How is Manning Betta Than Brady??????

[Maalik]

I've always been a big Peyton fan, especially since he's from New Orleans. And I've always been a Brady fan, not so much as a fan but he really earned my respect because I had a lot of doubts and thought he was going to be a 1hit wonder lol. You know these two quarterbacks are great when people are still arguing this for the about 5-6 years now.

The way I see it I still give the edge to Brady for now but if Peyton wins this one it'll bring the argument a lot closer. Now when most people bring titles to the picture nobody insinuating that all that matter is rings and Dilfer>>>Marino. The point is when you have two players that are on the same level as each other you have to find things that separates one from the other. Are rings the only deciding factor? Hell no, I think you should throw in talent, numbers, and impact to the picture aswell.

The knock on Peyton was that he couldn't win the big one and he chokes in the playoffs. Well he silenced all the naysayers in 06 when they won it all and defeated the pats in the afc title game. And he's in the big game again. The only knock on Peyton you can really point at is his postseason performances. 6 times they been knocked out of the playoffs their first game and 3 of them they've had a first round bye. This franchise has more wins in a decade than any franchise in nfl history and they finished with atleast 12 wins countless of times. It's mind boggling that how great he is he struggled in the post season that much, even during his championship run he threw for 3td's and 7 int's.

For years the argument has been if Peyton had the defense he would have as many super bowls as Brady and if Brady has had the weapons as Peyton he would put up great statistics as Peyton. Both has been proven to be accurate. Brady finally have top tier receivers and Manning finally has a defense he can rely on the past few seasons. You can argue it both ways but you can't discredit how much both of these guys mean to each other franchises.

Far as numbers go you can't knock Peyton numbers , but trying to compare it to Brady's is pretty unfair considering Brady has only played 8 full seasons. 2000 he didn't start and 2008 he missed the entire year. Let's take a look at the comparison.

Peyton started 12 full season, has thrown for 50,128 yards, 366 td's, and has a qb rating of 95.2.

Brady has started 8 full seasons, thrown for 30,844 yards, 225 td's, and rating is 93.3.

Judging off of the past two seasons you can see how much of an impact having great talent at the receiving position can do for a great qb. Both compliment each other.

Brady has thrown for 78 td's, 21 int's, 9,204 yards and rating has been 106.7. So just for fun by averaging it out he would be averaging 39 td's, 10.5 int's, 4600 yards per season. If you take away 4 seasons from Peyton Manning to equal it out to Brady's he would only have 33,418.6 yards and 244 td's in 8 seasons. So by looking at that the numbers they are pretty close and the big disparity in talent isn't as wide as a gap as people think it is when going off of statistics and also take in consideration Brady was throwing to 3rd and 4th option receivers 3/4th of his career. So in a nutshell it's pretty equal when you balance it all out.

But at the end of the day who's better? I really can't say. But if you ask me who would I want to lead my franchise to titles I'd give the slight edge to Brady.

Oh man..........you my nigga. No Homo. You my nigga. Finally somebody in here who know what the fuck he talking about. My man.

Niggas in here saying Brady was a System QB & Just a "Trent Dilfer" & a Glorified Game Manager. Like Really? Cmon Son. 3 Rings. Dynasty of The Patriots. Cmon Son. Tom Brady. Who ALL Anaylists consider to be #2 or #1b to Joe Montana & These niggas on here saying he a "Game Manager" BWWAaaaaahahahahahhahahahahha. Seriously.

Not only Has Brady Accomplished more than Peyton, he did so in less time, at an earlier point in his career & without much help offensively. I dont understand how ppl dont understand that. How can someone Win 3 Rings in his first 5 Years, Be the top QB for years & Basically run the NFL playoffs in his first few years but, not be better than someone who took 10 Years to win his first championship, was a habitual choker & only has 1 ring to show for his career. PEOPLE ON HERE SAYING PEYTON DIDNT HAVE ANY DEFENSE DURING HIS EARLIER CAREER, BUT, I SPECIFICALLY REMEMBER PEYTON LOSING THEM GAMES, ESPECIALLY VS. THE JETS in 2002 41-0 ONLY PASSING FOR 137 YARDS. He couldnt get past the Patriots for Years in The Playoffs. HOW DOES THAT MAKE HIM BETTER. ITS JUST NOT MATCHING UP WHEN YOU LOOK AT FACTS.

