How Come Biggie Never Directly Responded to Tupac?

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qawshun;8835776 said:
Jabu_Rule;8835021 said:
5 Grand;8834905 said:
Big was in the height of his career, at his apex when all of this was going down. While Pac had all these legal issues with the police and the rape charge, Big was living the life. He had hit records and was going to award shows. In other words, 2Pac was mad at the world, but Biggie wasn't. Biggie was happy with the way his life was going so he didn't have any anger in him, not like 2Pac.

Think about it, 2Pac still had that rape case. Just because Suge bailed him out on an appeal he still had to go to trial again for the same case. He was stuck on Death Row and he obviously wasn't happy. Suge was treating him like a bitch and wasn't paying him. He was really mad at the world.

Biggie on the other hand seemed happy at Bad Boy, he had hits on the radio and everybody in New York was showing him love. Biggie just didn't have the same anger in him that 2Pac had so he couldn't respond to Hit Em Up accordingly. 2Pac had pretty much gone insane while Biggie was still thinking rationally.

Also, Big didn't have any beef with the West Coast. He was cool with Snoop and didn't want to burn any bridges.

Big wasn't about to jump out of the plane without a parachute the way 2Pac did.

Biggie wasn't completely happy. His bm was fucking is former friend and he just survived a accident that left him limping. He was also fatter then he ever was. Mark Curry said Biggie was planning to leave Bad Boy. He already had his own label with his man from the hood.

Still happier than pac tho, with records spinning, side chick Charlie Baltimore, nut guzzling kim big was good pac was mad real easy math

This shit has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but nigga, Pac fucked just about every bad bitch in the 90s, and you talkin bout lil kim? smh

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To be honest, i rather people not say names on a track. It decreases the quality of the song imo. It's like saying 96, or shouting out fubu. When Biggie weaved his disses into the track, it made the verse more independent. They were obvious enough to know who he was speaking on.
 
numbaz...80's baby;8835863 said:
Did Biggie ever directly diss anybody? I always thought it was his "style" to be the "subliminal" "witty" rapper.

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Being a bitch is never "witty".
 
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Jabu_Rule;8836003 said:
To be honest, i rather people not say names on a track. It decreases the quality of the song imo. It's like saying 96, or shouting out fubu. When Biggie weaved his disses into the track, it made the verse more independent. They were obvious enough to know who he was speaking on.

I actually agree somewhat to what you are saying, in a general song I think you are right and I understand what youre getting at...

But a diss track or a battle track last forever and is different to a GENRAL song. But like you say a general track wont age aswell if you are talking about fads or brands or people that are popular at the time...

At the end of the day diss tracks and battle tracks are better when they call names out...
 
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Wrong, name the top 5 diss records and I guarantee they all named names.

Half the time the person wasnt even talking about who yall think they were and even after they come out and say they weren't there's still mfs who be like "nah, he really was , it's only for the people who really know to know tho" foh. Shit's corny af. Especially when a nigga talked about fuckin ur wife and put out pics and your response is if your wife had twins it would be 2 of the nigga who fucked ur wife? smh
 
_Goldie_;8835997 said:
qawshun;8835776 said:
Jabu_Rule;8835021 said:
5 Grand;8834905 said:
Big was in the height of his career, at his apex when all of this was going down. While Pac had all these legal issues with the police and the rape charge, Big was living the life. He had hit records and was going to award shows. In other words, 2Pac was mad at the world, but Biggie wasn't. Biggie was happy with the way his life was going so he didn't have any anger in him, not like 2Pac.

Think about it, 2Pac still had that rape case. Just because Suge bailed him out on an appeal he still had to go to trial again for the same case. He was stuck on Death Row and he obviously wasn't happy. Suge was treating him like a bitch and wasn't paying him. He was really mad at the world.

Biggie on the other hand seemed happy at Bad Boy, he had hits on the radio and everybody in New York was showing him love. Biggie just didn't have the same anger in him that 2Pac had so he couldn't respond to Hit Em Up accordingly. 2Pac had pretty much gone insane while Biggie was still thinking rationally.

