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Those are large mammoth companies. They dont have any sort of loyalty to the US.. its more about loyalty to increased profits.
Why exactly would I keep jobs in the US paying workers 10 bucks and hour when I can shift all factory production to a low cost country such as china ... where they pay their workers like 50 ¢ and hour. On top of that I dont know what type of healthcare they provide, and I damn sure dont have to worry about unionization.

How do you compete with that.
Hell, If you are a big corporation who's smart of enough to take advantage of every tax incentive available to where you pay less taxes than an immigrant ... clearly profits are important to you.... So why would your loyalties lie within a country.

Might aswell go to another developing country with a 10-20% growth rate where people are buying shyt and set up shop their, Cause All we doing over here is paying on our under water mortgages.

So again.. what incentive is their for big businesses loyalty to remain stateside would be my question.
 
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heyslick;3068997 said:
Do actually think that this President cares about creating new jobs? also government jobs don't fix thing (s). FYI here's the kind of people President Obama hires to create NEW jobs....yeah for those people in china.

http://www.infowars.com/head-of-oba...ng-jobs-and-economic-infrastructure-to-china/

You mean like creating the stimulus plan(and cash for clunkers) that created some jobs?. :-\

Also if you think the government can not help/fix things you might be over looking the role things like roads ,pubic education, libraries, fire departments, police, water, and other such things have historically played in our society..
 
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heyslick;3069293 said:
Yeah just like them census jobs & all them shovel ready jobs that never really materialized. To make things even worse than they are already President Obama hires former GE executive to help out.....LMAO as he sends more and more jobs to China. Yeah this black man is really looking out for us....btw how's the employment rate doing within most/many black communities throughout America? Wonders about that black woman who thought Obama was gonna help her if she helped him get elected....& said she won't have TO worry about her mortgage and putting gas in her car.....YEAH! LADY he's helping alright.

They did materialize... It may not have been the greatest, but that what happens when 1/2 of it goes to tax cuts....

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/09/did-the-stimulus-create-jobs/
 
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heyslick;3069293 said:
Yeah just like them census jobs & all them shovel ready jobs that never really materialized. To make things even worse than they are already President Obama hires former GE executive to help out.....LMAO as he sends more and more jobs to China. Yeah this black man is really looking out for us....btw how's the employment rate doing within most/many black communities throughout America? Wonders about that black woman who thought Obama was gonna help her if she helped him get elected....& said she won't have TO worry about her mortgage and putting gas in her car.....YEAH! LADY he's helping alright.

you keep saying "HE" sends more and more jobs to china as if there are not CEO's who are making the business decisions to send them there first

as if there aren't a line of politicians ahead of him making job decisions in each of the 50 states

nobody "sends" jobs away, but its a shame that the jobs we need aren't the central focus of debate because you niggas think that tax reform fixes everything
 
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http://theloop21.com/politics/membe...uldnt-lecture-us-fiscal-responsibility?page=2

The Most Financially Challenged Members of Congress

Allen West (R-FL)

Despite campaigning on his fiscal conservative bona fides, once writing for a local paper that “it was during my 22-years of active duty service where my skills were developed and refined in understanding fiscal responsibility” freshman firebrand Allen West has a negative net worth. According to OpenSecrets.org, once had a lien placed due to back taxes.

Ruben Hinojosa (D-TX)

Hinojosa, a member of the House Financial Services Committee, filed for bankruptcy in February, citing a loan he guaranteed on behalf of his family’s meat company that he was unable to repay to Wells Fargo Bank.

Joe Walsh (R-IL)

Despite campaigning as a Tea Party approved fiscal conservative, Walsh’s own financial history reads like a study in financial irresponsibility, including one foreclosure and multiple tax liens.

Tom Graves (R-GA)

Graves co-owns the company Tilch properties with fellow elected official, State Senator Chip Rogers, which was recently hit with a tax lien by the IRS
 
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Lawrence O'Donnell told his viewers he was banning Tea Party Rep. Joe Walsh from his show until the Republican pays the child support he owes his wife and children.

