How you feel about Chris Rock's Niggas vs Black People Stand Up?

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LUClEN;8566838 said:
desertrain10;8566327 said:
Mister B.;8566309 said:
One of the best comedy routines done. He crushed that shit. I play that shit once a week on my iPod.

"I ain't lookin' over my back for the media....I'm lookin for NIGGAS!" Ted Koppel ain't never took shit from me....niggas have."

Wait...

So you agree with the notion certain black people are not worthy of basic levels of respect and deserve everything that comes to them?

Strawman

I just was just looking for him to clarify his position

Anyways...

How u do feel about the whole "niggas" vs" black people" routine?

Add something of worth to the discussion
 
Skuurrt_Angle ;8567007 said:
S2J;8566536 said:
I love it man. The ability to speak freely and address big fat gigantic elephants in the room.

No, we are not all perfect.

No, our race, or ANY race, are not all bastions of hope and beacons of light

The only problem is ....that admission and conversation left the black community.

Similar to rappers who rap the truth then if they blow and it gets out to the masses

But does that change its purity of the message or how YOU view it?

So if TODAY, Black Girl Lost is covered on CNN and goes mainstream , does that change how YOU feel about? Make it any less true?

If 2nd Childhood suddenly became famous, does that change how YOU feel about it

So when Nas says:

Baby girl she's always talkin name droppin hangin late

Drinkin smokin hates her baby daddy, craves shoppin

E poppin Ecstasy takin, won't finish her education

Best friend she keeps changin, stuck with limitations

Lustin men, many hotels, Fendi Chanel

With nothin in her bank account frontin she do well

Her kid suffers he don't get that love he deserve

He the Sun, she the Earth, single mom, even worse

No job never stay workin, mad purty

Shorty they call her the brain surgeon

Time flyin she the same person, never matures

All her friends married doin well

She's in the streets yakkety yakkin like she was 12

Honey is twenty-seven, argues fights

Selfish in her own right, polite, guess she's in her second childhood

Would the fact that white people get a hold of that change what YOU feel about it? Foh If so them crackas own you and you the real sellout, not Chris Rock.

How do u get away with not being called a coon by these folks?

Well im not one so that helps, but im also too honest and they know im right. I say what people not bold enough to say. Also they know they arms not long enough to box lls Typical reaction when i post:

258bf345_AlonzoMourningThinks.gif


Niggas know i got these bars
 
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Shuffington;8566974 said:
Mister B.;8566309 said:
One of the best comedy routines done. He crushed that shit. I play that shit once a week on my iPod.

"I ain't lookin' over my back for the media....I'm lookin for NIGGAS!" Ted Koppel ain't never took shit from me....niggas have."

I say its just comedy because you know what .... I f*ckin laughed ...lol.... No FG's either.

Im happy that I could laugh about it to.

On a basic level that joke is hilarious

Growing up in Bmore watching people you know go to jail or get murdered...

I wasn't looking for whitey and the media when my mom got robbed at the ATM. I wasn't looking for the cops because they didn't come to our neighborhoods. The fact that I can laugh at Chris Rocks joke is a relief to me cause the hood was rough.!

Did this joke single handedly help bring additional destruction to the black community. NO .Does this joke ignore the greater context to why our communities are in the shape they're in as a whole. Yes, but that doesn't make the joke any less funny to me imo.

I dunno

“I hide my money in books. Why? Because niggas don’t read”

I just don't such lines funny coming from any person, even if that person is a nigga

No matter the intent

Especially when I'm just another nigga to those who haven't had the pleasure of getting to know me

 
What i hated about it, when i was in the service, white people would always want to talk about it and quote it.

The Office - Michael's Chris Rock Routine
 
S2J;8567046 said:
Skuurrt_Angle ;8567007 said:
S2J;8566536 said:
I love it man. The ability to speak freely and address big fat gigantic elephants in the room.

No, we are not all perfect.

No, our race, or ANY race, are not all bastions of hope and beacons of light

The only problem is ....that admission and conversation left the black community.

Similar to rappers who rap the truth then if they blow and it gets out to the masses

But does that change its purity of the message or how YOU view it?

So if TODAY, Black Girl Lost is covered on CNN and goes mainstream , does that change how YOU feel about? Make it any less true?

