How is "Ether" a classic diss but not "you gotta love it" or "Curtis" ??

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_God_;8612810 said:
How am I being a revisionist? I'm telling you the truth. Ether did not have jayz depressed.His career did not suffer one bit. I'm telling you what I lived thru, The cam diss records had more of an immediate impact than ether. The difference is that cam didn't apologize and did not pretend so that he can get in jayz good graces to reap the benefits, and have multiple media machines hype up his career.

Word? Beans and all them niggas that were talking about the atmosphere on Rocafella when Ether dropped were liars then, huh? His career didn't suffer, but that's not what we're talking about. Stop deflecting and diverting. The purpose of a good diss record is to expose vulnerabilities and weaknesses and make your opponent look stupid and get the crowd on your side. (Kinda like how I'm doing to you right now.) And Nas accomplished that tenfold.

And fuck is you talking about wit all that other rambling you doing about Cam? All that shit is inconsequential. Ain't even addressing what I laid out for you. Smh.

Let it go, Jr. You out here lookin foolish.

 
"CURTIS" IS CLASSIC DISS RECORD

I played it other day when had youtube on a mix setting.. and laughed but liked the beat as always and that classic line bout him looking like a gorilla with rabbit teeeth LOL
 
_God_;8612360 said:
qawshun;8612316 said:
_God_;8612283 said:
qawshun;8612270 said:
_God_;8612229 said:
qawshun;8612200 said:
_God_;540426 said:
Ether was filled with non provable statements and jokes and ppl treat this as the standards for diss records. Then Camron takes the same route to slaughter jayz and 50 cent and so called hip hop purist act as if it was insignificant or wack. Both of these diss records overshadowed ether by far. Nas was dead when ether came out . Cam shut nyc down with both these diss records. And they are arguably better songs than ether. Ether is overrated by Nas stans. Even xzibits diss to jermaine dupri is comparable to ether.

Code:
http://youtu.be/sFsO7tmfT_s

Code:
http://youtu.be/pnycZjc3nQM

What makes ether better honestly?

Nas went plat before ether came out. Sooo ummm yeah

What does that mean? Jay sold 10 times more than Nas ever did and....

You said nas was dead he wasn't, jay always had a commerical hit he pushed nas rarely pushes his radio hits. Ether still come up today cause's arguments and gets people in their feelings. Look at this thread your ethering your own shit by saying it wasn't all that or whatever but 14yrs later its on your mind. "That Ether the shit that makes your soul burn slow !

No I brought it up bc I'm on the IC and ether is the tabernacle here but I personally know of and seen the impact of other diss records. I lived through all these disses. None can compare to takeover. I'm tryna get y'all to see that most y'all just bandwagon dicjriders when it comes to ether bc I lived it and seen it

Takeover was a bunch of opinions cock jockies tried to make fact. Look at nas lp's 2 back to back classics i am was tough and Nastradamus was weak compared to the other 3 but still had 6 bangers 3 ok tracks and few weak ones outta 15 or 16 tracks and 2 of them were skits so that 1 hot album every 10yr shit is outta there. Takeover was a reach. Still fire but reach

I showed you ya first tech on tour with large professor

Then I heard u talkin bout ya tech on the dresser

So yea I sampled your voice you was using it wrong

You made it a hot line

I made it a hot song

You ain't get a coin nigga u was getting fucked and I know who I paid God Searchlight publishing

All facts

How do you know the tech was facts? Was you there?? That right there exposed how biast you are.

Once again you exposed yourself to your stanning since MC Serch already explained that he didnt own Nas publishing. I swear Takeover is so overrated that its really comical when someone comes to defend it like its facts. The only fact on takeover was the carmen line and that was a good one by Jay. Nas destroyed him with facts, comedy, anger, and the ultimate disrespect of dropping in on Hov's birthday.
 
_God_;8612743 said:
Sion;8612719 said:
_God_;8612436 said:
Sion;8612357 said:
Because Ether created a moment for one of the biggest rap beefs of all time. The whole world was waiting on a NaS response after Takeover 5 months prior and boy did NaS deliver. It takes a special kind of tactician to wait so he can drop a scathing diss song on your birthday. Imagine Jay and the ROC poppin bottles on his bday cuz they think they won and then they turn on Hot 97. What's even more fucked up is Christmas is like 3 weeks after Jay's birthday, he couldn't even enjoy xmas cuz he had to hear it everywhere.....

