their worth and his ideas were penetrating. Hell he was the most like black man in that era and he was even over the president and the only other black man to do that was Frederick Douglass. Integration was a tool to bring us closer to capturing our wealth that was stolen from us and breaking the bridges a social-economic institution was trying to prevent. He just trusted the wrong people and plus if he wasn't a threat then you would have special forces making sure he was a kill and the police as well. He was highly feared.

I agree, it's why I don't hate on MLK, even if I didn't agree with everything he fought for, I understand why he did it.
 
kingblaze84;8536843 said:
Ajackson17;8536674 said:
kingblaze84;8536599 said:
Black_Thunder;8469798 said:
Fuck a glad handing turn the other cheek for whitey to slap me again ass martin luther king

That nigga wasnt shit but a puppet with a white man hand up his ass, what other race of people in the whole damn world have been encouraged to get slapped and turn the other fucking cheek?

He went out like a ho, fighting for integration into a poisonous and cutthroat system designed to destroy a black man and rape his culture, which in 2015 is exactly what we have.

It's pretty harsh to say he went out like a hoe, some Black people work in White neighborhoods, so laws that helped make the lives of Black Americans a little easier shouldn't be trashed like that in my opinion. MLK Jr thought about the Blacks who worked in White neighborhoods, where there was little protection for us.

But I've always said LIVING in White neighborhoods, as a Black man, is a bad idea. Forcing integration of schools also was something I wasn't a fan of, I wouldn't want my Black kids learning next to kids who hate or dislike them.

He had higher plans than just integration and wanted to bring about the downfall of capitalism. People really need to read his written works and you'll understand his ideologies better and he didn't necessarily disagree with the NOI way of doing things, he thought "strategically" it wouldn't have worked very well. He was a strategists and his methods were working and showing their worth and his ideas were penetrating. Hell he was the most like black man in that era and he was even over the president and the only other black man to do that was Frederick Douglass. Integration was a tool to bring us closer to capturing our wealth that was stolen from us and breaking the bridges a social-economic institution was trying to prevent. He just trusted the wrong people and plus if he wasn't a threat then you would have special forces making sure he was a kill and the police as well. He was highly feared.

I agree, it's why I don't hate on MLK, even if I didn't agree with everything he fought for, I understand why he did it.

If you read his writings as well, he was dancing between theist and atheist quite a lot. I think he merely put christian ideology as myth with some good teachings.
 
Ajackson17;8536875 said:
kingblaze84;8536843 said:
Ajackson17;8536674 said:
kingblaze84;8536599 said:
Black_Thunder;8469798 said:
Fuck a glad handing turn the other cheek for whitey to slap me again ass martin luther king

That nigga wasnt shit but a puppet with a white man hand up his ass, what other race of people in the whole damn world have been encouraged to get slapped and turn the other fucking cheek?

He went out like a ho, fighting for integration into a poisonous and cutthroat system designed to destroy a black man and rape his culture, which in 2015 is exactly what we have.

It's pretty harsh to say he went out like a hoe, some Black people work in White neighborhoods, so laws that helped make the lives of Black Americans a little easier shouldn't be trashed like that in my opinion. MLK Jr thought about the Blacks who worked in White neighborhoods, where there was little protection for us.

But I've always said LIVING in White neighborhoods, as a Black man, is a bad idea. Forcing integration of schools also was something I wasn't a fan of, I wouldn't want my Black kids learning next to kids who hate or dislike them.

He had higher plans than just integration and wanted to bring about the downfall of capitalism. People really need to read his written works and you'll understand his ideologies better and he didn't necessarily disagree with the NOI way of doing things, he thought "strategically" it wouldn't have worked very well. He was a strategists and his methods were working and showing their worth and his ideas were penetrating. Hell he was the most like black man in that era and he was even over the president and the only other black man to do that was Frederick Douglass. Integration was a tool to bring us closer to capturing our wealth that was stolen from us and breaking the bridges a social-economic institution was trying to prevent. He just trusted the wrong people and plus if he wasn't a threat then you would have special forces making sure he was a kill and the police as well. He was highly feared.

I agree, it's why I don't hate on MLK, even if I didn't agree with everything he fought for, I understand why he did it.

If you read his writings as well, he was dancing between theist and atheist quite a lot. I think he merely put christian ideology as myth with some good teachings.