O'Donnell seemed seriously disgusted with Walsh, who has become something of a regular presence on television since the debt ceiling drama began roiling Washington. (Besides talking to O'Donnell, Walsh also had a memorably rowdy conversation with Chris Matthews.) He played a video of Walsh saying, "I won't place one more dollar of debt on the backs of my kids" before noting that Walsh owes those kids $117,347 in child support
 
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heyslick;3069516 said:
The Obama stimulus bill was supposed to create millions of shovel-ready jobs, which it didn't. He promised unemployment wouldn't go above 8 percent if it passed. I saw Obama on TV say the jobs weren't as shovel ready as he thought and then he laughed about it. That's insane. How could he joke about something like that. Also where are all them green jobs? OH I forgot China is now making solar panels -- undoubtedly they will be used on the white house roof.....Jimmy Carter tried using them while he was in office,they were removed. BTW Obama has mentioned bringing them back....but they won't be made in America...guess where?

you said no jobs were made. Which is a lie... there were jobs just not the number that they wished :-\
 
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heyslick;3069463 said:
Why do you insist on ignoring the obvious answer? This black man and his ideology along with his policies are destroying America. If this man ran a private entity like he's trying to run the country he would of been fired long ago. IMO he's all Talk without the action to back it up.

Obama says the deficit was on track to top $1 trillion the year he took office

In a televised address to the nation on July 25, 2011, to discuss the pending deadline on the debt ceiling, President Barack Obama laid out his version of how the deficit situation got to where it is. And Obama placed much of the blame at the feet of his predecessor, George W. Bush.

"For the last decade, we’ve spent more money than we take in," Obama said. "In the year 2000, the government had a budget surplus. But instead of using it to pay off our debt, the money was spent on trillions of dollars in new tax cuts, while two wars and an expensive prescription drug program were simply added to our nation’s credit card.

"As a result, the deficit was on track to top $1 trillion the year I took office."

We've dealt with the "what-Obama-inherited" question before. Obama's suggestion that the deficit woes the country now faces are the result of Bush's tax cuts and an expensive prescription drug program -- rather than the recession -- is certainly debatable. But since many Republicans are blaming the problem on reckless spending by Obama, we decided to check his claim that "the deficit was on track to top $1 trillion the year I took office."

In January, 2009, just prior to Obama being sworn in as president, the government's nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) released an estimate of the projected deficit for the 2009 fiscal year (which straddled both Bush's and Obama's terms).

According to the CBO report, "The ongoing turmoil in the housing and financial markets has taken a major toll on the federal budget. CBO currently projects that the deficit this year will total $1.2 trillion, or 8.3 percent of GDP."

The CBO cited a number of factors for why the federal fiscal situation would be "dramatically worse" in 2009 than 2008.

According to the CBO, "A drop in tax revenues and increased federal spending (much of it related to the government’s actions to address the crisis in the housing and financial markets) both contribute to the robust growth in this year’s deficit. Compared with receipts last year, collections from corporate income taxes are anticipated to decline by 27 percent and individual income taxes by 8 percent; in normal economic conditions, they would both grow by several percentage points. In addition, the estimated deficit includes outlays of more than $180 billion to reflect the cost of transactions of the TARP."

In addition, the CBO noted, as a result of the recession, the federal government boosted spending on programs such as those providing unemployment compensation and nutrition assistance.

Again, this was the deficit projection for 2009 before Obama took office. The CBO acknowledged it might get worse.

"That total ($1.2 trillion deficit), however, does not include the effects of any future legislation," the CBO noted. "Enactment of an economic stimulus package, for example, would add to the 2009 deficit."

As we know, of course, the Democrat-controlled Congress did pass a massive economic stimulus package. And, in fact, due in large part to the stimulus, the actual deficit for 2009 ended up about $200 billion more than the CBO projected in January 2009.

An April study from the Pew Charitable Trust found that a combination of factors -- increased government spending, tax cuts and the economic downturn -- were mostly to blame for the large budget deficits.

But Dean Baker, a liberal economist and co-director of the center for Economic Policy Research, argued in a piece published on the Huffington Post on July 27, 2011, that it's really the recession, and not any policy decisions from the Bush presidency, that are to blame for the unsustainable deficit projections. If the unemployment rate returned to the 4.7 percent rate of 2007, he wrote, the bulk of the deficit would disappear.

To lay the budget crisis on Bush tax cuts is misleading, Baker wrote.

"In its budget projections from January 2008, the last set before the impact of the collapse of the housing bubble was clear, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projected a deficit of just $198 billion for 2009," Baker wrote. "This is less than one-fifth of the 'on track to top $1 trillion' figure that President Obama gave in his speech. This is a serious error.

Rather, Baker wrote, "It was the recession, and the response to it, that pushed the deficit in 2009 from the $198 billion projected by CBO to the over $1 trillion noted by President Obama in his speech."

