How you feel about Chris Rock's Niggas vs Black People Stand Up?

[ThaNubianGod]

I honestly never really found Rock or that joke funny growing up...or even now

Just always rubbed me the wrong way

Sure, Rock was joking, but I see that for many he was reinforcing this idea that "niggas" aren’t just unworthy of basic levels of respect, they deserve open contempt and ridicule. They are the reason racism exist...

Bullshit to say the least

And counterproductive

Racism sees no distinction between "black people" and" niggas"

You're the type of person who has ruined entertainment. God damn, what a weak ass society we have today. Rock's whole routine went over your head.

 

[Lou Cypher]

Just comedy.

Im a fan of Chris Rock.

 

[LPast]

I love it man. The ability to speak freely and address big fat gigantic elephants in the room.

No, we are not all perfect.

No, our race, or ANY race, are not all bastions of hope and beacons of light

The only problem is ....that admission and conversation left the black community.

Similar to rappers who rap the truth then if they blow and it gets out to the masses

But does that change its purity of the message or how YOU view it?

So if TODAY, Black Girl Lost is covered on CNN and goes mainstream , does that change how YOU feel about? Make it any less true?

If 2nd Childhood suddenly became famous, does that change how YOU feel about it

So when Nas says:

Spoiler

Baby girl she's always talkin name droppin hangin late

Drinkin smokin hates her baby daddy, craves shoppin

E poppin Ecstasy takin, won't finish her education

Best friend she keeps changin, stuck with limitations

Lustin men, many hotels, Fendi Chanel

With nothin in her bank account frontin she do well

Her kid suffers he don't get that love he deserve

He the Sun, she the Earth, single mom, even worse

No job never stay workin, mad purty

Shorty they call her the brain surgeon

Time flyin she the same person, never matures

All her friends married doin well

She's in the streets yakkety yakkin like she was 12

Honey is twenty-seven, argues fights

Selfish in her own right, polite, guess she's in her second childhood

Would the fact that white people get a hold of that change what YOU feel about it? Foh If so them crackas own you and you the real sellout, not Chris Rock.

That's why I had to preface the poll by saying "don't tell me about what white people think". Sometimes we don't have an opinion without involving white people.

 

[leftcoastkev]

From a typical Americanized euro indoctrinated POV it made sense (yeah context) but once you have some degree of enlightenment or consciousness it doesn't make as much sense.

In other words, when I was younger mentally I thought it was pure comedy. Now that I've matured mentally I see it differently.

But he's a comedian who did a comedy skit from whatever his frame of mind was at the time. Can't expect everyone to be deep or be on the same level of consciousness in every thing they do.

 

[desertrain10]

I honestly never really found Rock or that joke funny growing up...or even now

Just always rubbed me the wrong way

Sure, Rock was joking, but I see that for many he was reinforcing this idea that "niggas" aren’t just unworthy of basic levels of respect, they deserve open contempt and ridicule. They are the reason racism exist...

Bullshit to say the least

And counterproductive

Racism sees no distinction between "black people" and" niggas"

You're the type of person who has ruined entertainment. God damn, what a weak ass society we have today. Rock's whole routine went over your head.

Lol @ the joke going over my head

No, I think my post went over you head

Or maybe it touched a nerve

 

[Undefeatable]

It's funny how these days many of you call people coons for the slightest thing, and yet you're willing to let this abomination slide. Hell, many of you are the ones saying that you don't see a problem.

So-called niggas are just black people who have who have been particularly harmed by white supremacy. Or at least, most are. The historical context here is everything. So in dehistoricizing this Rock makes it appear that 'niggas' just appear out of nowhere, and for this he deserves our everlasting reproach.

 

[S2J]

Just comedy.

Im a fan of Chris Rock.

Whaaat??? Lmao You gon have to sit tha fuck down for this biddy

 

[S2J]

I love it man. The ability to speak freely and address big fat gigantic elephants in the room.

No, we are not all perfect.

No, our race, or ANY race, are not all bastions of hope and beacons of light

The only problem is ....that admission and conversation left the black community.

Similar to rappers who rap the truth then if they blow and it gets out to the masses

But does that change its purity of the message or how YOU view it?

So if TODAY, Black Girl Lost is covered on CNN and goes mainstream , does that change how YOU feel about? Make it any less true?

If 2nd Childhood suddenly became famous, does that change how YOU feel about it

So when Nas says:

Spoiler

Baby girl she's always talkin name droppin hangin late

Drinkin smokin hates her baby daddy, craves shoppin

E poppin Ecstasy takin, won't finish her education

Best friend she keeps changin, stuck with limitations

Lustin men, many hotels, Fendi Chanel

With nothin in her bank account frontin she do well

Her kid suffers he don't get that love he deserve

He the Sun, she the Earth, single mom, even worse

No job never stay workin, mad purty

Shorty they call her the brain surgeon

Time flyin she the same person, never matures

All her friends married doin well

She's in the streets yakkety yakkin like she was 12

Honey is twenty-seven, argues fights

Selfish in her own right, polite, guess she's in her second childhood

Would the fact that white people get a hold of that change what YOU feel about it? Foh If so them crackas own you and you the real sellout, not Chris Rock.