Wow that's fascinating, I didn't know that and I consider myself a student of history smh.....I'm gonna be reading up on what you said later
 
Ajackson17;8536875 said:
kingblaze84;8536843 said:
Ajackson17;8536674 said:
kingblaze84;8536599 said:
Black_Thunder;8469798 said:
Fuck a glad handing turn the other cheek for whitey to slap me again ass martin luther king

That nigga wasnt shit but a puppet with a white man hand up his ass, what other race of people in the whole damn world have been encouraged to get slapped and turn the other fucking cheek?

He went out like a ho, fighting for integration into a poisonous and cutthroat system designed to destroy a black man and rape his culture, which in 2015 is exactly what we have.

It's pretty harsh to say he went out like a hoe, some Black people work in White neighborhoods, so laws that helped make the lives of Black Americans a little easier shouldn't be trashed like that in my opinion. MLK Jr thought about the Blacks who worked in White neighborhoods, where there was little protection for us.

But I've always said LIVING in White neighborhoods, as a Black man, is a bad idea. Forcing integration of schools also was something I wasn't a fan of, I wouldn't want my Black kids learning next to kids who hate or dislike them.

He had higher plans than just integration and wanted to bring about the downfall of capitalism. People really need to read his written works and you'll understand his ideologies better and he didn't necessarily disagree with the NOI way of doing things, he thought "strategically" it wouldn't have worked very well. He was a strategists and his methods were working and showing their worth and his ideas were penetrating. Hell he was the most like black man in that era and he was even over the president and the only other black man to do that was Frederick Douglass. Integration was a tool to bring us closer to capturing our wealth that was stolen from us and breaking the bridges a social-economic institution was trying to prevent. He just trusted the wrong people and plus if he wasn't a threat then you would have special forces making sure he was a kill and the police as well. He was highly feared.

I agree, it's why I don't hate on MLK, even if I didn't agree with everything he fought for, I understand why he did it.

If you read his writings as well, he was dancing between theist and atheist quite a lot. I think he merely put christian ideology as myth with some good teachings.

Absolute nonsense. MLK was a Christian pure and simple there is absolutely no indication the man was an atheist or that he was just faking to achieve his goals. You just basically slandered his name.
 
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MLK had divergent religious views but to call the man an atheist is gross slander and highly disrespectful on a deep fundamental level
 
zzombie;8537823 said:
MLK had divergent religious views but to call the man an atheist is gross slander and highly disrespectful on a deep fundamental level

What I mean is that he had views that would be considered atheistic especially in his day and age. Atheos is to go against the state religion and bringing in new ideas that are foreign. That's what truly what they were accusing men of being.
 
Integration never really happened in this country, at least not totally. Blacks and Whites can get a cup of coffee together and work side by side, but everything else is totally different. It's 2015 and we still have black schools, black neighborhoods, a huge income disparity, and a large unemployment rate. Black people are still viewed as criminals as a whole, and black criminals commit crimes because they don't have access to quality education, jobs, & neighborhoods.

Integration/civil rights was a stupid fight to take on. All of the rights we wanted we already had. The 13th, 14th, 15th amendments already gave us the rights that we wanted, they just weren't being enforced. All of these issues were supposed to have been settled immediately after the Civil War. It's almost like the South won.
 
It is true that we were slowing transferring money into our community. Institutionally we were forced to behave the way many other cultures do naturally. If you think though that we are better off without segregation you are missing the parts of segregation that didn't follow a dollar.

Like being able to be a supervisor at a job.

Being able to live in whatever community you wanted.

So just the removal of the glass ceiling helped African Americans way more than the dollars we were getting off of being maids and then buying stuff from Mr. Monroe's corner store in South Park Memphis. Mr. Monroe was still poor.
 
Black_Thunder;8469798 said:
Fuck a glad handing turn the other cheek for whitey to slap me again ass martin luther king

That nigga wasnt shit but a puppet with a white man hand up his ass, what other race of people in the whole damn world have been encouraged to get slapped and turn the other fucking cheek?

He went out like a ho, fighting for integration into a poisonous and cutthroat system designed to destroy a black man and rape his culture, which in 2015 is exactly what we have.

