mryounggun
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This thread is evidence as to why we can't really have an objective conversation about rap on here. Lol.
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mryounggun;7122902 said:GetoBoy;7122851 said:The ppl who put wayne in the top 10 I'm interested to know what y'all top 10 look like if it got wayne in it....
I'm curious to what criteria you are using too determine a top to RAPPERS of you DON'T have Wayne in the top 10.
dbrazil412;7122201 said:Lil wayne will go down as a top 10 artist of all time...
GetoBoy;7122998 said:mryounggun;7122902 said:GetoBoy;7122851 said:The ppl who put wayne in the top 10 I'm interested to know what y'all top 10 look like if it got wayne in it....
I'm curious to what criteria you are using too determine a top to RAPPERS of you DON'T have Wayne in the top 10.
Is wayne a top 10 lyricist of all time???No
Does wayne have a top 10 flow of all time??? No
Does wayne have a top 10 body of work as a rapper??? No
When it comes to crafting great hip hop songs would you rank wayne in the top 10??? No
Would you like me to continue... Wayne probably wouldn't even be a top 10 rapper if you just included the 80's let alone adding the 90's and 2000's
mryounggun;7123027 said:GetoBoy;7122998 said:mryounggun;7122902 said:GetoBoy;7122851 said:The ppl who put wayne in the top 10 I'm interested to know what y'all top 10 look like if it got wayne in it....
I'm curious to what criteria you are using too determine a top to RAPPERS of you DON'T have Wayne in the top 10.
Is wayne a top 10 lyricist of all time???No
Does wayne have a top 10 flow of all time??? No
Does wayne have a top 10 body of work as a rapper??? No
When it comes to crafting great hip hop songs would you rank wayne in the top 10??? No
Would you like me to continue... Wayne probably wouldn't even be a top 10 rapper if you just included the 80's let alone adding the 90's and 2000's
Again, let's take into consideration an ENTIRE body of work. There is more to building a rap career than the best lyricist, etc. That's like naming off a couple specific skills that Kobe isn't top 10 in and then concluding that he isn't a top 10 player overall because of that.
Is Kobe a top 10 three-point shooter? NO
Is Kobe a top 10 rebounder? NO
Is Kobe top 10 in terms of most rings? NO
Does Kobe have top 10 handles? NO
That doesn't mean he isn't a top 10 player overall when you take into consideration everything that goes into making up an NBA career. Same with Wayne. I'm having trouble seeing how he isn't a top 10 rapper. Also, I'd argue that Wayne's flow circa about 2004 - 2007 was top 10. But that's another conversation.
GetoBoy;7123054 said:mryounggun;7123027 said:GetoBoy;7122998 said:mryounggun;7122902 said:GetoBoy;7122851 said:The ppl who put wayne in the top 10 I'm interested to know what y'all top 10 look like if it got wayne in it....
I'm curious to what criteria you are using too determine a top to RAPPERS of you DON'T have Wayne in the top 10.
Is wayne a top 10 lyricist of all time???No
Does wayne have a top 10 flow of all time??? No
Does wayne have a top 10 body of work as a rapper??? No
When it comes to crafting great hip hop songs would you rank wayne in the top 10??? No
Would you like me to continue... Wayne probably wouldn't even be a top 10 rapper if you just included the 80's let alone adding the 90's and 2000's
Again, let's take into consideration an ENTIRE body of work. There is more to building a rap career than the best lyricist, etc. That's like naming off a couple specific skills that Kobe isn't top 10 in and then concluding that he isn't a top 10 player overall because of that.
Is Kobe a top 10 three-point shooter? NO
Is Kobe a top 10 rebounder? NO
Is Kobe top 10 in terms of most rings? NO
Does Kobe have top 10 handles? NO
That doesn't mean he isn't a top 10 player overall when you take into consideration everything that goes into making up an NBA career. Same with Wayne. I'm having trouble seeing how he isn't a top 10 rapper. Also, I'd argue that Wayne's flow circa about 2004 - 2007 was top 10. But that's another conversation.