"No one can justify wasting money on wars that should not have been fought, giving away tax breaks to people who don't need them, or deliberately designing a prescription drug benefit so that it needlessly hands hundreds of billions of dollars to drug companies and insurers," Baker wrote. "But even with all of this waste, the deficit was still not out of control."

We're not going to wade into the debate over how much of the deficit to assign to Bush or Obama's policies. Obama may be laying too much blame for the deficit crisis on Bush policies, and not enough on the recession. But the economic downturn was in full bloom when Obama took office and he is correct that before he enacted any policies as president, the CBO projected a 2009 deficit of $1.2 trillion (as well as significant projected deficits in years to come as well). We rate his statement True.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...says-deficit-was-track-top-1-trillion-year-h/
 
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Why do you all entertain Hey Slick....he can't even keep the word "black" out his post when we're discussing nothing regarding race....

He's gone into full blown racist troll mode.....

 
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edeeesq;3070074 said:
Why do you all entertain Hey Slick....he can't even keep the word "black" out his post when we're discussing nothing regarding race....

He's gone into full blown racist troll mode.....


I use him as practice.

His stupidity actually helps foster my need to learn more. It forces me to educate myself to a better level of understanding.
 
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heyslick;3069581 said:
Here's some interesting facts about solar panels -- (buyer beware)

Nothing Wrong with Chinese Solar Panels

June 21, 2011 By Jay Leopold, SkyPower Leave a Comment

Let’s make sure that we all are on the same page here. There is nothing wrong with solar panels made in China. They are not necessarily made poorly. They don’t have bad components and the workmanship is not shoddy or incomplete. You can buy them and put them on your roof with as much confidence as any other solar panel made in any other part of the world.

However, the vast majority of Chinese solar panels are polycrystalline and that means that by their very nature, the performance will be on the low side of the scale. This is why they are so low cost. Buying these is a choice. You are choosing low cost at the beginning and higher costs over the long run. It would be the same if you purchased polycrystalline panels from the US or Europe. It’s not the maker that’s the problem, it’s the technology.

The Chinese government has made a decided push into the solar panel market. They subsidize their manufacturers so we can all buy their panels for what in some cases in actually less than it costs them to make them. In a way, it’s sort of like they are giving us back some of our own money if we keep their population employed. It helps their people and hurts ours … but that’s the point.

Remember that solar panels are made of parts … cells, frames, laminate, electronics and wires. Even if the panels are “made” in the US, the parts are not. And “Made in the USA” is a bit of a misnomer. Perhaps we should label things, “Assembled in the USA out of Foreign Parts.” Almost all, if not all of the parts are made in Asia and them shipped here to be put together by Americans so that the manufacturer can say to the US Government that the thing was made here. As Ross Perot said about “that sucking sound,” our good jobs are gone and now all we are left with are low-end assembly jobs … and even those are leaving.

Anyway, the problem with Chinese panels is that they are polycrystalline, which is the oldest and least productive technology. These panels lose 7% of their oomph in the first 100 days and then another 0.5% every year thereafter. The spectrum of light that they capture is the narrowest of the group so the efficiency is poor from the start.

… But they are cheap! And even the SkyPower engineers have to admit that a cheap solar panel is a lot better than no solar panel and since cost seems to be important these days and most folks don’t have any solar panels, Chinese panels are a perfectly great way to go.

The best way to go … no … but an okay way to go … and zillion times better than not going at all!

Does anybody here really believe that slick has a clue what this guy is talking about?

Seriously he is like a retarded Nazi. Hitler would have threw him over the cliff as baby like the dudes in 300.
 
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tru_m.a.c;3066189 said:
not to mention all of y'all are talking about this debt to gdp ratio shit without taking into account that once the bush tax cuts expire, it relieves the economy of an unnecessary burden

maybe im wrong but youre not mentioning that the bush tax cuts are FOR EVERYONE, not just the rich.

so whats gonna happen is this:

even if obama wins (which honestly, i still think he will), more than likely the house and the senate wont go dem (or dem enough), so he wont be able to pass a bill to only raise it for those who make over 250k. not with blue dogs around.

republicans do the same thing that happened last dec. obama more than likely caves because the republicans hold their ground, tax cuts for everyone get extended.

or

if obama loses, tax cuts expire, everyones taxes get raised for a few months or weeks even, new republican president does some shit to bring them back right after his inauguration.

once again, since dems will not own both houses more than likely, bill passes, bush tax cuts come back.

either way i dont think taxes are going up for anyone any time soon.
 