Yo fam what do you think Isis is. They are doing a Caliphate to keep the controlling influences of Western and Russian governments out of their countries. PLO. ETC. ETC. This isn't uncommon in history. The problem with pre aggression is it muddies the water of the cause.
 
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rodneyskinner;8539490 said:
It is true that we were slowing transferring money into our community. Institutionally we were forced to behave the way many other cultures do naturally. If you think though that we are better off without segregation you are missing the parts of segregation that didn't follow a dollar.

Like being able to be a supervisor at a job.

Being able to live in whatever community you wanted.

So just the removal of the glass ceiling helped African Americans way more than the dollars we were getting off of being maids and then buying stuff from Mr. Monroe's corner store in South Park Memphis. Mr. Monroe was still poor.

The most important thing is the dollar all blacks got from integration was increased social acceptance. Which is useless.
 
zzombie;8539826 said:
rodneyskinner;8539490 said:
It is true that we were slowing transferring money into our community. Institutionally we were forced to behave the way many other cultures do naturally. If you think though that we are better off without segregation you are missing the parts of segregation that didn't follow a dollar.

Like being able to be a supervisor at a job.

Being able to live in whatever community you wanted.

So just the removal of the glass ceiling helped African Americans way more than the dollars we were getting off of being maids and then buying stuff from Mr. Monroe's corner store in South Park Memphis. Mr. Monroe was still poor.

The most important thing is the dollar all blacks got from integration was increased social acceptance. Which is useless.

Not true. You couldn't be foremans etc. They could openly write in the handbook that black people can only work cleaning floors and manual labor. They weren't allowed to be shift leaders in the plant. All of those jobs went to white people. Those middle class jobs gave opportunities for apprenticeship programs. My father was even in an apprenticeship program that's how he became a robotics engineer and the white people were mad served him racoon meat on black history month luncheon. I know about it cause I saw Memphis go from jewel of the south with all the plants to nothing. After they had to pay Black workers equal pay and give them opportunities they moved all of the manufacturing to the suburbs. If it wasn't for my dad having seniority he would have been stuck working in a battery factory. Instead he became a Robotics engineer and was one of a handful people that worked on honeywell Robots. Money isn't the most important thing. Opportunity is the most important thing. If I gave you 100k and you couldn't work for the next 5 years you would be stupid to take that money. With opportunity you get the chance to work hard and move up in the world. Difference between being a victim and being empowered.
 
Ya'll gotta stop and read up for real.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afric...ry_of_black_middle_class_in_the_United_States

Without the civil rights movement directly influenced by the ACTS of Martin Luther King, Not Malcolm X or NOI you see the middle class would have been no where. We need to get back not black pride but appreciation of the opportunities we have available. Its 5.5 million jobs open in America we need to be working with our communities on how to get access to the 5.5 million jobs. I got 2 paying near 90 and the other paying over 90. THAT'S CHUUUUCH. I just got another job offer in my email for remote work from home work that pays about the same amount.
 
rodneyskinner;8540038 said:
zzombie;8539826 said:
rodneyskinner;8539490 said:
It is true that we were slowing transferring money into our community. Institutionally we were forced to behave the way many other cultures do naturally. If you think though that we are better off without segregation you are missing the parts of segregation that didn't follow a dollar.

Like being able to be a supervisor at a job.

Being able to live in whatever community you wanted.

So just the removal of the glass ceiling helped African Americans way more than the dollars we were getting off of being maids and then buying stuff from Mr. Monroe's corner store in South Park Memphis. Mr. Monroe was still poor.

The most important thing is the dollar all blacks got from integration was increased social acceptance. Which is useless.

Not true. You couldn't be foremans etc. They could openly write in the handbook that black people can only work cleaning floors and manual labor. They weren't allowed to be shift leaders in the plant. All of those jobs went to white people. Those middle class jobs gave opportunities for apprenticeship programs. My father was even in an apprenticeship program that's how he became a robotics engineer and the white people were mad served him racoon meat on black history month luncheon. I know about it cause I saw Memphis go from jewel of the south with all the plants to nothing. After they had to pay Black workers equal pay and give them opportunities they moved all of the manufacturing to the suburbs. If it wasn't for my dad having seniority he would have been stuck working in a battery factory. Instead he became a Robotics engineer and was one of a handful people that worked on honeywell Robots. Money isn't the most important thing. Opportunity is the most important thing. If I gave you 100k and you couldn't work for the next 5 years you would be stupid to take that money. With opportunity you get the chance to work hard and move up in the world. Difference between being a victim and being empowered.

