How is Eminem anywhere near a top 10 rapper based on catalog alone?

[DMTxTHC]

GhostfaceSeason = Shadyteam?

 

[genocidecutter]

The bitch is back

 

[LUClEN]

Considering how much external help goes into an album - from producers, to ghost writers, to assistant writers, to mixing engineers, to A&R involvement and more, it seems ridiculous to give a rapper all the credit for the outcome of an album. In this sense, how can you call kanye a better rapper than Eminem when Kanye has reportedly had ghost writers (and more recently alleged ghost producers) ?

 

[blackgod813]

Listen when I eat kfc I dont give a fuck if a cracker from a plantation kooked it...anywayzz im a early Def poet kanye fan back when black power was at the forefront

 

[H-Rap 180]

Rapper he should have stayed in a cipher then.....kanye west has better content ...I don't like redman either maybe thats why eminem is just eh ..its about content if the man raping about sucking dick an killing his moms who kares if he can rap?look what he's raping about

That's the secret of Emenims success outside of the racist tapes he made and then denied making.

We don't come from a culture were we rap about sexually-assaulting our own mothers and sucking our step-fathers penis.

It's sad how we allowed this cultural outsider to diss our cultural icon Michael Jackson and make a mockery of HipHop culture by bringing homosexual activities like mooning & tea-bagging into it.

This ex-Klansman gets a pass from these geeks for his filth and depravity because he has complex rhyme schemes GTFOH.

http://thesebootsaremadeforstalking.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/eminem-bruno-mtv-movie-awards.jpg[/quote]

Not mad at all just sharing my opinion with the brothers on here.

I wonder if the pale-Donkeys will make multiple threads about how Slaughterhouse just sold 50K first week with Emenim executive-producing their album & awesome guests like Skylar Grey & B.O.B?

T/S was correct in his assessment of Emenim and his catalog.

 

[blackgod813]

But he's a better artist to my taste he kooks soul or atleast attempts tomake soul food eminem makes fusion bullshit mixed with Marilyn MANSON shock value

 

[usmarin3]

Considering how much external help goes into an album - from producers, to ghost writers, to assistant writers, to mixing engineers, to A&R involvement and more, it seems ridiculous to give a rapper all the credit for the outcome of an album. In this sense, how can you call kanye a better rapper than Eminem when Kanye has reportedly had ghost writers (and more recently alleged ghost producers) ?

Kanye isn't a better rapper, he is a better producer and better overall artist though.

LOL at external help going to an album, you making excuses for Em's wack ass catalog now. Like the mf don't have access to the best producers in the game (Alchemist, Dre, Hi Tek,Scott Storch,etc) and the best engineer in the game with Dr. Dre. There is absolutely no excuses for Eminem, the mf was set up to win.

 

[Stew]

Rapper he should have stayed in a cipher then.....kanye west has better content ...I don't like redman either maybe thats why eminem is just eh ..its about content if the man raping about sucking dick an killing his moms who kares if he can rap?look what he's raping about

That's the secret of Emenims success outside of the racist tapes he made and then denied making.

We don't come from a culture were we rap about sexually-assaulting our own mothers and sucking our step-fathers penis.

It's sad how we allowed this cultural outsider to diss our cultural icon Michael Jackson and make a mockery of HipHop culture by bringing homosexual activities like mooning & tea-bagging into it.

This ex-Klansman gets a pass from these geeks for his filth and depravity because he has complex rhyme schemes GTFOH.

http://thesebootsaremadeforstalking.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/eminem-bruno-mtv-movie-awards.jpg[/quote]

Not mad at all just sharing my opinion with the brothers on here.

I wonder if the pale-Donkeys will make multiple threads about how Slaughterhouse just sold 50K first week with Emenim executive-producing their album & awesome guests like Skylar Grey & B.O.B?

T/S was correct in his assessment of Emenim and his catalog.[/quote]

Yes u are mad.

Why don't u make the thread? O wait

 

[LUClEN]

Considering how much external help goes into an album - from producers, to ghost writers, to assistant writers, to mixing engineers, to A&R involvement and more, it seems ridiculous to give a rapper all the credit for the outcome of an album. In this sense, how can you call kanye a better rapper than Eminem when Kanye has reportedly had ghost writers (and more recently alleged ghost producers) ?

Kanye isn't a better rapper, he is a better producer and better overall artist though.

LOL at external help going to an album, you making excuses for Em's wack ass catalog now. Like the mf don't have access to the best producers in the game (Alchemist, Dre, Hi Tek,Scott Storch,etc) and the best engineer in the game with Dr. Dre. There is absolutely no excuses for Eminem, the mf was set up to win.

I excused nothing, it is just overzealous to put all the responsibility of an entire album in the hands of the rapper when they're not doing the whole thing alone - they have a whole team that holds that responsibility too.

 

[andre_1024]

LOL at external help going to an album, you making excuses for Em's wack ass catalog now. Like the mf don't have access to the best producers in the game (Alchemist, Dre, Hi Tek,Scott Storch,etc) and the best engineer in the game with Dr. Dre. There is absolutely no excuses for Eminem, the mf was set up to win.