The others just didn't hit as hard, Curtis was stupid he just called him by his birth name and You Gotta Love It didn't go anywhere because Jay-Z didn't respond.

Jayz didn't respond cuz that's the only way he could have won Bc Jay lost the streets. And cam is a viable opponent but Jay knew he could win off public perception. Ether didn't have a impact on anybody except Nas. Ether revived Nas career. Jay just kept doing what he did. But how can ether be special when it took 5 months, and the general consensus was that Nas lost. Curtis was cam and 50 collaborating trying to bring attention to nyc but the diss was equal to ether. He called him Curtis, saying that he is not who he say he was. "You ain't 50 , 50 cent from BK" that's harsh

And you gotta love was real ether that's y Jay didn't respond he rather not say anything bc once he did he would validate cams statement (which he later did on Dig A Hole)

Winning in the streets ? Cam'ron got shot and almost robbed, he lost the feeling in 2 fingers on his left hand SMMFH. The streets don't mean anything. Ether didn't revive NaS' career, NaS was the biggest selling artist in NY (before DMX) and most revered, after Big died he was the Undisputed KONY. Curtis was stupid and didn't say anything meaningful, he said he was "buck tooth with rabbit teeth", a snitch and called him out by his name. 50 Cent had Jim Jones and Juelz Santana doing songs with him on stage and shit. You say Cam won in the streets how, if his own team wouldn't back him in his beef when he was supposed to have the biggest movement in NY ? Ether is a classic, shit it's a phrase and a reaction on the IC.

He got shot in DC , bc he came thru the hood of DC in a blue Lamborghini, and DC thought they could get points off the Kony. And then he came back shot a video with his arm in a sling and shitted on DC and Jayz in one verse. dropped kills season the movie and album and had the streets of Ny in a frenzy. And then went on Hot 97 and shitted on Jayz in front of nyc. Cam a street legend, he only care about Nyc. He could care less what everyone else think. I'm here to tell everybody the real reaction to these records and their impact. Cam and Jim and 50 have came out and said the beef with fifty was not real beef. It was really a dipset gunit collaboration to bring nyc back but the Curtis track is still the best diss anybody has ever made to 50. At that point Jay had completely left nyc and its rap scene.

Nas the best selling ? Most revered? Nas career was in shambles before JayZ dissed. He was a complete afterthought during the emergence of nyc mixtape scene, rocafella reign and down started to pick up steam and def an afterthought while 50 was reigning. After hate me now , no one was playing Nas until ether then made u look. Nas impact on nyc is sensationalized. Biggie dissed him , pac dissed him, Jay dissed him , 50 dissed him. Nobody was giving Nas any respect, he ruined his relationship with funkmaster flex. And dj Kay slay. He just wasn't putting music out for a long stretch. I give Nas credit for titling the track Ether but it's impact is sensationalized through revisionist history. The cam diss records are given love because of how brutal they were and Cams business savvy.

Yo where were you 93-99 ? Nas always took 2yrs to drop. Not to Mention the double lp leak which got us the i am / Nastradamus lp's. Who hasn't dissed jay ? Pac was butt hurt, big knew what was up that's why kick in the door was a response. Who needed flex when clue was poppin ? Kay slay was riding then got emotional. Your looking at all this shit as if 90% of the reason didn't live it with you ? Lol cut it out.
 
_God_;8612436 said:
Sion;8612357 said:
Because Ether created a moment for one of the biggest rap beefs of all time. The whole world was waiting on a NaS response after Takeover 5 months prior and boy did NaS deliver. It takes a special kind of tactician to wait so he can drop a scathing diss song on your birthday. Imagine Jay and the ROC poppin bottles on his bday cuz they think they won and then they turn on Hot 97. What's even more fucked up is Christmas is like 3 weeks after Jay's birthday, he couldn't even enjoy xmas cuz he had to hear it everywhere.....

The others just didn't hit as hard, Curtis was stupid he just called him by his birth name and You Gotta Love It didn't go anywhere because Jay-Z didn't respond.