Also, Big didn't have any beef with the West Coast. He was cool with Snoop and didn't want to burn any bridges.

Big wasn't about to jump out of the plane without a parachute the way 2Pac did.

Biggie wasn't completely happy. His bm was fucking is former friend and he just survived a accident that left him limping. He was also fatter then he ever was. Mark Curry said Biggie was planning to leave Bad Boy. He already had his own label with his man from the hood.

Still happier than pac tho, with records spinning, side chick Charlie Baltimore, nut guzzling kim big was good pac was mad real easy math

This shit has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but nigga, Pac fucked just about every bad bitch in the 90s, and you talkin bout lil kim? smh

HlUuuZP.gif

:/ yeah, I'm responding to dude post so yeah it applies.
 
Lol 101 diss records but only one towards the niggas that actually had something to do with his situation. Niggas overlook the fact also that tupac spent all his time dissing someone who had nothing to do with his shit. Lame ass shit. Biggie already warned him but I guess pac wanted him to spell it out for him.

Pac great rapper but was a fucking idiot, you gonna keep taking gifts from these street guys,they buying you jewelry and shit and you seriously taking it? Really nigga and when your pimps came back and wanted a favor you tell them no, of course they coming for you moron.

Shit was all around sad, nigga got hit was ready to bow out and shit but when he got them mob pirus behind hilolm now he's ready to hit em up only to get his dumbass shot up again dealing with a life that's he's not about over in cali but this is y'all superthug tho smh
 
He was a pussy bout the whole situation.... he knew the niggas who shot pac tried playing naive about it then waited to throw sublims VR addressing it like a man. The long kiss was a great song but straight sucka shit. He waited til he died
 
SUPREME SEVEN STAR;8836356 said:
Biggie help set Pac up, but they didnt kill him! Pac knew Biggie set him up and started telling it with zero fucks given! Biggie started feeling the weight of that bitch Karma coming back his way so he started trying to take the high road in hopes of it blowing over! Pac dies and Biggie thinks everything is cool because Pac is no longer alive so the beef must be dead! Unfortunately for him he made one Big mistake, he took his ass back to California!

Say what you want but Biggie turned real soft after the Source Awards when Suge, Snoop and Death Row didn't back down with Biggie screaming Brooklyn! Biggie popped alot of shit and lived alot of shit! But that West Coast/Death Row beef had Biggie shook the fuck up!

I still don't buy that Biggie helped set Pac up.
 
SUPREME SEVEN STAR;8836356 said:
Biggie help set Pac up, but they didnt kill him! Pac knew Biggie set him up and started telling it with zero fucks given! Biggie started feeling the weight of that bitch Karma coming back his way so he started trying to take the high road in hopes of it blowing over! Pac dies and Biggie thinks everything is cool because Pac is no longer alive so the beef must be dead! Unfortunately for him he made one Big mistake, he took his ass back to California!

Say what you want but Biggie turned real soft after the Source Awards when Suge, Snoop and Death Row didn't back down with Biggie screaming Brooklyn! Biggie popped alot of shit and lived alot of shit! But that West Coast/Death Row beef had Biggie shook the fuck up!

Didn't dude who set pac up say that puff and big had nothing to do with it
 
qawshun;8836391 said:
SUPREME SEVEN STAR;8836356 said:
Biggie help set Pac up, but they didnt kill him! Pac knew Biggie set him up and started telling it with zero fucks given! Biggie started feeling the weight of that bitch Karma coming back his way so he started trying to take the high road in hopes of it blowing over! Pac dies and Biggie thinks everything is cool because Pac is no longer alive so the beef must be dead! Unfortunately for him he made one Big mistake, he took his ass back to California!