Soo you're saying Em lost?

His impact, the respect amongst his peers based on his rapping abilities and his 4 solid to great albums means he lost? That's not even including his rewards and record sales because obviously his race has something to do with that..maybe you're not saying he lost (even tho that's what it sounds like) but come on man, let's not overreact based on two underwhelming albums

 

[jono]

Rant & sidebar:

Considering how much external help goes into an album - from producers, to ghost writers, to assistant writers, to mixing engineers, to A&R involvement and more, it seems ridiculous to give a rapper all the credit for the outcome of an album. In this sense, how can you call kanye a better rapper than Eminem when Kanye has reportedly had ghost writers (and more recently alleged ghost producers) ?

Kanye isn't a better rapper, he is a better producer and better overall artist though.

LOL at external help going to an album, you making excuses for Em's wack ass catalog now. Like the mf don't have access to the best producers in the game (Alchemist, Dre, Hi Tek,Scott Storch,etc) and the best engineer in the game with Dr. Dre. There is absolutely no excuses for Eminem, the mf was set up to win.

Fuck eminem for a second, but what difference does the beat make? The beat should capture the sound your going for. And its often that artists have the best producer for their particular sound. Organized Noise, Salaam Remi, Traxter etc aren't huge household names and yet they produced shit that people have rocked with over the years. I just don't see why big name production is necessary.

/rant

/sidebar

 

[H-Rap 180]

Rapper he should have stayed in a cipher then.....kanye west has better content ...I don't like redman either maybe thats why eminem is just eh ..its about content if the man raping about sucking dick an killing his moms who kares if he can rap?look what he's raping about

That's the secret of Emenims success outside of the racist tapes he made and then denied making.

We don't come from a culture were we rap about sexually-assaulting our own mothers and sucking our step-fathers penis.

It's sad how we allowed this cultural outsider to diss our cultural icon Michael Jackson and make a mockery of HipHop culture by bringing homosexual activities like mooning & tea-bagging into it.

This ex-Klansman gets a pass from these geeks for his filth and depravity because he has complex rhyme schemes GTFOH.

http://thesebootsaremadeforstalking.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/eminem-bruno-mtv-movie-awards.jpg[/quote]

Not mad at all just sharing my opinion with the brothers on here.

I wonder if the pale-Donkeys will make multiple threads about how Slaughterhouse just sold 50K first week with Emenim executive-producing their album & awesome guests like Skylar Grey & B.O.B?

T/S was correct in his assessment of Emenim and his catalog.[/quote]

Yes u are mad.

Why don't u make the thread? O wait[/quote]

I don't make Emenim threads but if you want to see multiple threads shitting on Emenim then just give me the word and I can make it happen.

Sad that so many of you Mules are making outlandish excuses for Emenims weak catalog...yeah blame it on the engieneer who mixed the sound. LOL.

 

[usmarin3]

Considering how much external help goes into an album - from producers, to ghost writers, to assistant writers, to mixing engineers, to A&R involvement and more, it seems ridiculous to give a rapper all the credit for the outcome of an album. In this sense, how can you call kanye a better rapper than Eminem when Kanye has reportedly had ghost writers (and more recently alleged ghost producers) ?

Kanye isn't a better rapper, he is a better producer and better overall artist though.

LOL at external help going to an album, you making excuses for Em's wack ass catalog now. Like the mf don't have access to the best producers in the game (Alchemist, Dre, Hi Tek,Scott Storch,etc) and the best engineer in the game with Dr. Dre. There is absolutely no excuses for Eminem, the mf was set up to win.

I excused nothing, it is just overzealous to put all the responsibility of an entire album in the hands of the rapper when they're not doing the whole thing alone - they have a whole team that holds that responsibility too.

Considering how much external help goes into an album - from producers, to ghost writers, to assistant writers, to mixing engineers, to A&R involvement and more, it seems ridiculous to give a rapper all the credit for the outcome of an album. In this sense, how can you call kanye a better rapper than Eminem when Kanye has reportedly had ghost writers (and more recently alleged ghost producers) ?

Kanye isn't a better rapper, he is a better producer and better overall artist though.

LOL at external help going to an album, you making excuses for Em's wack ass catalog now. Like the mf don't have access to the best producers in the game (Alchemist, Dre, Hi Tek,Scott Storch,etc) and the best engineer in the game with Dr. Dre. There is absolutely no excuses for Eminem, the mf was set up to win.

I excused nothing, it is just overzealous to put all the responsibility of an entire album in the hands of the rapper when they're not doing the whole thing alone - they have a whole team that holds that responsibility too.

So you're saying the biggest selling rapper ever doesn't have creative control over his own project. lmfao

Ain't nobody selecting beats for him and writing his rhymes, therefor a 100 percent of the responsibility is on him, even those corny ass singles. Don't blame Dre, Jimmy Iovine,etc because we all know them corny ass songs are in Eminems nature, can't nobody force them wack shits.