Passing Stats

YEAR TEAM G CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT RAT

2000 NWE 1 1 3 33.3 6 2.0 0 6 0 42.4

2001 NWE 15 264 413 63.9 2843 6.9 18 91 12 86.5

2002 NWE 16 373 601 62.1 3764 6.3 28 49 14 85.7

2003 NWE 16 317 527 60.2 3620 6.9 23 82 12 85.9

2004 NWE 16 288 474 60.8 3692 7.8 28 50 14 92.6

2005 NWE 16 334 530 63.0 4110 7.8 26 71 14 92.3

2006 NWE 16 319 516 61.8 3529 6.8 24 62 12 87.9

2007 NWE 16 398 578 68.9 4806 8.3 50 69 8 117.2

2008 NWE 1 7 11 63.6 76 6.9 0 26 0 83.9

2009 NWE 16 371 565 65.7 4398 7.8 28 81 13 96.2

Career 129 2672 4218 63.3 30844 7.3 225 91 99 93.3

Passing Stats

YEAR TEAM G CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT RAT

1998 IND 16 326 575 56.7 3739 6.5 26 78 28 71.2

1999 IND 16 331 533 62.1 4135 7.8 26 80 15 90.7

2000 IND 16 357 571 62.5 4413 7.7 33 78 15 94.7

2001 IND 16 343 547 62.7 4131 7.6 26 86 23 84.1

2002 IND 16 392 591 66.3 4200 7.1 27 69 19 88.8

2003 IND 16 379 566 67.0 4267 7.5 29 79 10 99.0

2004 IND 16 336 497 67.6 4557 9.2 49 80 10 121.1

2005 IND 16 305 453 67.3 3747 8.3 28 80 10 104.1

2006 IND 16 362 557 65.0 4397 7.9 31 68 9 101.0

2007 IND 16 337 515 65.4 4040 7.8 31 73 14 98.0

2008 IND 16 371 555 66.8 4002 7.2 27 75 12 95.0

2009 IND 16 393 571 68.8 4500 7.9 33 80 16 99.9

Career 192 4232 6531 64.8 50128 7.7 366 86 181 95.2

Yall Niggas must be looking at the wrong stats.......them shits is damn near equal. Then when you consider the fact Brady Won 3 Times.....I dont get where yall are coming from. then niggas in here saying, since Matt Cassel took the Patriots 11-5, Brady isnt that good because of what Cassel did. THE PATRIOTS IN 2008, HAD ONE OF THE MOST LOADED TEAMS OF ALL TIME, RYAN LEAF COULDVE TOOK THAT TEAM 11-5, THEY HAD RANDY MOSS, WES WELKER, MAROONEY & A SHITLOAD OF OTHER TALENTED PLAYERS. DOES THAT MAKE BRADY ANY LESS OF A SUPERSTAR...........NO!!!!!! BECAUSE WHEN HE WON ALL OF THEM RINGS..........HE DIDNT HAVE ANY OF THEM STARS ON HIS TEAM, IT WAS ALL ON HIM................IM SURE MOST OF YALL LIKE BASKETBALL & WATCH IT REGULARLY & MOST LIKELY BELIEVE MICHAEL JORDAN WAS THE BEST PLAYER TO WALK THIS PLANET. BUT, COULDNT YOU SAY HE WASNT THE BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME, SINCE SCOTTIE PIPPEN TOOK THE BULLS 65-17 & TO THE DEEP PLAYOFFS WHEN MICHAEL JORDAN RETIRED?????? I MEAN THAT WAS YOUR ARGUMENT. KINDA STUPID WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT IN THOSE TERMS???