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heyslick;3070988 said:
What's wrong ms! edeeesq can't practice what you preach? YOU KNOW you just love to play me for your own little self righteous charade that you think your playing on me. I'll say whatever the fuck I wanna say and you can just ignore or play this pussy-ass pretend game of yours again. Higher damn scores don't make any person better than the other, character is really what matters.

You're losing it slick....that topic was in a different thread. This one is about politics....and you're still bringing up black people....

I know its hard for you, but stop derailing the thread and stay on topic....

I don't ignore you, I treat you like I treat most special ed people....with sympathy.
 
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onepunch;3065740 said:
these dummies don't realize Obama just pulled a fast one on them...laugh Now..Cry Later...wait till November after Obama is re-elected and the Bush Tax cuts expire...the spending cuts made in the Boener Bill don't even take palce untill the end of 2012 and the Busch tax cuts expire Jan 2013....watch all the Tea Party Senators get voted outta office during the election and Democrats take over the house and the Senate and the Presidency...

I don't support any political party cause political activism and voting is a waste of time. What government says/does don't make us or break us.

While I gotcha on the line: from JL Peterson:

http://www.sodahead.com/united-stat...or-daring-to-post-this-blog/question-2036125/

Say a hurricane is about to destroy the city you live in. Two questions:
What would you do?
What would you do if you were black?

Sadly, the two questions don't have the same answer.

To the first: Most of us would take our families out of that city quickly to protect them from danger. Then, able-bodied men would return to help others in need, as wives and others cared for children, elderly, infirm and the like.

For better or worse, Hurricane Katrina has told us the answer to the second question. If you're black and a hurricane is about to destroy your city, you'll probably wait for the government to save you.

This was not always the case. Prior to 40 years ago, such a pathetic performance by the black community in a time of crisis would have been inconceivable. The first response would have come from black men.
They would take care of their families, bring them to safety, and then help the rest of the community. Then local government would come in.

No longer. When 75 percent of New Orleans residents had left the city,
It was primarily immoral, welfare-pampered blacks that stayed behind
And waited for the government to bail them out. This, as we know, did not turn out good results.

Enter Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan. Jackson and Farrakhan laid blame on 'racist' President Bush. Farrakhan actually proposed the idea that the government blew up a levee so as to kill blacks and save whites. The two demanded massive governmental spending to rebuild New Orleans
Above and beyond the federal government's proposed $60 billion. Not only that, these two were positioning themselves as the gatekeepers to supervise the dispersion of funds. Perfect: 'Two of the most dishonest elite blacks in America ,' overseeing billions of dollars. I wonder where that money will end up.

Of course, if these two were really serious about laying blame on government, they should blame the local one. Responsibility to perform legally and practically fell first on the mayor of New Orleans . We are now all familiar with Mayor Ray Nagin the black who likes to yell at President Bush for failing to do Nagin's job. The facts, unfortunately do not support Nagin's wailing. As the Washington Times puts it, 'recent reports show [Nagin] failed to follow through on his own city's emergency-response plan,
Which acknowledged that thousands of the city's poorest residents would have no way to evacuate the city.'

One wonders how there was 'no way' for these people to evacuate the city. We have photographic evidence telling us otherwise. You've probably seen it by now the photo showing 2,000 parked school buses, unused and underwater. How much planning does it require to put people on a bus and leave town, Mayor Nagin?

Instead of doing the obvious, Mayor Nagin (with no positive contribution from Gov. Kathleen Blanco, the other major leader vested with responsibility to address the hurricane disaster) loaded remaining new Orleans residents into the Superdome and the city's convention center.
We know how that plan turned out.

About five years ago, in a debate before the National Association of Black Journalists, I stated that if whites were to just leave the United States and let blacks run the country, they would turn America into a ghetto within 10 years. The audience, shall we say, disagreed with me strongly. Now I have to disagree with me. I gave blacks too much credit. It took a mere three days for blacks to turn the Superdome and the convention center into ghettos, rampant with theft, rape and murder.

President Bush is not to blame for the rampant immorality of blacks.
Had New Orleans ' black community taken action, most would have been out of harm's way. But most were too lazy, immoral and trifling to do anything productive for themselves.