That's why I had to preface the poll by saying "don't tell me about what white people think". Sometimes we don't have an opinion without involving white people.

Nice catch, as you can see with a lot of folk 'what will whitey think' is first thing on their mind.

 

[ThaNubianGod]

It's funny how these days many of you call people coons for the slightest thing, and yet you're willing to let this abomination slide. Hell, many of you are the ones saying that you don't see a problem.

Actually, this is the whole point. Anything that is self-critical of our community is seen as coonish these days. It didn't used to be that way, and it's bullshit. Black people have always been the most open and honest of any group, and it's how we've improved ourselves over the years.

So-called niggas are just black people who have who have been particularly harmed by white supremacy. Or at least, most are. The historical context here is everything. So in dehistoricizing this Rock makes it appear that 'niggas' just appear out of nowhere, and for this he deserves our everlasting reproach.

Niggas = people who ain't about shit in life

I don't know where they hell you grew up, but there are a tons of niggas in hoods across America. Just like there are tons of rednecks across America too. This isn't even a race thing, it's a life purpose thing. Most Black people go to work, support their families, etc, like everyone else. But we have a small minority who ain't about shit in life, and fuck them. White people don't cape for rednecks, so why should we cape for lowlifes in our community.

Simply put, we need to self-police our community from low-lifes(because we know the regular cops won't do shit). We let too much shit slide and then run campaigns to "understand" those messing up shit in our neighborhoods. And we should be criticizing people for shining lights on things, quite the oppostie.

 

[Already Home_17]

look in that crowd

it's damn near 100% black

he was talking amongst his people and speaking real shit

was there a bit of hyperbole? sure

but y'all know the "niggas" he was referring to

the niggas that kill eachother over senseless shit

the niggas who killed that child weeks ago because they had a beef with his father

the niggas that steal from others who worked hard for what they have

the niggas that are shamelessly ignorant

the niggas who sell drugs to their own killing their community

and so on

are we really giving these niggas a pass? why can't we call them out? fuck hurting our "image". they're hurting us

 

[Peace_79]

It's funny how these days many of you call people coons for the slightest thing, and yet you're willing to let this abomination slide. Hell, many of you are the ones saying that you don't see a problem.

Actually, this is the whole point. Anything that is self-critical of our community is seen as coonish these days. It didn't used to be that way, and it's bullshit. Black people have always been the most open and honest of any group, and it's how we've improved ourselves over the years.

This.

How are we going to improve as a community if we can't even look in the mirror and make adjustments?

Or have an honest conversation...

Is ALL the reponsibility external?

We are more than the result of white supremacy and its systemic affects.

We are people with free will, not a literal product of our respective environments.

I believe he said he regret ever doing that skit because of how people took it and the way racists refer to use it as a solid proof of what they are doing is good for the betterment.

Couldn't agree more. It's sad how whites twisted and used it to fit their own racist narrative. For that reason, maybe he should have treaded more carefully- given his platform and influence...

That doesn't mean it isn't funny ...

Or that his point is void of any merit...

 

[LPast]

look in that crowd

it's damn near 100% black

he was talking amongst his people and speaking real shit

was there a bit of hyperbole? sure

but y'all know the "niggas" he was referring to

the niggas that kill eachother over senseless shit

the niggas who killed that child weeks ago because they had a beef with his father

the niggas that steal from others who worked hard for what they have

the niggas that are shamelessly ignorant

the niggas who sell drugs to their own killing their community

and so on

are we really giving these niggas a pass? why can't we call them out? fuck hurting our "image". they're hurting us

Whoa chill, the white man made them kill that kid. White supremacy made them steal that TV.

They have no choice....

 

[Undefeatable]

It's funny how these days many of you call people coons for the slightest thing, and yet you're willing to let this abomination slide. Hell, many of you are the ones saying that you don't see a problem.

Actually, this is the whole point. Anything that is self-critical of our community is seen as coonish these days. It didn't used to be that way, and it's bullshit. Black people have always been the most open and honest of any group, and it's how we've improved ourselves over the years.

So-called niggas are just black people who have who have been particularly harmed by white supremacy. Or at least, most are. The historical context here is everything. So in dehistoricizing this Rock makes it appear that 'niggas' just appear out of nowhere, and for this he deserves our everlasting reproach.

Niggas = people who ain't about shit in life

I don't know where they hell you grew up, but there are a tons of niggas in hoods across America. Just like there are tons of rednecks across America too. This isn't even a race thing, it's a life purpose thing. Most Black people go to work, support their families, etc, like everyone else. But we have a small minority who ain't about shit in life, and fuck them. White people don't cape for rednecks, so why should we cape for lowlifes in our community.

Simply put, we need to self-police our community from low-lifes(because we know the regular cops won't do shit). We let too much shit slide and then run campaigns to "understand" those messing up shit in our neighborhoods. And we should be criticizing people for shining lights on things, quite the oppostie.

I have no problem with being self-critical, but if you are gonna act like "black lowlifes," as you call them, just exist as white ones do, then I'm going to have a big problem, for they are in truth the creation of white oppression. So it is very much a race thing.