 

[Chef_Taylor]

if the patriots didnt have adam vinatieri they wouldnt have won 3 rings true enough brady helped get them there but in 2001 they should have lost to the raiders in that tuck rule game and that year when they went to the super bowl vinatieri made the game winning field goal..in 03 the panthers would have won if it wasnt for another vinatieri field goal and in 04 mcnabb played one good half and laid down in the second half i dont think the patriots win that game if mcnabb would have played to his full potential.. the patriots w/o brady= unheard of matt cassell took the team to a 11-5 season-- colts w/o peyton manning= a below .500 team manning>>>>>>>brady

 

[Maalik]

if the patriots didnt have adam vinatieri they wouldnt have won 3 rings true enough brady helped get them there but in 2001 they should have lost to the raiders in that tuck rule game and that year when they went to the super bowl vinatieri made the game winning field goal..in 03 the panthers would have won if it wasnt for another vinatieri field goal and in 04 mcnabb played one good half and laid down in the second half i dont think the patriots win that game if mcnabb would have played to his full potential.. the patriots w/o brady= unheard of matt cassell took the team to a 11-5 season-- colts w/o peyton manning= a below .500 team manning>>>>>>>brady

what ifs.........doesnt matter man. they did win. close thread.

for matt cassel going 11-5 = Micheal Jordan Retired. Scottie Pippen & The Bulls went 65-17 without Jordan. Stop talkin if you not gonna read shit. You sound stupid.

 

[young silk]

I personally like Brady more, just cuz I hate Peyton and the Colts, However.....

Peyton is certainly more talented than Brady. The knock on Manning was that he couldn't win the BIG game. However, he's starting to shake that problem, he's already got one ring, and now he's back in the Superbowl. If he wins the Superbowl, as much as I can't stand him I'd have to put him over Brady. cuz Brady's first Superbowl he was just a game manager. Granted since then he's been 1A or 1B at his Position. If the Patriots had won the Superbowl in 07 there would be nothing that Manning could do that would've made me pick him over Brady, but as for now they remain at 1A and 1B in the game

 

[kAjUn]

I personally like Brady more, just cuz I hate Peyton and the Colts, However.....

Peyton is certainly more talented than Brady. The knock on Manning was that he couldn't win the BIG game. However, he's starting to shake that problem, he's already got one ring, and now he's back in the Superbowl. If he wins the Superbowl, as much as I can't stand him I'd have to put him over Brady. cuz Brady's first Superbowl he was just a game manager. Granted since then he's been 1A or 1B at his Position. If the Patriots had won the Superbowl in 07 there would be nothing that Manning could do that would've made me pick him over Brady, but as for now they remain at 1A and 1B in the game

Yea agreed, if Brady would've went undefeated with the year he had and went 4-0 in superbowls you couldn't help but hail him the goat.

Well....unless if you're a hata.

 

[ghost!]

But the thing is this..and yea right now manning is the best in the game, key word right now...nex season if brady is having a better season or gone further in the playoffs mannings name will not be mention..this happens every other season when this gets brought up..and ppl generally go with the QB that is hot at the moment or season..in 07 not one person was calling manning the goat..but all of a sudden he is...what if he wins....is he the goat?..ok and here's my main point ...both manning and brady's careers are far from over..what if brady wins another..so that's 4 sb rings to mannings 2, manning still the goat??....calling him the goat right now is just dumb..given the fact that his career aint even over yet nor no one knows what's gonna happen in the future

and brady was 2 mins away from winning his 4th and 19-0 str8...just 2 mins..that's impressive in itsself if u give it enough thought....and that's after the spy gate crap

and another thing Mannings fans forget....stats aside...the playoffs are where u make a name..cuz generally ur facing the best...so for all those who talk abotu brady's weak division or thumb down mannings plyoffs stats not being important think about that...one did it against the best 4 diff. times this decaded...the other won one ring..and finally has another chance to win another after how many seasons and mvps??

 

[tru_m.a.c]

It starts with this.....

im more inclined to say Brady is a system QB and won those rings based off of his team's D(which was top 5 each year they won it) and his coaches play-calling(both coordinators got HC jobs after winning SB's).