Jayz didn't respond cuz that's the only way he could have won Bc Jay lost the streets. And cam is a viable opponent but Jay knew he could win off public perception. Ether didn't have a impact on anybody except Nas. Ether revived Nas career. Jay just kept doing what he did. But how can ether be special when it took 5 months, and the general consensus was that Nas lost. Curtis was cam and 50 collaborating trying to bring attention to nyc but the diss was equal to ether. He called him Curtis, saying that he is not who he say he was. "You ain't 50 , 50 cent from BK" that's harsh

And you gotta love was real ether that's y Jay didn't respond he rather not say anything bc once he did he would validate cams statement (which he later did on Dig A Hole)

LOL at you thinking that the general consensus was that Nas lost. You a funny nigga. Jay lost the battle everywhere and not just NY. Even majority of the rappers and casual fans that never heard of Nas say that Nas won the battle. Get over it. Jay did so should you.

 
jim1000;8612880 said:
_God_;8612360 said:
qawshun;8612316 said:
_God_;8612283 said:
qawshun;8612270 said:
_God_;8612229 said:
qawshun;8612200 said:
_God_;540426 said:
Ether was filled with non provable statements and jokes and ppl treat this as the standards for diss records. Then Camron takes the same route to slaughter jayz and 50 cent and so called hip hop purist act as if it was insignificant or wack. Both of these diss records overshadowed ether by far. Nas was dead when ether came out . Cam shut nyc down with both these diss records. And they are arguably better songs than ether. Ether is overrated by Nas stans. Even xzibits diss to jermaine dupri is comparable to ether.

Code:
http://youtu.be/sFsO7tmfT_s

Code:
http://youtu.be/pnycZjc3nQM

What makes ether better honestly?

Nas went plat before ether came out. Sooo ummm yeah

What does that mean? Jay sold 10 times more than Nas ever did and....

You said nas was dead he wasn't, jay always had a commerical hit he pushed nas rarely pushes his radio hits. Ether still come up today cause's arguments and gets people in their feelings. Look at this thread your ethering your own shit by saying it wasn't all that or whatever but 14yrs later its on your mind. "That Ether the shit that makes your soul burn slow !

No I brought it up bc I'm on the IC and ether is the tabernacle here but I personally know of and seen the impact of other diss records. I lived through all these disses. None can compare to takeover. I'm tryna get y'all to see that most y'all just bandwagon dicjriders when it comes to ether bc I lived it and seen it

Takeover was a bunch of opinions cock jockies tried to make fact. Look at nas lp's 2 back to back classics i am was tough and Nastradamus was weak compared to the other 3 but still had 6 bangers 3 ok tracks and few weak ones outta 15 or 16 tracks and 2 of them were skits so that 1 hot album every 10yr shit is outta there. Takeover was a reach. Still fire but reach

I showed you ya first tech on tour with large professor

Then I heard u talkin bout ya tech on the dresser

So yea I sampled your voice you was using it wrong

You made it a hot line

I made it a hot song

You ain't get a coin nigga u was getting fucked and I know who I paid God Searchlight publishing

All facts

How do you know the tech was facts? Was you there?? That right there exposed how biast you are.

Once again you exposed yourself to your stanning since MC Serch already explained that he didnt own Nas publishing. I swear Takeover is so overrated that its really comical when someone comes to defend it like its facts. The only fact on takeover was the carmen line and that was a good one by Jay. Nas destroyed him with facts, comedy, anger, and the ultimate disrespect of dropping in on Hov's birthday.

How do you know what nas said in ether was "facts"..... Ain't none of us be there for any of they personal shit so it's all either hearsay or opinions
 
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GetoBoy;8612884 said:
jim1000;8612880 said:
_God_;8612360 said:
qawshun;8612316 said:
_God_;8612283 said:
qawshun;8612270 said:
_God_;8612229 said:
qawshun;8612200 said:
_God_;540426 said:
Ether was filled with non provable statements and jokes and ppl treat this as the standards for diss records. Then Camron takes the same route to slaughter jayz and 50 cent and so called hip hop purist act as if it was insignificant or wack. Both of these diss records overshadowed ether by far. Nas was dead when ether came out . Cam shut nyc down with both these diss records. And they are arguably better songs than ether. Ether is overrated by Nas stans. Even xzibits diss to jermaine dupri is comparable to ether.