If 2nd Childhood suddenly became famous, does that change how YOU feel about it

So when Nas says:

Baby girl she's always talkin name droppin hangin late

Drinkin smokin hates her baby daddy, craves shoppin

E poppin Ecstasy takin, won't finish her education

Best friend she keeps changin, stuck with limitations

Lustin men, many hotels, Fendi Chanel

With nothin in her bank account frontin she do well

Her kid suffers he don't get that love he deserve

He the Sun, she the Earth, single mom, even worse

No job never stay workin, mad purty

Shorty they call her the brain surgeon

Time flyin she the same person, never matures

All her friends married doin well

She's in the streets yakkety yakkin like she was 12

Honey is twenty-seven, argues fights

Selfish in her own right, polite, guess she's in her second childhood

Would the fact that white people get a hold of that change what YOU feel about it? Foh If so them crackas own you and you the real sellout, not Chris Rock.

How do u get away with not being called a coon by these folks?

Well im not one so that helps, but im also too honest and they know im right. I say what people not bold enough to say. Also they know they arms not long enough to box lls Typical reaction when i post:

258bf345_AlonzoMourningThinks.gif


Niggas know i got these bars

Lol

You're not nearly as smart or enlightened or as bold as you think you are

 
desertrain10;8567071 said:
Shuffington;8566974 said:
Mister B.;8566309 said:
One of the best comedy routines done. He crushed that shit. I play that shit once a week on my iPod.

"I ain't lookin' over my back for the media....I'm lookin for NIGGAS!" Ted Koppel ain't never took shit from me....niggas have."

I say its just comedy because you know what .... I f*ckin laughed ...lol.... No FG's either.

Im happy that I could laugh about it to.

On a basic level that joke is hilarious

Growing up in Bmore watching people you know go to jail or get murdered...

I wasn't looking for whitey and the media when my mom got robbed at the ATM. I wasn't looking for the cops because they didn't come to our neighborhoods. The fact that I can laugh at Chris Rocks joke is a relief to me cause the hood was rough.!

Did this joke single handedly help bring additional destruction to the black community. NO .Does this joke ignore the greater context to why our communities are in the shape they're in as a whole. Yes, but that doesn't make the joke any less funny to me imo.

I dunno

“I hide my money in books. Why? Because niggas don’t read”

I just don't such lines funny coming from any person, even if that person is a nigga

No matter the intent

Especially when I'm just another nigga to those who haven't had the pleasure of getting to know me

I was laughing after reading that quote. Lmao. That was funny.

You didn't think that was funny? "Niggas don't read" lmao

"A civil war, black people vs Niggas"...lmao

 
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I don't really like Chris Rock and I don't believe all comedy or entertainment should be taken seriously, in fact most of it is just what it is...entertainment.

While I don't like that "niggas" exist, they do exist. Now you can blame circumstances, white supremacy or whatever you want but I'm just as black as the guy who sells dope to someone who is just as black as himself. Im just as black as the thugs who shoot at kids or shoot at each other. Im just as black as the people who shoot up clubs here in Detroit damm near every weekend.

That said, what super special white supremacy affects them but has no effect on me or the majority of other Black people?

The vast majority of Black folks dont and dont even consider doing the shit these "niggas" do.

They exist, it is what it is. You want to blame white folks? Fine but ignoring niggerism and constantly excusing nigga shit isn't helping and won't help.

I had a cousin who told me he would rather rob than work, when did white folks send that memo out because I swear me, my friends, brothers and other cousins didn't get it. He a fucking nigga...period. If he wasn't my cousin I could be on the list.

I have another cousin that DID rob another one of our cousins and she was raped during the robbery (home invasion) by his homeboys who he brought with him. No white people were involved...except the cops who arrested his punk ass.

What super special white supremacy made this shit happen?
 
desertrain10;8566831 said:
LPast;8566741 said:
Already Home_17;8566734 said:
look in that crowd

it's damn near 100% black

he was talking amongst his people and speaking real shit

was there a bit of hyperbole? sure

but y'all know the "niggas" he was referring to

the niggas that kill eachother over senseless shit

the niggas who killed that child weeks ago because they had a beef with his father

the niggas that steal from others who worked hard for what they have

the niggas that are shamelessly ignorant

the niggas who sell drugs to their own killing their community

and so on

are we really giving these niggas a pass? why can't we call them out? fuck hurting our "image". they're hurting us

Whoa chill, the white man made them kill that kid. White supremacy made them steal that TV.