Ppl know the patriots are good without brady because of this

The Pats won 11 games with a guy who hadn't played football since high school. QUOTE]

You cannot deny this up until Randy Moss and Wes Welker appeared

Brady didnt carry those teams to superbowls... He was more of a game manager plus the reason he was even in 1 of those superbowls was bc of the tuck rule

You know espn loves their numbers

when manning is done playing i think hes gonna own all standing records for qb's

Oh yeah and stop believing the hype my dude....relax lol

But the thing is this..and yea right now manning is the best in the game, key word right now...nex season if brady is having a better season or gone further in the playoffs mannings name will not be mention..this happens every other season when this gets brought up..and ppl generally go with the QB that is hot at the moment or season

Also another thing I forgot is that the ONLY reason Brady vs Manning was a real competition was because Brady had the rings but Manning had all the stats. If you ask anybody who they would rather have on thier team Brady or Manning they are going with Manning. You include T/S and you know it lmao

 

[maximus preme]

Manning is the better individual quaterback. Brady has had better teams. At the end of the day football is a team game. Brady doesn't win any of his super bowls if they didn't have that Belichik defense. But if you take away their teams and just compare the two QBs Manning is better.

 

[Maalik]

But the thing is this..and yea right now manning is the best in the game, key word right now...nex season if brady is having a better season or gone further in the playoffs mannings name will not be mention..this happens every other season when this gets brought up..and ppl generally go with the QB that is hot at the moment or season..in 07 not one person was calling manning the goat..but all of a sudden he is...what if he wins....is he the goat?..ok and here's my main point ...both manning and brady's careers are far from over..what if brady wins another..so that's 4 sb rings to mannings 2, manning still the goat??....calling him the goat right now is just dumb..given the fact that his career aint even over yet nor no one knows what's gonna happen in the future

and brady was 2 mins away from winning his 4th and 19-0 str8...just 2 mins..that's impressive in itsself if u give it enough thought....and that's after the spy gate crap

and another thing Mannings fans forget....stats aside...the playoffs are where u make a name..cuz generally ur facing the best...so for all those who talk abotu brady's weak division or thumb down mannings plyoffs stats not being important think about that...one did it against the best 4 diff. times this decaded...the other won one ring..and finally has another chance to win another after how many seasons and mvps??

I Complete Agree..........someone, applaud this man.

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People tend to have a selective memory when looking at Peyton & Brady. One year it's Peyton,then the next year it's Brady. I spefically remember back in 2007..........NO ONE........and i mean no one wouldve came out of their mouths & say Tom Brady wasnt GOAT. But just a mere two years later...........he's garbage. smh.

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Unlike The Colts, The Patriots werent scared to go for 19-0 & came so damn close its maddening. Its fuckin disgusting that Brady was one interception away from The Best Dynasty of all fuckin time. I hate Eli for that shit but, I cant front, Eli played like Zeus, The God of Thunder that game lol. Anyway..........people forget how close Brady was to greatness & if he had got 4 rings........THIS CONVERSATION WOULD BE NULL & VOID. However, he didnt & real men dont ARGUE OVER IFS. The FACTS is Brady has 3 rings & Peyton will probably end up with 2 this year.....shortening the gap between them. However, I really dont think Tom's career is over by far. This year he wasnt the same tom because he was coming off of a major injury. we'll see next year.

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Tom Brady & Peyton Manning. Their Rivalry is like a Little Brother playing the Big Brother in Basketball. The Big Brother beats Lil Brother 15 Times throughout his life & The Lil Brother is never good enough to win & eventually he wins 2 games!!!!! After winning these 2 games, he & all of his friends, AUTOMATICALLY assumes he's better now.........NEVERMIND the fact that the Big brother beat him 15 times before. This relationship describes Brady & Manning from 2001 - now.