Code:
http://youtu.be/sFsO7tmfT_s

Krs-one naming his album blueprint first-facts

Jay-Z biting biggie rhymes-facts

Jay-z being called ugly-facts ( Nas used jay-z own words against him)

Just to name of few.

Code:
http://youtu.be/pnycZjc3nQM

What makes ether better honestly?

Nas went plat before ether came out. Sooo ummm yeah

What does that mean? Jay sold 10 times more than Nas ever did and....

You said nas was dead he wasn't, jay always had a commerical hit he pushed nas rarely pushes his radio hits. Ether still come up today cause's arguments and gets people in their feelings. Look at this thread your ethering your own shit by saying it wasn't all that or whatever but 14yrs later its on your mind. "That Ether the shit that makes your soul burn slow !

No I brought it up bc I'm on the IC and ether is the tabernacle here but I personally know of and seen the impact of other diss records. I lived through all these disses. None can compare to takeover. I'm tryna get y'all to see that most y'all just bandwagon dicjriders when it comes to ether bc I lived it and seen it

Takeover was a bunch of opinions cock jockies tried to make fact. Look at nas lp's 2 back to back classics i am was tough and Nastradamus was weak compared to the other 3 but still had 6 bangers 3 ok tracks and few weak ones outta 15 or 16 tracks and 2 of them were skits so that 1 hot album every 10yr shit is outta there. Takeover was a reach. Still fire but reach

I showed you ya first tech on tour with large professor

Then I heard u talkin bout ya tech on the dresser

So yea I sampled your voice you was using it wrong

You made it a hot line

I made it a hot song

You ain't get a coin nigga u was getting fucked and I know who I paid God Searchlight publishing

All facts

How do you know the tech was facts? Was you there?? That right there exposed how biast you are.

Once again you exposed yourself to your stanning since MC Serch already explained that he didnt own Nas publishing. I swear Takeover is so overrated that its really comical when someone comes to defend it like its facts. The only fact on takeover was the carmen line and that was a good one by Jay. Nas destroyed him with facts, comedy, anger, and the ultimate disrespect of dropping in on Hov's birthday.

How do you know what nas said in ether was "facts"..... Ain't none of us be there for any of they personal shit so it's all hearsay

Krs-one naming his album blueprint first-facts

Jay-Z biting biggie rhymes-facts

Jay-z being called ugly-facts ( Nas used jay-z own words against him)

Just to name of few.

 
jim1000;8612886 said:
GetoBoy;8612884 said:
jim1000;8612880 said:
_God_;8612360 said:
qawshun;8612316 said:
_God_;8612283 said:
qawshun;8612270 said:
_God_;8612229 said:
qawshun;8612200 said:
_God_;540426 said:
Ether was filled with non provable statements and jokes and ppl treat this as the standards for diss records. Then Camron takes the same route to slaughter jayz and 50 cent and so called hip hop purist act as if it was insignificant or wack. Both of these diss records overshadowed ether by far. Nas was dead when ether came out . Cam shut nyc down with both these diss records. And they are arguably better songs than ether. Ether is overrated by Nas stans. Even xzibits diss to jermaine dupri is comparable to ether.

Code:
http://youtu.be/sFsO7tmfT_s

Krs-one naming his album blueprint first-facts

Jay-Z biting biggie rhymes-facts

Jay-z being called ugly-facts ( Nas used jay-z own words against him)

Just to name of few.

Code:
http://youtu.be/pnycZjc3nQM

What makes ether better honestly?

Nas went plat before ether came out. Sooo ummm yeah

What does that mean? Jay sold 10 times more than Nas ever did and....

You said nas was dead he wasn't, jay always had a commerical hit he pushed nas rarely pushes his radio hits. Ether still come up today cause's arguments and gets people in their feelings. Look at this thread your ethering your own shit by saying it wasn't all that or whatever but 14yrs later its on your mind. "That Ether the shit that makes your soul burn slow !