Bad analogy bruh cuz there's 100 things that go into being a great bball player including teammates which makes it even more complicated whereas hip hop its all about you and your skills....to make it a lil simpler take some of the great labels/crews ever and throw wayne on there and see how many times you don't place him first and you'll get closer to your number....
Some would tell you he wasn't even the best on the hot boys....
Put him on bad boy with big,lox, where does he rank???
Then put him on death row with pac, snoop, DPG, where does he rank???
Then put him on the ROC with jay, beans, ye where does he rank???
Then put him on the wu with method man, rae, ghostface where does he rank??? Etc...
If you do that enough times you'll see it's crazy to find him in the top 10 unless you're just a BIG wayne fan or are really young
MSG Da Mecca;7123046 said:Lil Wayne as an artist did not do what Kobe did on the court, imo.
mryounggun;7123065 said:GetoBoy;7123054 said:mryounggun;7123027 said:GetoBoy;7122998 said:mryounggun;7122902 said:GetoBoy;7122851 said:The ppl who put wayne in the top 10 I'm interested to know what y'all top 10 look like if it got wayne in it....
I'm curious to what criteria you are using too determine a top to RAPPERS of you DON'T have Wayne in the top 10.
Is wayne a top 10 lyricist of all time???No
Does wayne have a top 10 flow of all time??? No
Does wayne have a top 10 body of work as a rapper??? No
When it comes to crafting great hip hop songs would you rank wayne in the top 10??? No
Would you like me to continue... Wayne probably wouldn't even be a top 10 rapper if you just included the 80's let alone adding the 90's and 2000's
Again, let's take into consideration an ENTIRE body of work. There is more to building a rap career than the best lyricist, etc. That's like naming off a couple specific skills that Kobe isn't top 10 in and then concluding that he isn't a top 10 player overall because of that.
Is Kobe a top 10 three-point shooter? NO
Is Kobe a top 10 rebounder? NO
Is Kobe top 10 in terms of most rings? NO
Does Kobe have top 10 handles? NO
That doesn't mean he isn't a top 10 player overall when you take into consideration everything that goes into making up an NBA career. Same with Wayne. I'm having trouble seeing how he isn't a top 10 rapper. Also, I'd argue that Wayne's flow circa about 2004 - 2007 was top 10. But that's another conversation.
Bad analogy bruh cuz there's 100 things that go into being a great bball player including teammates which makes it even more complicated whereas hip hop its all about you and your skills....to make it a lil simpler take some of the great labels/crews ever and throw wayne on there and see how many times you don't place him first and you'll get closer to your number....
Some would tell you he wasn't even the best on the hot boys....
Put him on bad boy with big,lox, where does he rank???
Then put him on death row with pac, snoop, DPG, where does he rank???
Then put him on the ROC with jay, beans, ye where does he rank???
Then put him on the wu with method man, rae, ghostface where does he rank??? Etc...
If you do that enough times you'll see it's crazy to find him in the top 10 unless you're just a BIG wayne fan or are really young
But...he wasn't on bad boy, in the lox, etc. He wasn't on death row, dogg pound, etc. We gonna talk about some hypothetical alternate universe or what actually IS?
Also, I think you're getting 'rapper' confused with 'MC' and 'lyricist'. I liken it to the best 'player' vs. the best 'scorer'. If we're talking about an entire rap career, Wayne's in or near the top 10, IMO. But yeah, I ain't gonna keep defending a niggas music that I don't even like.
freethewave;7123079 said:mryounggun;7123065 said:GetoBoy;7123054 said:mryounggun;7123027 said:GetoBoy;7122998 said:mryounggun;7122902 said:GetoBoy;7122851 said:The ppl who put wayne in the top 10 I'm interested to know what y'all top 10 look like if it got wayne in it....
I'm curious to what criteria you are using too determine a top to RAPPERS of you DON'T have Wayne in the top 10.
Is wayne a top 10 lyricist of all time???No
Does wayne have a top 10 flow of all time??? No
Does wayne have a top 10 body of work as a rapper??? No
When it comes to crafting great hip hop songs would you rank wayne in the top 10??? No
Would you like me to continue... Wayne probably wouldn't even be a top 10 rapper if you just included the 80's let alone adding the 90's and 2000's
Again, let's take into consideration an ENTIRE body of work. There is more to building a rap career than the best lyricist, etc. That's like naming off a couple specific skills that Kobe isn't top 10 in and then concluding that he isn't a top 10 player overall because of that.