Manning's a good Quarterback & COULD be the best QB if Brady doesnt return to his old form but, AS OF NOW........TODAY.........UNLESS PEYTON GOES ON SUPER SAIYAN MODE & WINS 2-3 RINGS IN THE ROW........HE'S NOT SEEING BRADY & TO SAY SO........IS DISRESPECTING EVERY BRADY HAS DONE SO FAR BECAUSE HE'S DONE MORE. PEYTON MANNING IS THE FOOTBALL CALCULUS MACHINE.....HE'S A GOD IN THE HUDDLE....HE CALLS HIS OWNS PLAYS.......HES A THROWING MACHINE.........HE'S A STAT DEMOLISHER......................BUT, BRADY HAD THE HEART. BRADY HAD THE INNER STRENGTH IT TOOK TO BE DAMN NEAR PERFECT IN THE POST SEASON FOR 3 TIMES. HE WON ALL THOSE YEARS WHILE PEYTON WAS STRUGGLE TO MAKE IT OUT OF THE WILD CARD. BRADY WAS SONNING NIGGAS. YOU CAN DISCREDIT THAT. ITS CRIMINAL TO DO SO. MANNING HASNT EVEN WON 2 RINGS YET & YALL IN HERE ACTING LIKE HE HAS......[B]IT'LL BE SO FUNNY IF HE LOSES.[/B]

 

[maximus preme]

I Complete Agree..........someone, applaud this man.

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People tend to have a selective memory when looking at Peyton & Brady. One year it's Peyton,then the next year it's Brady. I spefically remember back in 2007..........NO ONE........and i mean no one wouldve came out of their mouths & say Tom Brady wasnt GOAT. But just a mere two years later...........he's garbage. smh.

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Unlike The Colts, The Patriots werent scared to go for 19-0 & came so damn close its maddening. Its fuckin disgusting that Brady was one interception away from The Best Dynasty of all fuckin time. I hate Eli for that shit but, I cant front, Eli played like Zeus, The God of Thunder that game lol. Anyway..........people forget how close Brady was to greatness & if he had got 4 rings........THIS CONVERSATION WOULD BE NULL & VOID. However, he didnt & real men dont ARGUE OVER IFS. The FACTS is Brady has 3 rings & Peyton will probably end up with 2 this year.....shortening the gap between them. However, I really dont think Tom's career is over by far. This year he wasnt the same tom because he was coming off of a major injury. we'll see next year.

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Tom Brady & Peyton Manning. Their Rivalry is like a Little Brother playing the Big Brother in Basketball. The Big Brother beats Lil Brother 15 Times throughout his life & The Lil Brother is never good enough to win & eventually he wins 2 games!!!!! After winning these 2 games, he & all of his friends, AUTOMATICALLY assumes he's better now.........NEVERMIND the fact that the Big brother beat him 15 times before. This relationship describes Brady & Manning from 2001 - now.

Manning's a good Quarterback & COULD be the best QB if Brady doesnt return to his old form but, AS OF NOW........TODAY.........UNLESS PEYTON GOES ON SUPER SAIYAN MODE & WINS 2-3 RINGS IN THE ROW........HE'S NOT SEEING BRADY & TO SAY SO........IS DISRESPECTING EVERY BRADY HAS DONE SO FAR BECAUSE HE'S DONE MORE. PEYTON MANNING IS THE FOOTBALL CALCULUS MACHINE.....HE'S A GOD IN THE HUDDLE....HE CALLS HIS OWNS PLAYS.......HES A THROWING MACHINE.........HE'S A STAT DEMOLISHER......................BUT, BRADY HAD THE HEART. BRADY HAD THE INNER STRENGTH IT TOOK TO BE DAMN NEAR PERFECT IN THE POST SEASON FOR 3 TIMES. HE WON ALL THOSE YEARS WHILE PEYTON WAS STRUGGLE TO MAKE IT OUT OF THE WILD CARD. BRADY WAS SONNING NIGGAS. YOU CAN DISCREDIT THAT. ITS CRIMINAL TO DO SO. MANNING HASNT EVEN WON 2 RINGS YET & YALL IN HERE ACTING LIKE HE HAS......[B]IT'LL BE SO FUNNY IF HE LOSES.[/B]

Both Manning and the Colts have surpassed the Patriots right now. The past is the past. Right now Manning is the better QB period. Brady has had better teams. No one will deny that. But if you look at QB vs QB manning is better. He does more for his team and the Colts are still winning where as the Patriots have kinda fallen off. Also you saw what happened when Brady went down. The Pats went 11-5. The colts win 3 games at best if Manning goes down. Brady has all the team accolades and deserves to be praised for them but he is not better than Manning as an individual. Same way Troy Aikman is not better than either of them and he has all the team accolades as well.