No I brought it up bc I'm on the IC and ether is the tabernacle here but I personally know of and seen the impact of other diss records. I lived through all these disses. None can compare to takeover. I'm tryna get y'all to see that most y'all just bandwagon dicjriders when it comes to ether bc I lived it and seen it

Takeover was a bunch of opinions cock jockies tried to make fact. Look at nas lp's 2 back to back classics i am was tough and Nastradamus was weak compared to the other 3 but still had 6 bangers 3 ok tracks and few weak ones outta 15 or 16 tracks and 2 of them were skits so that 1 hot album every 10yr shit is outta there. Takeover was a reach. Still fire but reach

I showed you ya first tech on tour with large professor

Then I heard u talkin bout ya tech on the dresser

So yea I sampled your voice you was using it wrong

You made it a hot line

I made it a hot song

You ain't get a coin nigga u was getting fucked and I know who I paid God Searchlight publishing

All facts

How do you know the tech was facts? Was you there?? That right there exposed how biast you are.

Once again you exposed yourself to your stanning since MC Serch already explained that he didnt own Nas publishing. I swear Takeover is so overrated that its really comical when someone comes to defend it like its facts. The only fact on takeover was the carmen line and that was a good one by Jay. Nas destroyed him with facts, comedy, anger, and the ultimate disrespect of dropping in on Hov's birthday.

How do you know what nas said in ether was "facts"..... Ain't none of us be there for any of they personal shit so it's all hearsay

Krs-one naming his album blueprint first-facts

Jay-Z biting biggie rhymes-facts

Jay-z being called ugly-facts ( Nas used jay-z own words against him)

Just to name of few.

Jay smashing his bm-Facts

Jay using his voice and making a hot song-Facts

Nas not getting a dime from it-Facts

Nas falling off-Facts

Ain't tryna make this a ether vs takeover shit but the whole " were you there" shit is weak becuz you can do that with any diss track
 
any nigga that can argue the words said in Ether as scathing or factual or anything of the sort.....I just smh at.

I think we did a breakdown on here over a decade ago of every line in both Takeover and Ether and line for line, Nas shit didn't come close....and it was a whole song!

Like I said before, Nas did indeed win the battle just because the public got Jay in his feelings and he reacted...outside of that, that shit was a landslide, not in Nas's favor.
 
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GetoBoy;8612888 said:
jim1000;8612886 said:
GetoBoy;8612884 said:
jim1000;8612880 said:
_God_;8612360 said:
qawshun;8612316 said:
_God_;8612283 said:
qawshun;8612270 said:
_God_;8612229 said:
qawshun;8612200 said:
_God_;540426 said:
Ether was filled with non provable statements and jokes and ppl treat this as the standards for diss records. Then Camron takes the same route to slaughter jayz and 50 cent and so called hip hop purist act as if it was insignificant or wack. Both of these diss records overshadowed ether by far. Nas was dead when ether came out . Cam shut nyc down with both these diss records. And they are arguably better songs than ether. Ether is overrated by Nas stans. Even xzibits diss to jermaine dupri is comparable to ether.

Code:
http://youtu.be/sFsO7tmfT_s

Krs-one naming his album blueprint first-facts

Jay-Z biting biggie rhymes-facts

Jay-z being called ugly-facts ( Nas used jay-z own words against him)

Just to name of few.

Code:
http://youtu.be/pnycZjc3nQM

What makes ether better honestly?

Nas went plat before ether came out. Sooo ummm yeah

What does that mean? Jay sold 10 times more than Nas ever did and....

You said nas was dead he wasn't, jay always had a commerical hit he pushed nas rarely pushes his radio hits. Ether still come up today cause's arguments and gets people in their feelings. Look at this thread your ethering your own shit by saying it wasn't all that or whatever but 14yrs later its on your mind. "That Ether the shit that makes your soul burn slow !

No I brought it up bc I'm on the IC and ether is the tabernacle here but I personally know of and seen the impact of other diss records. I lived through all these disses. None can compare to takeover. I'm tryna get y'all to see that most y'all just bandwagon dicjriders when it comes to ether bc I lived it and seen it

Takeover was a bunch of opinions cock jockies tried to make fact. Look at nas lp's 2 back to back classics i am was tough and Nastradamus was weak compared to the other 3 but still had 6 bangers 3 ok tracks and few weak ones outta 15 or 16 tracks and 2 of them were skits so that 1 hot album every 10yr shit is outta there. Takeover was a reach. Still fire but reach

I showed you ya first tech on tour with large professor

Then I heard u talkin bout ya tech on the dresser

So yea I sampled your voice you was using it wrong

You made it a hot line

I made it a hot song

You ain't get a coin nigga u was getting fucked and I know who I paid God Searchlight publishing

All facts

How do you know the tech was facts? Was you there?? That right there exposed how biast you are.

