How many poster support the dumbass TEA PARTY?

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I'm so sick of people saying obama won "this" and lost "that". Fuck what those idiots due in the W.H. This country is ruled by corporations and big banks.
 
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Jonas.dini;3065877 said:
I'm definitely a not teabagger... but Obama ain't played nobody

when the group of 12 (6 dem 6 rep) get together to figure out the rest of the cuts....medicaide, medicare, and ss are proteted and off the table....revunues and fixing the loop holes is fair game...who played who?
 
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onepunch;3065983 said:
when the group of 12 (6 dem 6 rep) get together to figure out the rest of the cuts....medicaide, medicare, and ss are proteted and off the table....revunues and fixing the loop holes is fair game...who played who?

lol its only 7 -21 billion in cuts the first yr. lol republicans got played.
 
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Tea Party has many great themes, unfortunately their leadership got hijacked about 4 years ago and has been steered into silly, divisive areas on purpose.

No grass roots movement will save America, only fiscal reality will change anything.

i'm pretty sure before my death, I will see the United States splinter into several countries.
 
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onepunch;3065983 said:
when the group of 12 (6 dem 6 rep) get together to figure out the rest of the cuts....medicaide, medicare, and ss are proteted and off the table....revunues and fixing the loop holes is fair game...who played who?

Why would the Democrats be all gung ho about cutting spending when debt as a % of GDP isn't even in the danger zone? Why are the Dems advocates of cutting the deficit and cutting spending (no revenue increases btw) instead of creating jobs? Answer is that they've been manipulated into adopting a Republican paradigm for economic policy... so who played who dunny?
 
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Jonas.dini;3066112 said:
Why would the Democrats be all gung ho about cutting spending when debt as a % of GDP isn't even in the danger zone? Why are the Dems advocates of cutting the deficit and cutting spending (no revenue increases btw) instead of creating jobs? Answer is that they've been manipulated into adopting a Republican paradigm for economic policy... so who played who dunny?

debt to gdp is like 70-80% thats not good homie, only reason interest rates are low

is because europe is fucking up right now
 
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politicalthug202;3066121 said:
debt to gdp is like 70-80% thats not good homie, only reason interest rates are low
is because europe is fucking up right now

70% of GDP in a dollarized global economy is not the danger zone.

But since you're so concerned about debt how bout some tax increases? I thought that was on the agenda?
 
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What level is the danger zone? Any level you pick will be totally arbitrary.

Any government debt is a political danger zone because it's a way for politicians to spend more upfront without having to answer to the public about tax policy. Then after it's spent, they guilt trip us about "honoring debts."

It should be illegal by pain of death, torture and other cuddly things for a politician to even PROPOSE government debt or taxation through inflation. Which, interestingly, was actually proposed back in 1789. It almost got proposed as an amendment to the constitution.

The global economy btw is becoming increasingly NON dollarized. The petro-dollar is on its last legs. And when that end comes, America will experience the full brunt of all the inflation we currently export to asia
 
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Sh0t;3066137 said:
What level is the danger zone? Any level you pick will be totally arbitrary.

Any government debt is a political danger zone because it's a way for politicians to spend more upfront without having to answer to the public about tax policy. Then after it's spent, they guilt trip us about "honoring debts."

It should be illegal by pain of death, torture and other cuddly things for a politician to even PROPOSE government debt or taxation through inflation. Which, interestingly, was actually proposed back in 1789. It almost got proposed as an amendment to the constitution.

The global economy btw is becoming increasingly NON dollarized. The petro-dollar is on its last legs. And when that end comes, America will experience the full brunt of all the inflation we currently export to asia

I agree with some of what you're saying about long term trends, but I totally disagree with the notions that taxes can't be raised, and anyway Obama isn't supposed to be advocating libertarian or Republican economic policy, that's not the platform he was elected on.
 
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Sh0t;3066137 said:
What level is the danger zone? Any level you pick will be totally arbitrary.

Any government debt is a political danger zone because it's a way for politicians to spend more upfront without having to answer to the public about tax policy. Then after it's spent, they guilt trip us about "honoring debts."

It should be illegal by pain of death, torture and other cuddly things for a politician to even PROPOSE government debt or taxation through inflation. Which, interestingly, was actually proposed back in 1789. It almost got proposed as an amendment to the constitution.

The global economy btw is becoming increasingly NON dollarized. The petro-dollar is on its last legs. And when that end comes, America will experience the full brunt of all the inflation we currently export to asia

smh

what...are you serious...do you realize governments run on debt...not all debt is bad

secondly, it doesn't make sense that the only way to keep politicians from spending is by hurting those who would benefit from said spending....if we have to enact draconian cuts to deal with human error, then get rid of those humans....thats what elections are for
 
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not to mention all of y'all are talking about this debt to gdp ratio shit without taking into account that once the bush tax cuts expire, it relieves the economy of an unnecessary burden
 
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Is it just me, or does this seem like the worst idea ever? How does cutting the funding for those who have been out of work for an extended period of time help the economy? I only ask because if they can't afford to buy food and clothing and pay their bills, won't someone else lose their job? I know personally that you cannot live off unemployment, but you can survive until you find a job. All the money from unemployment goes right back into the system. Didn't we do this in the 30's? Look where that got us.
 
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tru_m.a.c;3066189 said:
not to mention all of y'all are talking about this debt to gdp ratio shit without taking into account that once the bush tax cuts expire, it relieves the economy of an unnecessary burden

they skipping over that part..
 
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In the grand scheme of things, the Tea Party did get played pretty badly. But so did the American people. 4 trillion dollars in cuts is good, but without any tax increases on the rich, this is going to hurt the middle and working class badly. States are going to get even less money now, so expect many govt services to be slashed or cut completely. Everything is on the table now, SS and other aid for the disabled or elderly/those out of work is gonna be cut back. The cutting in spending is cool but we're still going to be fighting 3 wars that are bankrupting us, while many teachers and other govt workers are definitely going to lose their jobs.

The Tea Party did win more than the American people though, their love for endless wars and bankrupting the nation through tax cuts for the rich will continue.
 
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MeTaL;3066341 said:
Is it just me, or does this seem like the worst idea ever? How does cutting the funding for those who have been out of work for an extended period of time help the economy? I only ask because if they can't afford to buy food and clothing and pay their bills, won't someone else lose their job? I know personally that you cannot live off unemployment, but you can survive until you find a job. All the money from unemployment goes right back into the system. Didn't we do this in the 30's? Look where that got us.
it doesn't...

It does how ever make rich people happy that they will be keeping their own money... :-\
 
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kingblaze84;3068263 said:
Also no plan to create jobs in this deal.....very sad!

there are only 2 ways they can create jobs...

A: government jobs where people fix things that are broken...

B: Give the middle class money/incentive to buy certain products, and they create a demand on products that force companies to employ more people....

Republican's aren't for either one.
 
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