I will say this though. Brady is more clutch.

 

[Maalik]

Both Manning and the Colts have surpassed the Patriots right now. The past is the past. Right now Manning is the better QB period. Brady has had better teams. No one will deny that. But if you look at QB vs QB manning is better. He does more for his team and the Colts are still winning where as the Patriots have kinda fallen off. Also you saw what happened when Brady went down. The Pats went 11-5. The colts win 3 games at best if Manning goes down. Brady has all the team accolades and deserves to be praised for them but he is not better than Manning as an individual. Same way Troy Aikman is not better than either of them and he has all the team accolades as well.

I will say this though. Brady is more clutch.

Tom Brady

2009 NWE 16 371 565 65.7 4398 7.8 28 81 13 96.2

Peyton Manning

2009 IND 16 393 571 68.8 4500 7.9 33 80 16 99.9

Explain to me please.........how that is Peyton Surpassing Brady? That shit is so similar its like splitting hairs. In my mind, Brady will be the Best QB until Peyton does something unbelievable to uproot him (because Brady has 3 Rings & proved himself years before Peyton. In terms of winning Peyton's not even close).....such as win another ring or go 19-0. Things Brady fell short of in 2007. Until then.......its still Brady or atleast, and I use this word very cautiously, tied. Yall keep saying Manning is a master in the huddle, or an offensive coordination in the game or that he's killing him stat wise but, LOOKING ABOVE.......HE'S NOT. They were damn near equal this year. So what r yall talking about besides yall Opinion & Love Fest for Manning????? I Pray to god Drew Brees doesnt win because yall Manning fans gonna look stupid as hell.

 

[maximus preme]

Tom Brady
2009 NWE 16 371 565 65.7 4398 7.8 28 81 13 96.2

Peyton Manning
2009 IND 16 393 571 68.8 4500 7.9 33 80 16 99.9

Explain to me please.........how that is Peyton Surpassing Brady? That shit is so similar its like splitting hairs. In my mind, Brady will be the Best QB until Peyton does something unbelievable to uproot him (because Brady has 3 Rings & proved himself years before Peyton. In terms of winning Peyton's not even close).....such as win another ring or go 19-0. Things Brady fell short of in 2007. Until then.......its still Brady or atleast, and I use this word very cautiously, tied. Yall keep saying Manning is a master in the huddle, or an offensive coordination in the game or that he's killing him stat wise but, LOOKING ABOVE.......HE'S NOT. They were damn near equal this year. So what r yall talking about besides yall Opinion & Love Fest for Manning????? I Pray to god Drew Brees doesnt win because yall Manning fans gonna look stupid as hell.

I'm not just talking about stats when I say QB vs QB. If I was I would have said if you look at their stats. There are certain things that just don't show up in stats. The way Manning always puts his team in the right position, the fact that he calls his own plays, the fact that he doesn't have bad games, the fact that he has been making mid game adjustments to win games all year. Brady's accomplishments are great no one is taking away from that but Manning is the better individual QB. Its not by a lot but Manning is better. Manning just does more from the QB position than Brady does.

 

[king papichulo]

By your logic, Terry Bradshaw is better than Dan Marino. SMH

If Manning leads the Colts to an SB victory, Brady supporters really wont have a leg to stand on.

 

[vageneral08]

The funny thing about this thread is that every arguement the t/s keep saying 3 rings.....he can't make an arguement without saying 3 rings that shit is funny lol everybody knows who has the better stats between the two qb's whether it's by a landslide or just little bit manning is the better qb period

 

[kj_da_midwest_mobsta]

super bowl rings is a team accomplishment individual stats manning is better I argued with somebody at work about that a couple of weeks ago

 

[ghost!]