Once again you exposed yourself to your stanning since MC Serch already explained that he didnt own Nas publishing. I swear Takeover is so overrated that its really comical when someone comes to defend it like its facts. The only fact on takeover was the carmen line and that was a good one by Jay. Nas destroyed him with facts, comedy, anger, and the ultimate disrespect of dropping in on Hov's birthday.

How do you know what nas said in ether was "facts"..... Ain't none of us be there for any of they personal shit so it's all hearsay

Krs-one naming his album blueprint first-facts

Jay-Z biting biggie rhymes-facts

Jay-z being called ugly-facts ( Nas used jay-z own words against him)

Just to name of few.

Jay smashing his bm-Facts

Jay using his voice and making a hot song-Facts

Nas not getting a dime from it-Facts

Nas falling off-Facts

Ain't tryna make this a ether vs takeover shit but the whole " were you there" shit is weak becuz you can do that with any diss track

Again when did nas fall off tho lol 3 hot albums and one so so joint depending on taste.
 
qawshun;8612901 said:
GetoBoy;8612888 said:
jim1000;8612886 said:
GetoBoy;8612884 said:
jim1000;8612880 said:
_God_;8612360 said:
qawshun;8612316 said:
_God_;8612283 said:
qawshun;8612270 said:
_God_;8612229 said:
qawshun;8612200 said:
_God_;540426 said:
Ether was filled with non provable statements and jokes and ppl treat this as the standards for diss records. Then Camron takes the same route to slaughter jayz and 50 cent and so called hip hop purist act as if it was insignificant or wack. Both of these diss records overshadowed ether by far. Nas was dead when ether came out . Cam shut nyc down with both these diss records. And they are arguably better songs than ether. Ether is overrated by Nas stans. Even xzibits diss to jermaine dupri is comparable to ether.

Code:
http://youtu.be/sFsO7tmfT_s

Krs-one naming his album blueprint first-facts

Jay-Z biting biggie rhymes-facts

Jay-z being called ugly-facts ( Nas used jay-z own words against him)

Just to name of few.

Code:
http://youtu.be/pnycZjc3nQM

What makes ether better honestly?

Nas went plat before ether came out. Sooo ummm yeah

What does that mean? Jay sold 10 times more than Nas ever did and....

You said nas was dead he wasn't, jay always had a commerical hit he pushed nas rarely pushes his radio hits. Ether still come up today cause's arguments and gets people in their feelings. Look at this thread your ethering your own shit by saying it wasn't all that or whatever but 14yrs later its on your mind. "That Ether the shit that makes your soul burn slow !

No I brought it up bc I'm on the IC and ether is the tabernacle here but I personally know of and seen the impact of other diss records. I lived through all these disses. None can compare to takeover. I'm tryna get y'all to see that most y'all just bandwagon dicjriders when it comes to ether bc I lived it and seen it

Takeover was a bunch of opinions cock jockies tried to make fact. Look at nas lp's 2 back to back classics i am was tough and Nastradamus was weak compared to the other 3 but still had 6 bangers 3 ok tracks and few weak ones outta 15 or 16 tracks and 2 of them were skits so that 1 hot album every 10yr shit is outta there. Takeover was a reach. Still fire but reach

I showed you ya first tech on tour with large professor

Then I heard u talkin bout ya tech on the dresser

So yea I sampled your voice you was using it wrong

You made it a hot line

I made it a hot song

You ain't get a coin nigga u was getting fucked and I know who I paid God Searchlight publishing

All facts

How do you know the tech was facts? Was you there?? That right there exposed how biast you are.

Once again you exposed yourself to your stanning since MC Serch already explained that he didnt own Nas publishing. I swear Takeover is so overrated that its really comical when someone comes to defend it like its facts. The only fact on takeover was the carmen line and that was a good one by Jay. Nas destroyed him with facts, comedy, anger, and the ultimate disrespect of dropping in on Hov's birthday.

How do you know what nas said in ether was "facts"..... Ain't none of us be there for any of they personal shit so it's all hearsay

Krs-one naming his album blueprint first-facts

Jay-Z biting biggie rhymes-facts

Jay-z being called ugly-facts ( Nas used jay-z own words against him)

Just to name of few.

