How is Eminem anywhere near a top 10 rapper based on catalog alone?

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usmarin3;477780 said:
Think about this!

He has never made an album that's on that Illmatic, Enter 36 Chambers, Reasonable Doubt,The Diary, Me against the world status, Ready to Die, Paid in Full,etc status and dudes like Nas, Jay,Pac, Biggie,Face, Rakim,etc have never made a shitty album on the level of Encore or Relapse. Encore might be one of the worst albums ever made period.

What exactly is Eminem so call top 5 status based on, he damn sure ain't got no classics and his bad albums are really fucking terrible.

There are lots of rappers out here who got at least 2 classics to most people and critics (Rakim, Nas, Jay,Pac,Face, Cube,KRS,Biggie,etc).

I understand technically Em is nice, but what's the end product out of all that shit. Two 4 mic albums in MMLP,MMShow, two solid joints in SSLP,Recovery, and two wack ass albums in Encore and Relapse.

While Eminem is nice he ain't nowhere near top 10 based on his discography. Eminem is one of these rappers that can lay down a hot verse but can't make a cohesive album. I have rarely seen him get outshined when he lays down a guest verse, but most of his songs are either extremely corny and garbage (The real Slim Shady, Without me, Just lose it, Big Winnie etc.) or whiny Kurt Kobainish. His albums lack any replay value.
 
this thread can be made about anyone from Jay to Nas to BIG

the only difference is, they wont have done as much as Em when you compare the careers
 
UPTOWN CONNEXX;4908262 said:
Lab Baby;4841871 said:
Gen. Stasia;4841825 said:
Lab Baby;4841797 said:
He's definitely a top 5 spitter in the game. Catalogue wise... not so much. 99-02 Em was on a GOAT run (all 3 albums are 5 mics, fuck a hater), but after that, son went downhill. Still had bars, but the drugs and the goofy shit fucked up his catalogue. And by the time he got to Recovery, he was spittin lines like "call me Elton John cuz I'm a mean cocksucker". So GOAT list, he's fallen from the 10th spot. But he's still one of my favorite MCs. I disagree with Encore being the worst album ever though, shit had some bangers on it.

None of those albums are better than Reasonable Doubt tho. And even tho I love Reasonable Doubt its lower teir Classic in terms of Illmatic and Ready To Die so how in the FUCK are they 5 mics?

Is De La Soul Is Dead better than Aquemini? Is One For All better than Amerikkka's Most Wanted? Just because an album is better (all objective) doesn't mean it doesn't deserve 5 mics. Oh, and The Naked Truth got 5 mics, so that system is flawed anyway. I just use it loosely to rate albums based on my own opinion, and to me Em's first 3 albums are flawless, regardless if other albums are better, and there are.

ok the bolded just ended this guys credibility. eminem himself doesnt even believe this

My opinion... fuck credibility.
 
Ajax McJones;4913617 said:
rating a rapper purely on catalouges is kinda stupid anyway, look at jadakiss

You wouldn't rate a great actor as great with shitty movies would you. Dinero, Pacino,etc are great because they have the discography to back it up, numerous classic movies along with their skillset as actors. Catalog is the most important part of an artist legacy.
 
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PK_TK_187;4908707 said:
PK_TK_187;4908707 said:
this thread can be made about anyone from Jay to Nas to BIG

the only difference is, they wont have done as much as Em when you compare the careers

Those rappers you mentioned haven't released as much garbage material as Eminem has. I remember how heads blasted Nas when he dropped Nastradamus and how fans blasted Jay when he dropped BP2 but neither of those albums were as bad as Eminem's worst albums. If you look at Em's discography you can't do anything but conclude that he's not top 10. Like I said before he released way too much garbage and his albums lack impact and replay value. He's nice, one of the nicest to ever do it, but he can't make songs or drop cohesive albums. If I could compare him to any rapper it'd be Inspactah Deck. Great on other people's sh*t but can't drop hot albums...
 
Muhannad X;4920758 said:
If I could compare him to any rapper it'd be Inspactah Deck. Great on other people's sh*t but can't drop hot albums...

I wouldn't even compare that wack ass rapper to Rebel INS. Deck was on classic records such as CREAM and Triumph, he was on classic/superior albums as well (Enter the Wu, OB4CL, etc.). Not to mention Eminem never dropped a diss record as dope as "House Nigga."

Deck >>> Eminem.
 
DMTxCannabis;4924179 said:
Muhannad X;4920758 said:
If I could compare him to any rapper it'd be Inspactah Deck. Great on other people's sh*t but can't drop hot albums...

I wouldn't even compare that wack ass rapper to Rebel INS. Deck was on classic records such as CREAM and Triumph, he was on classic/superior albums as well (Enter the Wu, OB4CL, etc.). Not to mention Eminem never dropped a diss record as dope as "House Nigga."

Deck >>> Eminem.

If you hate the dude why must you continue to talk about him? Sounds like someone else I know on this board
 
icecoldstew;4924190 said:
DMTxCannabis;4924179 said:
Muhannad X;4920758 said:
If I could compare him to any rapper it'd be Inspactah Deck. Great on other people's sh*t but can't drop hot albums...

I wouldn't even compare that wack ass rapper to Rebel INS. Deck was on classic records such as CREAM and Triumph, he was on classic/superior albums as well (Enter the Wu, OB4CL, etc.). Not to mention Eminem never dropped a diss record as dope as "House Nigga."

Deck >>> Eminem.

If you hate the dude why must you continue to talk about him? Sounds like someone else I know on this board

LOL, I don't hate Eminem. I just really dislike his music.

...you act as if I should only post my opinions about rappers that I like.
 
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DMTxCannabis;4922978 said:
Music by Eminem, Hopsin, OJ Da Juiceman, Lil B and Plies.

"Really dislike", puttin the nigga in the same category as those clowns in the "Shit U Dont Like". U might as well hate him. Can almost guarantee you dont talk about them dudes as much as u talk about Em.
 
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icecoldstew;4924214 said:
DMTxCannabis;4922978 said:
Music by Eminem, Hopsin, OJ Da Juiceman, Lil B and Plies.

"Really dislike", puttin the nigga in the same category as those clowns in the "Shit U Dont Like". U might as well hate him. Can almost guarantee you dont talk about them dudes as much as u talk about Em.

Lol, that list was the first set of rappers that popped up in my mind that made music that I don't like.

And you're right, I never talked about those dudes as much as Em. Why? because Em is brought up more frequently. But if you must know, I never really said anything positive about them either.

 
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Eminem is one of the greatest technical mc to ever spit on a mic, Em still relevant and has two classic album, that is why he is Hip-Hop's top ten ..
 
usmarin3;4913846 said:
Ajax McJones;4913617 said:
rating a rapper purely on catalouges is kinda stupid anyway, look at jadakiss

You wouldn't rate a great actor as great with shitty movies would you. Dinero, Pacino,etc are great because they have the discography to back it up, numerous classic movies along with their skillset as actors. Catalog is the most important part of an artist legacy.

Filmography
 
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