On an individual level you may be correct but on a larger scale opportunities to make white people rich do not empower black people. Which is what integration gave blacks. African-Americans have 1 trillion dollars of spending power we are still poor.

We should not be wanting to move up in the white world we should be making our own

Now should we have continued with the Jim crow system ??? No but what we currently have now does nothing to empower black people.
 
zzombie;8541039 said:
rodneyskinner;8540038 said:
zzombie;8539826 said:
rodneyskinner;8539490 said:
It is true that we were slowing transferring money into our community. Institutionally we were forced to behave the way many other cultures do naturally. If you think though that we are better off without segregation you are missing the parts of segregation that didn't follow a dollar.

Like being able to be a supervisor at a job.

Being able to live in whatever community you wanted.

So just the removal of the glass ceiling helped African Americans way more than the dollars we were getting off of being maids and then buying stuff from Mr. Monroe's corner store in South Park Memphis. Mr. Monroe was still poor.

The most important thing is the dollar all blacks got from integration was increased social acceptance. Which is useless.

Not true. You couldn't be foremans etc. They could openly write in the handbook that black people can only work cleaning floors and manual labor. They weren't allowed to be shift leaders in the plant. All of those jobs went to white people. Those middle class jobs gave opportunities for apprenticeship programs. My father was even in an apprenticeship program that's how he became a robotics engineer and the white people were mad served him racoon meat on black history month luncheon. I know about it cause I saw Memphis go from jewel of the south with all the plants to nothing. After they had to pay Black workers equal pay and give them opportunities they moved all of the manufacturing to the suburbs. If it wasn't for my dad having seniority he would have been stuck working in a battery factory. Instead he became a Robotics engineer and was one of a handful people that worked on honeywell Robots. Money isn't the most important thing. Opportunity is the most important thing. If I gave you 100k and you couldn't work for the next 5 years you would be stupid to take that money. With opportunity you get the chance to work hard and move up in the world. Difference between being a victim and being empowered.

On an individual level you may be correct but on a larger scale opportunities to make white people rich do not empower black people. Which is what integration gave blacks. African-Americans have 1 trillion dollars of spending power we are still poor.

We should not be wanting to move up in the white world we should be making our own

Now should we have continued with the Jim crow system ??? No but what we currently have now does nothing to empower black people.

We absolutely have a system that empowers anyone who can read and have willingness to try to get a sustainable lively hood. You can be anything if you work hard. The poorer you are the easier it is to get grants to help you. Our community needs to change the thought process of what is empowerment.

Java certifications, Database Certifications all of the software is free and can generally run on a cheap computer. Could you imagine if black inventors had access to that what they would have created.

The precedence for this is George Washington Carver. Pooling together poor resources regardless of color and turning around figuring out ways to take that talent into profitability. LIke he did for share croppers. If you truly want to help the black poor then you need to cast a net and help all the poor. My family being from Mississippi ended up with their own land handed because my grandmas dad applied those techniques.

 
Swiffness!;6134229 said:
KingJamal;6095468 said:
Integration was a terrible idea smh

We shoulda went with Black Nationalism and became self sufficient and support ourselves

Niggas ain't ready for that. Too much sacrifice, hard work, and bloodshed. Easier to chill and watch ESPN.

When they finally try to round us up into camps and mass graves, Nazi style, then maybe we'll learn.

man i said this 2 years ago. Fast forward; race relations are at a new nadir and America is on the brink of electing Hitler for real.

We may not have much time left.

 
Swiffness!;8561948 said:
Swiffness!;6134229 said:
KingJamal;6095468 said:
Integration was a terrible idea smh

We shoulda went with Black Nationalism and became self sufficient and support ourselves

Niggas ain't ready for that. Too much sacrifice, hard work, and bloodshed. Easier to chill and watch ESPN.

When they finally try to round us up into camps and mass graves, Nazi style, then maybe we'll learn.

man i said this 2 years ago. Fast forward; race relations are at a new nadir and America is on the brink of electing Hitler for real.

We may not have much time left.

SMH....but don't u support gun control tho???

 
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