They have no choice....

We can all agree no race has a monopoly on ignorance, but "niggas" didn't just sprout independently

No one said that...

desertrain10;8566831 said:
LPast;8566741 said:
Already Home_17;8566734 said:
look in that crowd

it's damn near 100% black

he was talking amongst his people and speaking real shit

was there a bit of hyperbole? sure

but y'all know the "niggas" he was referring to

the niggas that kill eachother over senseless shit

the niggas who killed that child weeks ago because they had a beef with his father

the niggas that steal from others who worked hard for what they have

the niggas that are shamelessly ignorant

the niggas who sell drugs to their own killing their community

and so on

are we really giving these niggas a pass? why can't we call them out? fuck hurting our "image". they're hurting us

Whoa chill, the white man made them kill that kid. White supremacy made them steal that TV.

They have no choice....

...subscribing to this distinction between "niggas" and "blk people" separating their shortcomings from the racism and other forms of oppression that produced them is dehumanizing

People are not "produced" ...

Circumstances can provide significant obstacles ... But we are not our circumstances.

desertrain10;8566831 said:
LPast;8566741 said:
Already Home_17;8566734 said:
look in that crowd

it's damn near 100% black

he was talking amongst his people and speaking real shit

was there a bit of hyperbole? sure

but y'all know the "niggas" he was referring to

the niggas that kill eachother over senseless shit

the niggas who killed that child weeks ago because they had a beef with his father

the niggas that steal from others who worked hard for what they have

the niggas that are shamelessly ignorant

the niggas who sell drugs to their own killing their community

and so on

are we really giving these niggas a pass? why can't we call them out? fuck hurting our "image". they're hurting us

Whoa chill, the white man made them kill that kid. White supremacy made them steal that TV.

They have no choice....

It also does nothing to address the conditions which produces "niggas"

Definitely true.

But a comedy skit does little at all besides entertain.

What CAN do something, is shifting the overall mindset to not make excuses for the "niggas" destroying our communities.

YES, white supremacy is the leading contributing factor. But we are not helpless ...

And EVERYTHING is not the "white man's" fault
 
desertrain10;8567097 said:
S2J;8567046 said:
Skuurrt_Angle ;8567007 said:
S2J;8566536 said:
I love it man. The ability to speak freely and address big fat gigantic elephants in the room.

No, we are not all perfect.

No, our race, or ANY race, are not all bastions of hope and beacons of light

The only problem is ....that admission and conversation left the black community.

Similar to rappers who rap the truth then if they blow and it gets out to the masses

But does that change its purity of the message or how YOU view it?

So if TODAY, Black Girl Lost is covered on CNN and goes mainstream , does that change how YOU feel about? Make it any less true?

If 2nd Childhood suddenly became famous, does that change how YOU feel about it

So when Nas says:

Baby girl she's always talkin name droppin hangin late

Drinkin smokin hates her baby daddy, craves shoppin

E poppin Ecstasy takin, won't finish her education

Best friend she keeps changin, stuck with limitations

Lustin men, many hotels, Fendi Chanel

With nothin in her bank account frontin she do well

Her kid suffers he don't get that love he deserve

He the Sun, she the Earth, single mom, even worse

No job never stay workin, mad purty

Shorty they call her the brain surgeon

Time flyin she the same person, never matures

All her friends married doin well

She's in the streets yakkety yakkin like she was 12

Honey is twenty-seven, argues fights

Selfish in her own right, polite, guess she's in her second childhood

Would the fact that white people get a hold of that change what YOU feel about it? Foh If so them crackas own you and you the real sellout, not Chris Rock.

How do u get away with not being called a coon by these folks?

Well im not one so that helps, but im also too honest and they know im right. I say what people not bold enough to say. Also they know they arms not long enough to box lls Typical reaction when i post:

258bf345_AlonzoMourningThinks.gif


Niggas know i got these bars

Lol

You're not nearly as smart or enlightened or as bold as you think you are

Bc you're a woman people are afraid to tell you this:

When it comes to 'debates', you're an assclown.