Say what you want but Biggie turned real soft after the Source Awards when Suge, Snoop and Death Row didn't back down with Biggie screaming Brooklyn! Biggie popped alot of shit and lived alot of shit! But that West Coast/Death Row beef had Biggie shook the fuck up!

Didn't dude who set pac up say that puff and big had nothing to do with it

Facts!

But that's just Tupac stans logic.

 
Built 4 cuban linx;8836288 said:
Lol 101 diss records but only one towards the niggas that actually had something to do with his situation. Niggas overlook the fact also that tupac spent all his time dissing someone who had nothing to do with his shit. Lame ass shit. Biggie already warned him but I guess pac wanted him to spell it out for him.

Pac great rapper but was a fucking idiot, you gonna keep taking gifts from these street guys,they buying you jewelry and shit and you seriously taking it? Really nigga and when your pimps came back and wanted a favor you tell them no, of course they coming for you moron.

Shit was all around sad, nigga got hit was ready to bow out and shit but when he got them mob pirus behind hilolm now he's ready to hit em up only to get his dumbass shot up again dealing with a life that's he's not about over in cali but this is y'all superthug tho smh

1. What does this have to do with hiphop? A nigga disses you on wax, you gotta spit back. That's hiphop 101. No excuse for that shit.

2. He already addressed the bolded


3. You're acting like he wasnt already doing street shit wayyyyy before the biggie/death row shit took place. Was he gang banging? Prolly not, but he was still shooting mfs, beating up directors, etc. The nigga didnt just wake up on death row and turned to a thug lol. Cut it out.
 
_Goldie_;8836402 said:
Built 4 cuban linx;8836288 said:
Lol 101 diss records but only one towards the niggas that actually had something to do with his situation. Niggas overlook the fact also that tupac spent all his time dissing someone who had nothing to do with his shit. Lame ass shit. Biggie already warned him but I guess pac wanted him to spell it out for him.

Pac great rapper but was a fucking idiot, you gonna keep taking gifts from these street guys,they buying you jewelry and shit and you seriously taking it? Really nigga and when your pimps came back and wanted a favor you tell them no, of course they coming for you moron.

Shit was all around sad, nigga got hit was ready to bow out and shit but when he got them mob pirus behind hilolm now he's ready to hit em up only to get his dumbass shot up again dealing with a life that's he's not about over in cali but this is y'all superthug tho smh

1. What does this have to do with hiphop? A nigga disses you on wax, you gotta spit back. That's hiphop 101. No excuse for that shit.

2. He already addressed the bolded


3. You're acting like he wasnt already doing street shit wayyyyy before the biggie/death row shit took place. Was he gang banging? Prolly not, but he was still shooting mfs, beating up directors, etc. The nigga didnt just wake up on death row and turned to a thug lol. Cut it out.


Oh wow I was always under the assumption that he not was a street guy that didn't know that you don't take gifts from street niggas that do dirt but now you cleared it up that he was in fact still a super thug that was kicking ass and shooting up the block on some nino brown shit but still took gifts and chains from niggas. That makes him even more of a dumbass than I thought thanks for clearing that up goldie, your response was dearly appreciated
 
Built 4 cuban linx;8836439 said:
_Goldie_;8836402 said:
Built 4 cuban linx;8836288 said:
Lol 101 diss records but only one towards the niggas that actually had something to do with his situation. Niggas overlook the fact also that tupac spent all his time dissing someone who had nothing to do with his shit. Lame ass shit. Biggie already warned him but I guess pac wanted him to spell it out for him.

Pac great rapper but was a fucking idiot, you gonna keep taking gifts from these street guys,they buying you jewelry and shit and you seriously taking it? Really nigga and when your pimps came back and wanted a favor you tell them no, of course they coming for you moron.

Shit was all around sad, nigga got hit was ready to bow out and shit but when he got them mob pirus behind hilolm now he's ready to hit em up only to get his dumbass shot up again dealing with a life that's he's not about over in cali but this is y'all superthug tho smh

1. What does this have to do with hiphop? A nigga disses you on wax, you gotta spit back. That's hiphop 101. No excuse for that shit.