Also another thing I forgot is that the ONLY reason Brady vs Manning was a real competition was because Brady had the rings but Manning had all the stats. If you ask anybody who they would rather have on thier team Brady or Manning they are going with Manning. You include T/S and you know it lmao

plyoff stats are equal just about...again playoff stats are equal when u finally face the best...this "Manning" who others referr to as the GOAT has equal playoffs stats to brady, and brady's might be better AND BOTH PLAYERS AREN'T EVEN DONE PLAYING YET....and i didn't even bring up rings...eventhough that matters as it's been said numerous times byt former nfl players, experts and coaches...rings mattter.....has always matter..every player and every analyst will tell you that...that point gets brought up and not one of you'll can argue that.l....it's not the whole arguement, just like stats arent the whole agruement..but it's part of evaluating a player..and NO FOR THE 1,0000 times u dont bring up any player wiht rings..u compare great players with each other..not *insert player here* to a great player...so NOOOOOOOOOOO trent dilfer is not n this arguement..and nooooooooooo robert horry is not in this arguement....thank you! i'm down you'll can carry on....

also so i find it funny

u can't think manning's the goat...so if u bring up another player it's like the anti-christ up in here! SMH...although you give manning his props posters act like brady's name should not be mention...smh so glad you'll have no final say about what goes on in the NFL.

 

[ghost!]

By your logic, Terry Bradshaw is better than Dan Marino. SMH

If Manning leads the Colts to an SB victory, Brady supporters really wont have a leg to stand on.

smh....so when did both their careers end after the SB? What if brady wins another one, the convo then is done???....so by UR LOGIC then once Manning wins one more the convo is over...so brady can't win another one...and also according to the Mannning supporters "rings dont matter" so why are you bring up rings? it's a team sport according to you and evryone else...

 

[mike06]

its funny how the T/S wont acknowledge anyone else on the Pats team except Brady as the reason they won rings.....lmao!!!....like Brady actually CARRIED his team to the SB.....seriously we get that he has 3 rings but you can't honestly say he CARRIED HIS TEAM to the SB like Manning has CARRIED the colts FROM DAY 1 SINCE HE WAS DRAFTED.....THAT IS THE MAIN REASON MANNING IS FAVOERED.....BELICHICK HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE ONE THAT FOUND BRADY...not the other way around....ADAM VINATERI was THE HERO in those SB's....not Brady.....if you put Brady on any of the teams that the Pat's played in the SB....DOES HE HAVE ANY RINGS?...or do the Pat's continue thier dynasty with....dare i say.....another QB they found in the draft?

no one is taking away from Brady's 3 rings and if he wins some more than the argument becomes a little tougher but you can cleary see that Manning has done more at the QB position for his team than Brady...Brady had his best chance at greatness and to sepreate himself from Manning when they went 18-0 and....choked....lol....i think if Manning was leading a 18-0 team in the SB....he would've stayed undefeated

 

[PanchoYoSancho]

^^^^^^

Just focusing on your Vinatieri argument....

If Mike Vanderjagt didnt go Vandershank, the Colts would've atleast forced Overtime against the Steelers in the '06 playoffs and the Pats in the '04 season opener.

It's alot of "What if"s, but if the Colts would've beaten the Pats in OT, they would've held the tie breaker. Thus, the Divisional Game would've been played in Indianapolis instead of New England. Even if they would of beaten the Pats, that doesnt mean they would've went into Pittsburgh and beaten the Steelers, but the Pats wouldnt have gotten their 3rd ring.

And if they would've beaten the Steelers in OT, they would've hosted the Broncos, who they destroyed the previous two years in the postseason, in the AFC Championship.

 

[Maalik]

I bet the ETHER is burning all yall niggas slow & painfully

SMH!!!!!!!! at any one in this thread who said Manning was Better than Tom Brady