And i say that in the spirit of fairness bc i'd tell the same to a dude who posts like you. You should be flattered Im addressing you as an equal and not tiptoeing around your bullshit, aka patronizing you

Stop rage debating with bullshit logic and flawed rebuttals
 
LPast;8567134 said:
desertrain10;8567071 said:
Shuffington;8566974 said:
Mister B.;8566309 said:
One of the best comedy routines done. He crushed that shit. I play that shit once a week on my iPod.

"I ain't lookin' over my back for the media....I'm lookin for NIGGAS!" Ted Koppel ain't never took shit from me....niggas have."

I say its just comedy because you know what .... I f*ckin laughed ...lol.... No FG's either.

Im happy that I could laugh about it to.

On a basic level that joke is hilarious

Growing up in Bmore watching people you know go to jail or get murdered...

I wasn't looking for whitey and the media when my mom got robbed at the ATM. I wasn't looking for the cops because they didn't come to our neighborhoods. The fact that I can laugh at Chris Rocks joke is a relief to me cause the hood was rough.!

Did this joke single handedly help bring additional destruction to the black community. NO .Does this joke ignore the greater context to why our communities are in the shape they're in as a whole. Yes, but that doesn't make the joke any less funny to me imo.

I dunno

“I hide my money in books. Why? Because niggas don’t read”

I just don't such lines funny coming from any person, even if that person is a nigga

No matter the intent

Especially when I'm just another nigga to those who haven't had the pleasure of getting to know me

I was laughing after reading that quote. Lmao. That was funny.

You didn't think that was funny? "Niggas don't read" lmao

"A civil war, black people vs Niggas"...lmao

Why?

Seriously....

 
I took it as comedy never expecting how many idiots would take that shit and run with it.

Trying to distinguish themselves from other Black people... smh
 
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Ok seriously, how did 20 people say its just comedy? ? Lmao Yall niggas weak man

You either agree or you dont, theres no way you can think its 'just comedy' with the level of truth in it, the honest commentary nature of Chris Rock material, and the fact that bit has been dissected many times and we're talking about it TWENTY years later

But let us bring up Chapelle Show. ..oh no that's not comedy. That was GENIUS
 
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5th Letter;8566045 said:
White people took it as gospel I know that much.

He's said that's his only regret about that joke is white people coming up to him saying how much they love that bit.
 
WE get it. He defines it perfectly, but when I went to a white college and had a white guy come up to me and try and repeat how he agreed with Chris Rock it reinforced exactly how I felt when I first heard it. It's funny, he's funny but that shit's funny and not to be taken too seriously
 
S2J;8567248 said:
desertrain10;8567097 said:
S2J;8567046 said:
Skuurrt_Angle ;8567007 said:
S2J;8566536 said:
I love it man. The ability to speak freely and address big fat gigantic elephants in the room.

No, we are not all perfect.

No, our race, or ANY race, are not all bastions of hope and beacons of light

The only problem is ....that admission and conversation left the black community.

Similar to rappers who rap the truth then if they blow and it gets out to the masses

But does that change its purity of the message or how YOU view it?

So if TODAY, Black Girl Lost is covered on CNN and goes mainstream , does that change how YOU feel about? Make it any less true?

If 2nd Childhood suddenly became famous, does that change how YOU feel about it

So when Nas says:

Baby girl she's always talkin name droppin hangin late

Drinkin smokin hates her baby daddy, craves shoppin

E poppin Ecstasy takin, won't finish her education

Best friend she keeps changin, stuck with limitations

Lustin men, many hotels, Fendi Chanel

With nothin in her bank account frontin she do well

Her kid suffers he don't get that love he deserve

He the Sun, she the Earth, single mom, even worse

No job never stay workin, mad purty

Shorty they call her the brain surgeon

Time flyin she the same person, never matures

All her friends married doin well

She's in the streets yakkety yakkin like she was 12

Honey is twenty-seven, argues fights

Selfish in her own right, polite, guess she's in her second childhood

Would the fact that white people get a hold of that change what YOU feel about it? Foh If so them crackas own you and you the real sellout, not Chris Rock.

How do u get away with not being called a coon by these folks?