2. He already addressed the bolded


3. You're acting like he wasnt already doing street shit wayyyyy before the biggie/death row shit took place. Was he gang banging? Prolly not, but he was still shooting mfs, beating up directors, etc. The nigga didnt just wake up on death row and turned to a thug lol. Cut it out.


Oh wow I was always under the assumption that he not was a street guy that didn't know that you don't take gifts from street niggas that do dirt but now you cleared it up that he was in fact still a super thug that was kicking ass and shooting up the block on some nino brown shit but still took gifts and chains from niggas. That makes him even more of a dumbass than I thought thanks for clearing that up goldie, your response was dearly appreciated


Alot of feelings in this post sir
 
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_Goldie_;8836487 said:
Built 4 cuban linx;8836439 said:
_Goldie_;8836402 said:
Built 4 cuban linx;8836288 said:
Lol 101 diss records but only one towards the niggas that actually had something to do with his situation. Niggas overlook the fact also that tupac spent all his time dissing someone who had nothing to do with his shit. Lame ass shit. Biggie already warned him but I guess pac wanted him to spell it out for him.

Pac great rapper but was a fucking idiot, you gonna keep taking gifts from these street guys,they buying you jewelry and shit and you seriously taking it? Really nigga and when your pimps came back and wanted a favor you tell them no, of course they coming for you moron.

Shit was all around sad, nigga got hit was ready to bow out and shit but when he got them mob pirus behind hilolm now he's ready to hit em up only to get his dumbass shot up again dealing with a life that's he's not about over in cali but this is y'all superthug tho smh

1. What does this have to do with hiphop? A nigga disses you on wax, you gotta spit back. That's hiphop 101. No excuse for that shit.

2. He already addressed the bolded


3. You're acting like he wasnt already doing street shit wayyyyy before the biggie/death row shit took place. Was he gang banging? Prolly not, but he was still shooting mfs, beating up directors, etc. The nigga didnt just wake up on death row and turned to a thug lol. Cut it out.


Oh wow I was always under the assumption that he not was a street guy that didn't know that you don't take gifts from street niggas that do dirt but now you cleared it up that he was in fact still a super thug that was kicking ass and shooting up the block on some nino brown shit but still took gifts and chains from niggas. That makes him even more of a dumbass than I thought thanks for clearing that up goldie, your response was dearly appreciated


Alot of feelings in this post sir


Nah, just the realist shit I've ever wrote nigga
 
The beef had nothing to do with Biggie. Big and Puff were affiliated with those cats but it was out of Big's and Puff's control what happened to Pac in NYC. Them dudes were giving Pac gifts, money and security while he was in town. It started because they wanted Pac to do a record with Lil Shawn but Pac wanted to charge them niggas for the feature. Them niggas felt like Pac shouldn't be charging them, when they've done tons of favors for Pac. So the robbery was an attempt to send a message to Pac, Pac didn't want to give up the jewels freely and he shot himself while attempting to reach for his weapon.

Pac just figured that Big had to have known and could've warned him prior to him showing up. Did Big know they were planning to rob Pac that night? Possible. But who knows.
 
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5th Letter;8836515 said:
The beef had nothing to do with Biggie. Big and Puff were affiliated with those cats but it was out of Big's and Puff's control what happened to Pac in NYC. Them dudes were giving Pac gifts, money and security while he was in town. It started because they wanted Pac to do a record with Lil Shawn but Pac wanted to charge them niggas for the feature. Them niggas felt like Pac shouldn't be charging them, when they've done tons of favors for Pac. So the robbery was an attempt to send a message to Pac, Pac didn't want to give up the jewels freely and he shot himself while attempting to reach for his weapon.

Pac just figured that Big had to have known and could've warned him prior to him showing up. Did Big know they were planning to rob Pac that night? Possible. But who knows.

You hold ya toast shaky...

Ass nigga
 
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