Jay smashing his bm-Facts

Jay using his voice and making a hot song-Facts

Nas not getting a dime from it-Facts

Nas falling off-Facts

Ain't tryna make this a ether vs takeover shit but the whole " were you there" shit is weak becuz you can do that with any diss track

Again when did nas fall off tho lol 3 hot albums and one so so joint depending on taste.

and nigga you keep talkin about revisionism....you're view on history is clearly misconstrued or completely biased. 3 hot albums.....LMAO, thats subjectivity at its finest i suppose
 
qawshun;8612901 said:
GetoBoy;8612888 said:
jim1000;8612886 said:
GetoBoy;8612884 said:
jim1000;8612880 said:
_God_;8612360 said:
qawshun;8612316 said:
_God_;8612283 said:
qawshun;8612270 said:
_God_;8612229 said:
qawshun;8612200 said:
_God_;540426 said:
Ether was filled with non provable statements and jokes and ppl treat this as the standards for diss records. Then Camron takes the same route to slaughter jayz and 50 cent and so called hip hop purist act as if it was insignificant or wack. Both of these diss records overshadowed ether by far. Nas was dead when ether came out . Cam shut nyc down with both these diss records. And they are arguably better songs than ether. Ether is overrated by Nas stans. Even xzibits diss to jermaine dupri is comparable to ether.

Code:
http://youtu.be/sFsO7tmfT_s

Krs-one naming his album blueprint first-facts

Jay-Z biting biggie rhymes-facts

Jay-z being called ugly-facts ( Nas used jay-z own words against him)

Just to name of few.

Code:
http://youtu.be/pnycZjc3nQM

What makes ether better honestly?

Nas went plat before ether came out. Sooo ummm yeah

What does that mean? Jay sold 10 times more than Nas ever did and....

You said nas was dead he wasn't, jay always had a commerical hit he pushed nas rarely pushes his radio hits. Ether still come up today cause's arguments and gets people in their feelings. Look at this thread your ethering your own shit by saying it wasn't all that or whatever but 14yrs later its on your mind. "That Ether the shit that makes your soul burn slow !

No I brought it up bc I'm on the IC and ether is the tabernacle here but I personally know of and seen the impact of other diss records. I lived through all these disses. None can compare to takeover. I'm tryna get y'all to see that most y'all just bandwagon dicjriders when it comes to ether bc I lived it and seen it

Takeover was a bunch of opinions cock jockies tried to make fact. Look at nas lp's 2 back to back classics i am was tough and Nastradamus was weak compared to the other 3 but still had 6 bangers 3 ok tracks and few weak ones outta 15 or 16 tracks and 2 of them were skits so that 1 hot album every 10yr shit is outta there. Takeover was a reach. Still fire but reach

I showed you ya first tech on tour with large professor

Then I heard u talkin bout ya tech on the dresser

So yea I sampled your voice you was using it wrong

You made it a hot line

I made it a hot song

You ain't get a coin nigga u was getting fucked and I know who I paid God Searchlight publishing

All facts

How do you know the tech was facts? Was you there?? That right there exposed how biast you are.

Once again you exposed yourself to your stanning since MC Serch already explained that he didnt own Nas publishing. I swear Takeover is so overrated that its really comical when someone comes to defend it like its facts. The only fact on takeover was the carmen line and that was a good one by Jay. Nas destroyed him with facts, comedy, anger, and the ultimate disrespect of dropping in on Hov's birthday.

How do you know what nas said in ether was "facts"..... Ain't none of us be there for any of they personal shit so it's all hearsay

Krs-one naming his album blueprint first-facts

Jay-Z biting biggie rhymes-facts

Jay-z being called ugly-facts ( Nas used jay-z own words against him)

Just to name of few.

Jay smashing his bm-Facts

Jay using his voice and making a hot song-Facts

Nas not getting a dime from it-Facts

Nas falling off-Facts

Ain't tryna make this a ether vs takeover shit but the whole " were you there" shit is weak becuz you can do that with any diss track

Again when did nas fall off tho lol 3 hot albums and one so so joint depending on taste.

Bruh nobody was mentioning nas name no more when the best MC's was being brought up b4 ether..... Falling off don't mean his skills were lacking he just wasn't where he use to be aka "fell from top 10 to not mentioned at all".....niggas be taking shit so literally like they don't know how to read into what is really being said lol
 
Curtisssssssssssssssss rewind it dj.

