How did Prodigy fall off so hard?

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I aint gonna lie.......that nigga P is one of the illest......and Jay-Z put a stain on his career, by showing him paying homage to MJ......

But shit man P is fucking animal.......havent heard to much recent stuff......but P got classics....

when i think about it, he Jay-Z with some ether also.......
 
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if u look at prodigy rhyme schemes on paper he was basically a one syllable rhymer

he was not impressive to me.
 
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Its like he doesn't even bother to rhyme anymore. I haven't really liked anything he's done since the Infamy album. When it comes to flow i go with Havoc, lyrically it goes to P
 
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he was never really that good to begin with his voice just complimented the dark production so good you don't really notice his pen game kinda sucked. when it got deeper it didnt go as well with the beats, so it was more obvious
 
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juelz21;3030506 said:
makaveli >> prodigy.

Prodigy was one of the most sampled voices in hip hop, can't say the same about Pac....LMAO! @ P not being lyrical but you're a card carrying member of the Pac-a-teers. Fuck outta here you Sohh reject...if the both of them hopped on a track back then, Pac would've gotten smoked...
 
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lamontbdc;3029726 said:
he got super lazy didn't even rhyme. looking back p was overrated in his prime a nice mc and a lot better than he is now though. dude is barely listenable anymore.

Word... All P does now is talk to you... feel like you getting lectured from some dude that just came home... oh wait, he did
 
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BTW P's verse on Live Nigga Rap was his best work IMO

[video=youtube;Z-mIuYyIytA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-mIuYyIytA[/video]

Yo NYC you N I verse seriously

Havoc and P Queens niggas so it seem to be

Monopolize strategies of war exercise mega

Got word back from Noreaga

The D.A. got video cassette taper

The God with the God-you-Now, pulling a caper

Running up in the spot, mask and duct taped up

Pig tied they motherfucking wrists to they ankles

I been through, crime shit my niggas in-to

Peep the issue situation like this, we sticking him too

JFK on our way to L.A.

Got links with big cats down to Santa Barbre (Barbara)

My crew do it the Mobb way, everyday

Crime pay, who wanted gun play? Drill me

Niggas kill me, thrilling me, you want to look?

Peep the nine milli, now undress, you know the drill-why

Niggas suspect, weak links pose threats, I have yet

To met challenger who go against my set

Gem stars razor sharp like Gillette, shaving closely on

Any character approach me

I let the streets get the best of me, infamy, my destiny

While cat burglars trying to sneak peep the recipe

Inside my rap cookbook, paragraphs is gourmet

You pay about $5,000 a plate
 
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Several reason

-he was never that good to begin with
-he got shitted on by 3 of the top 5 rappers of all time(package, Jay, nas)
-50 cent shitted on him then he proceeded to sign with g unit and tatoo the brand on his hand
-the nigga rarely even rhymes
-constantly getting robbed
 
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juelz21;3030514 said:
if u look at prodigy rhyme schemes on paper he was basically a one syllable rhymer

he was not impressive to me.

a tupac fan calling someone non-lyrical?? on on the IC..bunch of jokers
 
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reverend_al;3031481 said:
a tupac fan calling someone non-lyrical?? on on the IC..bunch of jokers

is that the best agrument u got is that im a pac fan

get the fuck outta here.
 
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southsil4lil;3031228 said:
Several reason

-he was never that good to begin with

-he got shitted on by 3 of the top 5 rappers of all time(package, Jay, nas)

-50 cent shitted on him then he proceeded to sign with g unit and tatoo the brand on his hand

-the nigga rarely even rhymes

-constantly getting robbed

Co-sign. Prodigy was dope, but a lot of the things being said about present-day Prodigy has always applied to him. Even in Prodigy's prime, he talked his way through his bars. He always had the free-verse style where he only ocassionally rhymed. To say he's lazy now because of he talks his way through verses and barely rhymes is like saying he was always lazy.

IMO, Prodigy kind of struggled through Infamy, Amerikaz Nightmare and Blood Money. I happen to think he reached his peak with Murda Muzik. It was proof that he could hold down an album by himself. Lyrically, I don't think he could go bar far bar with the greats. Yes, he's bested Nas once or twice on collabos, but album for album or song for song, nah. I still say that it's pretty contradictory to call Pac a non-lyrical rapper and then praise Prodigy as a great.
 
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georgia boi;3033303 said:
Co-sign. Prodigy was dope, but a lot of the things being said about present-day Prodigy has always applied to him. Even in Prodigy's prime, he talked his way through his bars. He always had the free-verse style where he only ocassionally rhymed. To say he's lazy now because of he talks his way through verses and barely rhymes is like saying he was always lazy.

IMO, Prodigy kind of struggled through Infamy, Amerikaz Nightmare and Blood Money. I happen to think he reached his peak with Murda Muzik. It was proof that he could hold down an album by himself. Lyrically, I don't think he could go bar far bar with the greats. Yes, he's bested Nas once or twice on collabos, but album for album or song for song, nah. I still say that it's pretty contradictory to call Pac a non-lyrical rapper and then praise Prodigy as a great.

I can agree with some of the things you are saying but saying he talked through his bars in his prime and occasionally rhymed is what i can't agree with. I his prime P was nice with the wordplay and flow. Dude was holding his own with cats on collabs left and right. (He could never outshine Big Noyd though). I think sometimes we forget how nice P was because he hasn't spit like the old P in 7 or 8 years. I do agree with the first sentence of your second paragraph though. IMO after Murder Muzik the Prodigy that was nice on the mic was gone.

And to add, maybe it was just me but it seemed like his flow and voice changed over night. Its almost like he forgot how to rap.
 
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lamontbdc;3029726 said:
he got super lazy didn't even rhyme. looking back p was overrated in his prime a nice mc and a lot better than he is now though. dude is barely listenable anymore.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ and once dude started takin L's them bitches came in bunches
 
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agreed, and i been saying this since like 03 but i was hoping he just got lazy and would step it up eventually but nah he just fell off completely, i still rank P in my top 15 but thats from 94-01 P, anything else is irrelevant to me, the worst part is i know people that still defend him like he never fell off and come up with all these excuses for him, as much as a fan as i am of old mobb deep i still tell it how it is, he sucks and the next mobb deep album will be disapointing
 
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