All Americans must tell blacks this truth. It was blacks' moral poverty, not their material poverty, that cost them dearly in New Orleans .
Farrakhan, Jackson, and other race hustlers are to be repudiated
For they will only perpetuate this problem by stirring up hatred and applauding moral corruption. New Orleans , to the extent it is to be rebuilt, should be remade into a dependency-free, morally strong city where corruption is opposed and success is applauded. Blacks are obligated to help themselves and not depend on the government to care for them.
We are all obligated to tell them so.

The Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson is founder and president of BOND,
the Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny, and author of 'Scam: How the Black Leadership Exploits Black America.'
 
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jonas.dini said:
I agree with some of what you're saying about long term trends, but I totally disagree with the notions that taxes can't be raised, and anyway Obama isn't supposed to be advocating libertarian or Republican economic policy, that's not the platform he was elected on.

well the president can't raise taxes anyway, that's congresses job. That said, I would much prefer a tax raise to increased debt, and I prefer either of those to more inflation. But the last thing we need is more taxes. That's more money going to a wasteful government, and less capital for the economy to reinvest. COuld write paragraphs on that.

tru_m.a.c said:
what...are you serious...do you realize governments run on debt...not all debt is bad

Totally serious. Governments do run on debt because it lets politicans(and kings) spend more than they could via upfront taxation. Same reason why governments love to inflate. less political risk than upfront taxes, and the public is too slow to understand what is happening to them.

Not all debt is bad, but I would argue ALL government debt is bad. If the spending is necessary(and wanted), just have a vote on a tax increase. That's the least harmful way to fund the government. Government debt still gives us higher taxes PLUS we have to pay back the interest, and it creates a very politicized group of voters(if domestic) or potentially entangling affairs(if foreign bond holders). The worst of all worlds is inflation via the banking system, which is the method of choice these days, naturally.

Government debt has several problems that differieniate it from private debt. Firstly, the people taking the loan out aren't the ones that pay for it. This creates a terrible incentive problem, especially in democratic regimes where leaders don't have a particular long term investment in fiscal responsibility. It's almost somewhat immoral for the children and grandchildren of present voters/politicians to be responsible for rolled over debt incurred by their grandsires.

Economically, government debt depresses the private debt market, causing capital dislocation, and further encourages government enlargement and spending, plus interest. Simply creating a government debt market causes many players to get in it, as government debts are usually pretty safe, collected violently(especially internationally), give rise to all sorts of political corruption, which we are enjoying right now.

The founding generation except for very specific individuals were extremely distrustful of government debt, for very good reasons.
 
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earth two superman;3071368 said:
maybe im wrong but youre not mentioning that the bush tax cuts are FOR EVERYONE, not just the rich.

so whats gonna happen is this:

even if obama wins (which honestly, i still think he will), more than likely the house and the senate wont go dem (or dem enough), so he wont be able to pass a bill to only raise it for those who make over 250k. not with blue dogs around.

republicans do the same thing that happened last dec. obama more than likely caves because the republicans hold their ground, tax cuts for everyone get extended.

or

if obama loses, tax cuts expire, everyones taxes get raised for a few months or weeks even, new republican president does some shit to bring them back right after his inauguration.

once again, since dems will not own both houses more than likely, bill passes, bush tax cuts come back.

either way i dont think taxes are going up for anyone any time soon.

I don't care about raising the taxes. I don't care about progressing my ideals right now. We need to get the economy back to 2008 when unemployment was at 4.7%. Even WITH the bush tax cuts back then, we were only 189 billion passed budget. We need to get back to those levels before we talk about our progressive ideas.

Ideas which I agree with btw

But my main point is, money talks, don't worry about the bush tax cuts cause they really didn't bankrupt us. We gotta get out this recession.
 
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edeeesq;3071490 said:
You're losing it slick....that topic was in a different thread. This one is about politics....and you're still bringing up black people....

I know its hard for you, but stop derailing the thread and stay on topic....

I don't ignore you, I treat you like I treat most special ed people....with sympathy.

true shit spoken
 
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John Prewett;3072444 said:
I don't support any political party cause political activism and voting is a waste of time. What government says/does don't make us or break us.

While I gotcha on the line: from JL Peterson:

http://www.sodahead.com/united-stat...or-daring-to-post-this-blog/question-2036125/

Say a hurricane is about to destroy the city you live in. Two questions:
What would you do?
What would you do if you were black?

Sadly, the two questions don't have the same answer.

