How Come Biggie Never Directly Responded to Tupac?

[buttuh_b]

All I see is a bunch of excuses. Please save it. Your man was shook. That's it.

 

[SELASI_i]

That's crazy how after pac got shot in NYC he made sure he smoked a blunt immediately afterwards lol

 

[T. Sanford]

All I see is a bunch of excuses. Please save it. Your man was shook. That's it.

The reason is Biggie friendly & preach to put it in a rap but Biggie is excluded from the equation smh. I'm not saying that you should respond to those who are inferior (I can see if someone like E.D.I Mean, Kastro was dissing) but as a Hip Hop MC, if a superior or anyone that's on your level of fame attacks you then you have to attack them back. Imagine the ridicule if the roles was switch.

 

[5 Grand]

2 Pac dies a few months after Hit Em Up was released. There was no social media back then so news traveled kinda slow. I think 2 Pac died before Big got a chance to respond.

Everybody nosigned me, but consider this;

When LL and Kool Moe Dee were beefing, Kool Moe Dee sent out the first shot in 1987, they went back and forth a few rounds and LL didn't drop To Da Break Of Dawn until the spring of 1990 (it was on the House Party Soundtrack). The final diss was Death Blow by Kool Moe Dee which came out in 1991.

If that was the protocol then Biggie might have thought that their beef was going to take several rounds of back and forth. He might have expected the beef to take years.

According to wikipedia,

All Eyez on Me is the fourth studio album by American rapper 2Pac, released on February 13, 1996 under Death Row Records and distributed by Interscope Records.

"How Do U Want It" is a hip-hop song performed by Tupac Shakur. The third single from his album All Eyez on Me, it features R&B duo K-Ci & JoJo, who at the time were best known as the lead singers of Jodeci. The song debuted June 16, 1996. It was a Double A-side single to "California Love" in America, and the song reached #1 on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100 and #17 in the UK in 1996.

So according to wikipedia, All Eyes On Me was released on Feb 11, 1996 while the EP containing Hit Em Up was released on June 16 (which by my recollection seems about right). 2Pac was shot on September 7, 1996.

2Pac was shot 83 days after Hit Em Up was released.

In comparison, Takeover was released on Sep 11, 2001 and Ether came out on December 4, 2001. Ether was released 84 days after Takeover

2Pac was shot 83 days after Hit Em Up was released and died on the 90th day.

Ether was released 84 days after Takeover was released.

Lets go back to my initial post on page 1;

2 Pac dies a few months after Hit Em Up was released. There was no social media back then so news traveled kinda slow. I think 2 Pac died before Big got a chance to respond.

If Biggie waited the exact same amount of time Nas waited to release Ether then 2Pac would have been laid out in the hospital when Big released his diss.

I stand by my original theory that 2Pac died before Biggie got a chance to respond.

 

[nawledge_god]

The Outlawz Damn Near Ruined "Hit Em Up" For Along With A Few Other Pac Classics

"Get Out The Way Yo, Get Out Way Yo..." Man STFU...I Always Fast Forward Anything They On

 

[Shizlansky]

Biggie was acting soft interviews and everything.

Fat fag.

 

[GetoBoy]

The same niggas giving all these excuse for why it was ok for Big not to respond are the same ones who was giving Meek 47 minutes to respond to a song questioning if a damn tour called "prinkprint tour" was really his tour or his girl tour....Big and Puff ain't want no smoke simple

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

The same niggas giving all these excuse for why it was ok for Big not to respond are the same ones who was giving Meek 47 minutes to respond to a song e

name names nigga

 

[jono]

2 Pac dies a few months after Hit Em Up was released. There was no social media back then so news traveled kinda slow. I think 2 Pac died before Big got a chance to respond.

Everybody nosigned me, but consider this;

When LL and Kool Moe Dee were beefing, Kool Moe Dee sent out the first shot in 1987, they went back and forth a few rounds and LL didn't drop To Da Break Of Dawn until the spring of 1990 (it was on the House Party Soundtrack). The final diss was Death Blow by Kool Moe Dee which came out in 1991.

If that was the protocol then Biggie might have thought that their beef was going to take several rounds of back and forth. He might have expected the beef to take years.

According to wikipedia,

All Eyez on Me is the fourth studio album by American rapper 2Pac, released on February 13, 1996 under Death Row Records and distributed by Interscope Records.

"How Do U Want It" is a hip-hop song performed by Tupac Shakur. The third single from his album All Eyez on Me, it features R&B duo K-Ci & JoJo, who at the time were best known as the lead singers of Jodeci. The song debuted June 16, 1996. It was a Double A-side single to "California Love" in America, and the song reached #1 on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100 and #17 in the UK in 1996.

So according to wikipedia, All Eyes On Me was released on Feb 11, 1996 while the EP containing Hit Em Up was released on June 16 (which by my recollection seems about right). 2Pac was shot on September 7, 1996.

2Pac was shot 83 days after Hit Em Up was released.