Well im not one so that helps, but im also too honest and they know im right. I say what people not bold enough to say. Also they know they arms not long enough to box lls Typical reaction when i post:

258bf345_AlonzoMourningThinks.gif


Niggas know i got these bars

Lol

You're not nearly as smart or enlightened or as bold as you think you are

Bc you're a woman people are afraid to tell you this:

When it comes to 'debates', you're an assclown.

And i say that in the spirit of fairness bc i'd tell the same to a dude who posts like you. You should be flattered Im addressing you as an equal and not tiptoeing around your bullshit, aka patronizing you

Stop rage debating with bullshit logic and flawed rebuttals

The only thing your good for is for laughs

Which is cool, it's the I.C.

Thing is most are at your expense

I will admit you are right about one thing, in no way are we equals

And thank gawd, I love being able to actually articulate my thoughts without having to resort to childish name calling

Who the fuck says "assclown" besides prepubescent white boys?

 
We all knew what he was getting at with this bit. The absolute worst types of people took it in the exact way you'd expect them to, though.
 
jono;8567146 said:
I don't really like Chris Rock and I don't believe all comedy or entertainment should be taken seriously, in fact most of it is just what it is...entertainment.

While I don't like that "niggas" exist, they do exist. Now you can blame circumstances, white supremacy or whatever you want but I'm just as black as the guy who sells dope to someone who is just as black as himself. Im just as black as the thugs who shoot at kids or shoot at each other. Im just as black as the people who shoot up clubs here in Detroit damm near every weekend.

That said, what super special white supremacy affects them but has no effect on me or the majority of other Black people?

The vast majority of Black folks dont and dont even consider doing the shit these "niggas" do.

They exist, it is what it is. You want to blame white folks? Fine but ignoring niggerism and constantly excusing nigga shit isn't helping and won't help.

I had a cousin who told me he would rather rob than work, when did white folks send that memo out because I swear me, my friends, brothers and other cousins didn't get it. He a fucking nigga...period. If he wasn't my cousin I could be on the list.

I have another cousin that DID rob another one of our cousins and she was raped during the robbery (home invasion) by his homeboys who he brought with him. No white people were involved...except the cops who arrested his punk ass.

What super special white supremacy made this shit happen?

Smh. I expected better from you. White supremacy created the ghetto, and the ghetto created those individuals. There is a direct causal link between white misdeeds and the conditions that create these individuals that you are talking about, though whether any given individual criminally offends or ends up being a stereotype is result of multiple factors. You have an impoverished understanding of how the past can affect the present.

 
Undefeatable;8567379 said:
jono;8567146 said:
I don't really like Chris Rock and I don't believe all comedy or entertainment should be taken seriously, in fact most of it is just what it is...entertainment.

While I don't like that "niggas" exist, they do exist. Now you can blame circumstances, white supremacy or whatever you want but I'm just as black as the guy who sells dope to someone who is just as black as himself. Im just as black as the thugs who shoot at kids or shoot at each other. Im just as black as the people who shoot up clubs here in Detroit damm near every weekend.

That said, what super special white supremacy affects them but has no effect on me or the majority of other Black people?

The vast majority of Black folks dont and dont even consider doing the shit these "niggas" do.

They exist, it is what it is. You want to blame white folks? Fine but ignoring niggerism and constantly excusing nigga shit isn't helping and won't help.

I had a cousin who told me he would rather rob than work, when did white folks send that memo out because I swear me, my friends, brothers and other cousins didn't get it. He a fucking nigga...period. If he wasn't my cousin I could be on the list.

I have another cousin that DID rob another one of our cousins and she was raped during the robbery (home invasion) by his homeboys who he brought with him. No white people were involved...except the cops who arrested his punk ass.

What super special white supremacy made this shit happen?

Smh. I expected better from you. White supremacy created the ghetto, and the ghetto created those individuals. There is a direct causal link between white misdeeds and the conditions that create these individuals that you are talking about, though whether any given individual criminally offends or ends up being a stereotype is result of multiple factors. You have an impoverished understanding of how the past can affect the present.

There are hundreds of thousands of blacks in the ghetto, millions even and only a handful of them are that ignorant.

Michael Eric Dyson and his brother grew up in the same house here in Detroit, one got a PHD the other went to prison.

Why is that?
 

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