To the first: Most of us would take our families out of that city quickly to protect them from danger. Then, able-bodied men would return to help others in need, as wives and others cared for children, elderly, infirm and the like.

For better or worse, Hurricane Katrina has told us the answer to the second question. If you're black and a hurricane is about to destroy your city, you'll probably wait for the government to save you.

This was not always the case. Prior to 40 years ago, such a pathetic performance by the black community in a time of crisis would have been inconceivable. The first response would have come from black men.
They would take care of their families, bring them to safety, and then help the rest of the community. Then local government would come in.

No longer. When 75 percent of New Orleans residents had left the city,
It was primarily immoral, welfare-pampered blacks that stayed behind
And waited for the government to bail them out. This, as we know, did not turn out good results.

Enter Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan. Jackson and Farrakhan laid blame on 'racist' President Bush. Farrakhan actually proposed the idea that the government blew up a levee so as to kill blacks and save whites. The two demanded massive governmental spending to rebuild New Orleans
Above and beyond the federal government's proposed $60 billion. Not only that, these two were positioning themselves as the gatekeepers to supervise the dispersion of funds. Perfect: 'Two of the most dishonest elite blacks in America ,' overseeing billions of dollars. I wonder where that money will end up.

Of course, if these two were really serious about laying blame on government, they should blame the local one. Responsibility to perform legally and practically fell first on the mayor of New Orleans . We are now all familiar with Mayor Ray Nagin the black who likes to yell at President Bush for failing to do Nagin's job. The facts, unfortunately do not support Nagin's wailing. As the Washington Times puts it, 'recent reports show [Nagin] failed to follow through on his own city's emergency-response plan,
Which acknowledged that thousands of the city's poorest residents would have no way to evacuate the city.'

One wonders how there was 'no way' for these people to evacuate the city. We have photographic evidence telling us otherwise. You've probably seen it by now the photo showing 2,000 parked school buses, unused and underwater. How much planning does it require to put people on a bus and leave town, Mayor Nagin?

Instead of doing the obvious, Mayor Nagin (with no positive contribution from Gov. Kathleen Blanco, the other major leader vested with responsibility to address the hurricane disaster) loaded remaining new Orleans residents into the Superdome and the city's convention center.
We know how that plan turned out.

About five years ago, in a debate before the National Association of Black Journalists, I stated that if whites were to just leave the United States and let blacks run the country, they would turn America into a ghetto within 10 years. The audience, shall we say, disagreed with me strongly. Now I have to disagree with me. I gave blacks too much credit. It took a mere three days for blacks to turn the Superdome and the convention center into ghettos, rampant with theft, rape and murder.

President Bush is not to blame for the rampant immorality of blacks.
Had New Orleans ' black community taken action, most would have been out of harm's way. But most were too lazy, immoral and trifling to do anything productive for themselves.

All Americans must tell blacks this truth. It was blacks' moral poverty, not their material poverty, that cost them dearly in New Orleans .
Farrakhan, Jackson, and other race hustlers are to be repudiated
For they will only perpetuate this problem by stirring up hatred and applauding moral corruption. New Orleans , to the extent it is to be rebuilt, should be remade into a dependency-free, morally strong city where corruption is opposed and success is applauded. Blacks are obligated to help themselves and not depend on the government to care for them.
We are all obligated to tell them so.

The Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson is founder and president of BOND,
the Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny, and author of 'Scam: How the Black Leadership Exploits Black America.'
lol I always like when people act like some how black people were not poor and f***ed up before 1980...
Blacks were just as bad off then, AND they could not apply for government programs...
 
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heyslick;3069516 said:
The Obama stimulus bill was supposed to create millions of shovel-ready jobs, which it didn't. He promised unemployment wouldn't go above 8 percent if it passed. I saw Obama on TV say the jobs weren't as shovel ready as he thought and then he laughed about it. That's insane. How could he joke about something like that. Also where are all them green jobs? OH I forgot China is now making solar panels -- undoubtedly they will be used on the white house roof.....Jimmy Carter tried using them while he was in office,they were removed. BTW Obama has mentioned bringing them back....but they won't be made in America...guess where?

well seeing that all the Republican Governors refused to accept the stimulus money....your statement is not a fair assesment....Florida's governor turned down $4 billion dollars that was to be used to construct a high speed rail system and would have put close to 9k construction workers to work......I love how the republicans refuse help and then claim Obama isn't helping.....
 
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