Had 50 switch up and named his album CURTIS.

and you claim to be a hip-hop head?

ooh wop, two shots in his hip-hop head,

this way the whole world know that hip-hop's dead!

Than Afew yrs later Esco named his shit HHID.

Killa the album namer for your fave rappers
 
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Ether was filled with non provable statements and jokes and ppl treat this as the standards for diss records. Then Camron takes the same route to slaughter jayz and 50 cent and so called hip hop purist act as if it was insignificant or wack. Both of these diss records overshadowed ether by far. Nas was dead when ether came out . Cam shut nyc down with both these diss records. And they are arguably better songs than ether. Ether is overrated by Nas stans. Even xzibits diss to jermaine dupri is comparable to ether.

Code:
http://youtu.be/sFsO7tmfT_s

Krs-one naming his album blueprint first-facts

Jay-Z biting biggie rhymes-facts

Jay-z being called ugly-facts ( Nas used jay-z own words against him)

Just to name of few.

Code:
http://youtu.be/pnycZjc3nQM

What makes ether better honestly?

Nas went plat before ether came out. Sooo ummm yeah

What does that mean? Jay sold 10 times more than Nas ever did and....

You said nas was dead he wasn't, jay always had a commerical hit he pushed nas rarely pushes his radio hits. Ether still come up today cause's arguments and gets people in their feelings. Look at this thread your ethering your own shit by saying it wasn't all that or whatever but 14yrs later its on your mind. "That Ether the shit that makes your soul burn slow !

No I brought it up bc I'm on the IC and ether is the tabernacle here but I personally know of and seen the impact of other diss records. I lived through all these disses. None can compare to takeover. I'm tryna get y'all to see that most y'all just bandwagon dicjriders when it comes to ether bc I lived it and seen it

Takeover was a bunch of opinions cock jockies tried to make fact. Look at nas lp's 2 back to back classics i am was tough and Nastradamus was weak compared to the other 3 but still had 6 bangers 3 ok tracks and few weak ones outta 15 or 16 tracks and 2 of them were skits so that 1 hot album every 10yr shit is outta there. Takeover was a reach. Still fire but reach

I showed you ya first tech on tour with large professor

Then I heard u talkin bout ya tech on the dresser

So yea I sampled your voice you was using it wrong

You made it a hot line

I made it a hot song

You ain't get a coin nigga u was getting fucked and I know who I paid God Searchlight publishing

All facts

How do you know the tech was facts? Was you there?? That right there exposed how biast you are.

Once again you exposed yourself to your stanning since MC Serch already explained that he didnt own Nas publishing. I swear Takeover is so overrated that its really comical when someone comes to defend it like its facts. The only fact on takeover was the carmen line and that was a good one by Jay. Nas destroyed him with facts, comedy, anger, and the ultimate disrespect of dropping in on Hov's birthday.

How do you know what nas said in ether was "facts"..... Ain't none of us be there for any of they personal shit so it's all hearsay

Krs-one naming his album blueprint first-facts

Jay-Z biting biggie rhymes-facts

Jay-z being called ugly-facts ( Nas used jay-z own words against him)

Just to name of few.

Jay smashing his bm-Facts

Jay using his voice and making a hot song-Facts

Nas not getting a dime from it-Facts

Nas falling off-Facts

Ain't tryna make this a ether vs takeover shit but the whole " were you there" shit is weak becuz you can do that with any diss track

Again when did nas fall off tho lol 3 hot albums and one so so joint depending on taste.

Bruh nobody was mentioning nas name no more when the best MC's was being brought up b4 ether..... Falling off don't mean his skills were lacking he just wasn't where he use to be aka "fell from top 10 to not mentioned at all".....niggas be taking shit so literally like they don't know how to read into what is really being said lol

Like 1 hot album every 10 years right
 
Lol...

Large Pro confirmed the Tec on tour on the Combat Jack show, but who knows if it was the 1st Tec Nas saw...

The crib numbers line is reference to Jay trying to call Nas for the "Can I Live" video imo (Lex with TV Sets the minimum)...

Jay crying on Hot97 then dropping that 1/2 shitty BP2 album, he was affected...
 

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