 

[desertrain10]

look in that crowd

it's damn near 100% black

he was talking amongst his people and speaking real shit

was there a bit of hyperbole? sure

but y'all know the "niggas" he was referring to

the niggas that kill eachother over senseless shit

the niggas who killed that child weeks ago because they had a beef with his father

the niggas that steal from others who worked hard for what they have

the niggas that are shamelessly ignorant

the niggas who sell drugs to their own killing their community

and so on

are we really giving these niggas a pass? why can't we call them out? fuck hurting our "image". they're hurting us

Whoa chill, the white man made them kill that kid. White supremacy made them steal that TV.

They have no choice....

We can all agree no race has a monopoly on ignorance, but "niggas" didn't just sprout independently

A lot of the delinquent and self destructive behavior you referred to is the result of internalized racism, mental health issues such as PTSD, childhood abuse, etc

Places like Southside Chicago is the result of explicit, racially purposeful and at times inadvertently racist policy that was pursued at all levels of government

So subscribing to this distinction between "niggas" and "blk people" separating their shortcomings from the racism and other forms of oppression that produced them is dehumanizing

Same as when the media paints blk shooters as "thugs" or "militant" and empathizes with white mass shooters as the "mentally ill" who were victims of a failing mental health system

It also does nothing to address the conditions which produces "niggas"

 

[LUClEN]

One of the best comedy routines done. He crushed that shit. I play that shit once a week on my iPod.

"I ain't lookin' over my back for the media....I'm lookin for NIGGAS!" Ted Koppel ain't never took shit from me....niggas have."

Wait...

So you agree with the notion certain black people are not worthy of basic levels of respect and deserve everything that comes to them?

Strawman

 

[S2J]

One of the best comedy routines done. He crushed that shit. I play that shit once a week on my iPod.

"I ain't lookin' over my back for the media....I'm lookin for NIGGAS!" Ted Koppel ain't never took shit from me....niggas have."

Wait...

So you agree with the notion certain black people are not worthy of basic levels of respect and deserve everything that comes to them?

Strawman

Lmao

I been told yall, when a mfer start a sentence with 'wait', and/or

'So you sayin', THEY REACHIN!!!

 

[Shuffington]

One of the best comedy routines done. He crushed that shit. I play that shit once a week on my iPod.

"I ain't lookin' over my back for the media....I'm lookin for NIGGAS!" Ted Koppel ain't never took shit from me....niggas have."

I say its just comedy because you know what .... I f*ckin laughed ...lol.... No FG's either.

Im happy that I could laugh about it to.

On a basic level that joke is hilarious

Growing up in Bmore watching people you know go to jail or get murdered...

I wasn't looking for whitey and the media when my mom got robbed at the ATM. I wasn't looking for the cops because they didn't come to our neighborhoods. The fact that I can laugh at Chris Rocks joke is a relief to me cause the hood was rough.!

Did this joke single handedly help bring additional destruction to the black community. NO .Does this joke ignore the greater context to why our communities are in the shape they're in as a whole. Yes, but that doesn't make the joke any less funny to me imo.

 

[rapmusic]

Motherfuckers been saying shit like that and they ain't even trying to tell jokes. Chris Rock did not pull this from his ass.

 

[SolemnSauce]

I love it man. The ability to speak freely and address big fat gigantic elephants in the room.

No, we are not all perfect.

No, our race, or ANY race, are not all bastions of hope and beacons of light

The only problem is ....that admission and conversation left the black community.

Similar to rappers who rap the truth then if they blow and it gets out to the masses

But does that change its purity of the message or how YOU view it?

So if TODAY, Black Girl Lost is covered on CNN and goes mainstream , does that change how YOU feel about? Make it any less true?

If 2nd Childhood suddenly became famous, does that change how YOU feel about it

So when Nas says:

Spoiler

Baby girl she's always talkin name droppin hangin late

Drinkin smokin hates her baby daddy, craves shoppin

E poppin Ecstasy takin, won't finish her education

Best friend she keeps changin, stuck with limitations

Lustin men, many hotels, Fendi Chanel

With nothin in her bank account frontin she do well

Her kid suffers he don't get that love he deserve

He the Sun, she the Earth, single mom, even worse

No job never stay workin, mad purty

Shorty they call her the brain surgeon

Time flyin she the same person, never matures

All her friends married doin well

She's in the streets yakkety yakkin like she was 12

Honey is twenty-seven, argues fights

Selfish in her own right, polite, guess she's in her second childhood

Would the fact that white people get a hold of that change what YOU feel about it? Foh If so them crackas own you and you the real sellout, not Chris Rock.

How do u get away with not being called a coon by these folks?

 

[Shuffington]

Ima just wait for the Coming to America thread to be made.

Akeem was from a hypothetical Country called Zamunda with a pet elephant name Babaar... and he claimed that he made a living as a Goat herder.

The sh*t was funny in 88 and I can still laugh at it 27 years later even if some of the jokes are insensitive.

But if someone made the same exact movie today. Hell would break loose.