 

[CracceR]

Considering how much external help goes into an album - from producers, to ghost writers, to assistant writers, to mixing engineers, to A&R involvement and more, it seems ridiculous to give a rapper all the credit for the outcome of an album. In this sense, how can you call kanye a better rapper than Eminem when Kanye has reportedly had ghost writers (and more recently alleged ghost producers) ?

Kanye isn't a better rapper, he is a better producer and better overall artist though.

LOL at external help going to an album, you making excuses for Em's wack ass catalog now. Like the mf don't have access to the best producers in the game (Alchemist, Dre, Hi Tek,Scott Storch,etc) and the best engineer in the game with Dr. Dre. There is absolutely no excuses for Eminem, the mf was set up to win.

thats true ems beat selection ability is probably worse than nas

 

[LUClEN]

Considering how much external help goes into an album - from producers, to ghost writers, to assistant writers, to mixing engineers, to A&R involvement and more, it seems ridiculous to give a rapper all the credit for the outcome of an album. In this sense, how can you call kanye a better rapper than Eminem when Kanye has reportedly had ghost writers (and more recently alleged ghost producers) ?

Kanye isn't a better rapper, he is a better producer and better overall artist though.

LOL at external help going to an album, you making excuses for Em's wack ass catalog now. Like the mf don't have access to the best producers in the game (Alchemist, Dre, Hi Tek,Scott Storch,etc) and the best engineer in the game with Dr. Dre. There is absolutely no excuses for Eminem, the mf was set up to win.

I excused nothing, it is just overzealous to put all the responsibility of an entire album in the hands of the rapper when they're not doing the whole thing alone - they have a whole team that holds that responsibility too.

Considering how much external help goes into an album - from producers, to ghost writers, to assistant writers, to mixing engineers, to A&R involvement and more, it seems ridiculous to give a rapper all the credit for the outcome of an album. In this sense, how can you call kanye a better rapper than Eminem when Kanye has reportedly had ghost writers (and more recently alleged ghost producers) ?

Kanye isn't a better rapper, he is a better producer and better overall artist though.

LOL at external help going to an album, you making excuses for Em's wack ass catalog now. Like the mf don't have access to the best producers in the game (Alchemist, Dre, Hi Tek,Scott Storch,etc) and the best engineer in the game with Dr. Dre. There is absolutely no excuses for Eminem, the mf was set up to win.

I excused nothing, it is just overzealous to put all the responsibility of an entire album in the hands of the rapper when they're not doing the whole thing alone - they have a whole team that holds that responsibility too.

So you're saying the biggest selling rapper ever doesn't have creative control over his own project. lmfao

Ain't nobody selecting beats for him and writing his rhymes, therefor a 100 percent of the responsibility is on him, even those corny ass singles. Don't blame Dre, Jimmy Iovine,etc because we all know them corny ass songs are in Eminems nature, can't nobody force them wack shits.

Where did I say he doesn't have creative control?

Since you seem to struggle with this lemme break it down, aight?

One player is not responsible for the work of an entire team. Capiche?

 

[usmarin3]

Rant & sidebar:

Considering how much external help goes into an album - from producers, to ghost writers, to assistant writers, to mixing engineers, to A&R involvement and more, it seems ridiculous to give a rapper all the credit for the outcome of an album. In this sense, how can you call kanye a better rapper than Eminem when Kanye has reportedly had ghost writers (and more recently alleged ghost producers) ?

Kanye isn't a better rapper, he is a better producer and better overall artist though.

LOL at external help going to an album, you making excuses for Em's wack ass catalog now. Like the mf don't have access to the best producers in the game (Alchemist, Dre, Hi Tek,Scott Storch,etc) and the best engineer in the game with Dr. Dre. There is absolutely no excuses for Eminem, the mf was set up to win.

Fuck eminem for a second, but what difference does the beat make? The beat should capture the sound your going for. And its often that artists have the best producer for their particular sound. Organized Noise, Salaam Remi, Traxter etc aren't huge household names and yet they produced shit that people have rocked with over the years. I just don't see why big name production is necessary.

/rant

/sidebar

Dude was saying Kanye got external help from other artist, that's what i was responding to. Eminem has more access than Ye does.

 

[blackgod813]

Your team is on u anyone who has made music knoows your homboy might be lik naw god say it lik that ...then u say no...latter on realize he was right ....but its your project your ship papa

 

[usmarin3]

Your team is on u anyone who has made music knoows your homboy might be lik naw god say it lik that ...then u say no...latter on realize he was right ....but its your project your ship papa

Just let him keep making excuses for Em. lol

 

[sully]

slim shady aint in my top 10..

I have never bought/bootlegged a slim shady album..

I dont check for slim shady release dates or concerts..

I think his beat making skills are terrible..

his subject matter is shallow, cheesy white boy shit..

and his voice is annoying as fuck..

How can you know that if you've never bought or bootlegged any of his albums?

 

[LUClEN]

Your team is on u anyone who has made music knoows your homboy might be lik naw god say it lik that ...then u say no...latter on realize he was right ....but its your project your ship papa

Just let him keep making excuses for Em. lol

I'm not making excuses. All the rappers that fail to move as many units as him do it all day everyday though.