In comparison, Takeover was released on Sep 11, 2001 and Ether came out on December 4, 2001. Ether was released 84 days after Takeover

2Pac was shot 83 days after Hit Em Up was released and died on the 90th day.

Ether was released 84 days after Takeover was released.

Lets go back to my initial post on page 1;

2 Pac dies a few months after Hit Em Up was released. There was no social media back then so news traveled kinda slow. I think 2 Pac died before Big got a chance to respond.

If Biggie waited the exact same amount of time Nas waited to release Ether then 2Pac would have been laid out in the hospital when Big released his diss.

I stand by my original theory that 2Pac died before Biggie got a chance to respond.

Damn...that's some interesting shit here.

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

Cease and someone else already came out and said long kiss goodnight was already recorded before pac died but once pac died and reworked the song to what we got now

 

[GetoBoy]

The same niggas giving all these excuse for why it was ok for Big not to respond are the same ones who was giving Meek 47 minutes to respond to a song e

name names nigga

Hit dogs holler

 

[2pacnbiggie]

Just a simple question looking for a simple answer. This is not a Biggie vs. Pac thread or anything like that. I'm just simply curious.

It seems to me that Biggie could've destroyed Pac on wax, but he chose not to. I guess you could ask the same about why he didn't go after Nas, Jeru, Raekwon and Ghost, Craig Mack, etc.

Like KRS, Biggie was a natural battle rapper. So he gets dissed with "Hit Em Up" and does nothing but crack a few jokes and maybe a few subliminals?

The question has obviously come up before, and there are obvious rumors, but I can't remember any definitive answers. I know I'm missing something because it doesn't make much sense to me for Biggie to suddenly turn pacifist like that, so please enlighten a brother.

biggie responded to nas on victory

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

Just a simple question looking for a simple answer. This is not a Biggie vs. Pac thread or anything like that. I'm just simply curious.

It seems to me that Biggie could've destroyed Pac on wax, but he chose not to. I guess you could ask the same about why he didn't go after Nas, Jeru, Raekwon and Ghost, Craig Mack, etc.

Like KRS, Biggie was a natural battle rapper. So he gets dissed with "Hit Em Up" and does nothing but crack a few jokes and maybe a few subliminals?

The question has obviously come up before, and there are obvious rumors, but I can't remember any definitive answers. I know I'm missing something because it doesn't make much sense to me for Biggie to suddenly turn pacifist like that, so please enlighten a brother.

biggie responded to nas on victory

Yeah but that was the last song he recorded which was nearly a year later

 

[Antwuan89]

Pac stans are too much #SMH

 

[aneed123]

Its funny seeing folk just rewrite history. I remember the passive aggressive tone from biggie in interviews and the slick liness in songs after pac died. Now all of a sudden biggie the victim Smh

 

[buttuh_b]

Its funny seeing folk just rewrite history. I remember the passive aggressive tone from biggie in interviews and the slick liness in songs after pac died. Now all of a sudden biggie the victim Smh

People super hypocritical and hard headed. Not getting on Biggie for not responding to the most disrespectful diss record ever when you supposed to be some top mc is completely contradictory to everything hip hop is about.

A lot of the people dick eating in the thread is the reason the rest of the country look at us like funny boys.

 

[5 Grand]

Its funny seeing folk just rewrite history. I remember the passive aggressive tone from biggie in interviews and the slick liness in songs after pac died. Now all of a sudden biggie the victim Smh

People super hypocritical and hard headed. Not getting on Biggie for not responding to the most disrespectful diss record ever when you supposed to be some top mc is completely contradictory to everything hip hop is about.

A lot of the people dick eating in the thread is the reason the rest of the country look at us like funny boys.

Pac died 90 days after Hit Em Up was released.

Big just didn't have the proper amount of time to address the situation. How hard is that to understand?

People use the "chess not checkers" analogy all the time. If somebody disses you like that you're not gonna rush to the studio and make a hasty diss (like Jay did with SupaUgly) You're gonna plan it out and strike accordingly. But Pac died while Big was in the process of responding.

 

[Javon803]

Its funny seeing folk just rewrite history. I remember the passive aggressive tone from biggie in interviews and the slick liness in songs after pac died. Now all of a sudden biggie the victim Smh

People super hypocritical and hard headed. Not getting on Biggie for not responding to the most disrespectful diss record ever when you supposed to be some top mc is completely contradictory to everything hip hop is about.

A lot of the people dick eating in the thread is the reason the rest of the country look at us like funny boys.

Pac died 90 days after Hit Em Up was released.

Big just didn't have the proper amount of time to address the situation. How hard is that to understand?

People use the "chess not checkers" analogy all the time. If somebody disses you like that you're not gonna rush to the studio and make a hasty diss (like Jay did with SupaUgly) You're gonna plan it out and strike accordingly. But Pac died while Big was in the process of responding.

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better smh

 

[Javon803]

Pac stans are too much #SMH

Yeah they probably just as bad as biggie stans

 

[south4life]

Big respected Pac, I feel like had people did what Pac said and Stay Out Of It they would have eventually squashed it.