Is Kobe a top 10 three-point shooter? NO
Is Kobe a top 10 rebounder? NO
Is Kobe top 10 in terms of most rings? NO
Does Kobe have top 10 handles? NO
That doesn't mean he isn't a top 10 player overall when you take into consideration everything that goes into making up an NBA career. Same with Wayne. I'm having trouble seeing how he isn't a top 10 rapper. Also, I'd argue that Wayne's flow circa about 2004 - 2007 was top 10. But that's another conversation.
Bad analogy bruh cuz there's 100 things that go into being a great bball player including teammates which makes it even more complicated whereas hip hop its all about you and your skills....to make it a lil simpler take some of the great labels/crews ever and throw wayne on there and see how many times you don't place him first and you'll get closer to your number....
Some would tell you he wasn't even the best on the hot boys....
Put him on bad boy with big,lox, where does he rank???
Then put him on death row with pac, snoop, DPG, where does he rank???
Then put him on the ROC with jay, beans, ye where does he rank???
Then put him on the wu with method man, rae, ghostface where does he rank??? Etc...
If you do that enough times you'll see it's crazy to find him in the top 10 unless you're just a BIG wayne fan or are really young
But...he wasn't on bad boy, in the lox, etc. He wasn't on death row, dogg pound, etc. We gonna talk about some hypothetical alternate universe or what actually IS?
Also, I think you're getting 'rapper' confused with 'MC' and 'lyricist'. I liken it to the best 'player' vs. the best 'scorer'. If we're talking about an entire rap career, Wayne's in or near the top 10, IMO. But yeah, I ain't gonna keep defending a niggas music that I don't even like.
Uhg this again.all rappers are mcs and lyricists.some are just better/more skilled than others
MSG Da Mecca;7123084 said:Kobe as an artist on the court shits on Wayne as an artist on the mic.
mryounggun;7123104 said:freethewave;7123079 said:mryounggun;7123065 said:GetoBoy;7123054 said:mryounggun;7123027 said:GetoBoy;7122998 said:mryounggun;7122902 said:GetoBoy;7122851 said:The ppl who put wayne in the top 10 I'm interested to know what y'all top 10 look like if it got wayne in it....
I'm curious to what criteria you are using too determine a top to RAPPERS of you DON'T have Wayne in the top 10.
Is wayne a top 10 lyricist of all time???No
Does wayne have a top 10 flow of all time??? No
Does wayne have a top 10 body of work as a rapper??? No
When it comes to crafting great hip hop songs would you rank wayne in the top 10??? No
Would you like me to continue... Wayne probably wouldn't even be a top 10 rapper if you just included the 80's let alone adding the 90's and 2000's
Again, let's take into consideration an ENTIRE body of work. There is more to building a rap career than the best lyricist, etc. That's like naming off a couple specific skills that Kobe isn't top 10 in and then concluding that he isn't a top 10 player overall because of that.
Is Kobe a top 10 three-point shooter? NO
Is Kobe a top 10 rebounder? NO
Is Kobe top 10 in terms of most rings? NO
Does Kobe have top 10 handles? NO
That doesn't mean he isn't a top 10 player overall when you take into consideration everything that goes into making up an NBA career. Same with Wayne. I'm having trouble seeing how he isn't a top 10 rapper. Also, I'd argue that Wayne's flow circa about 2004 - 2007 was top 10. But that's another conversation.
Bad analogy bruh cuz there's 100 things that go into being a great bball player including teammates which makes it even more complicated whereas hip hop its all about you and your skills....to make it a lil simpler take some of the great labels/crews ever and throw wayne on there and see how many times you don't place him first and you'll get closer to your number....
Some would tell you he wasn't even the best on the hot boys....
Put him on bad boy with big,lox, where does he rank???
Then put him on death row with pac, snoop, DPG, where does he rank???
Then put him on the ROC with jay, beans, ye where does he rank???
Then put him on the wu with method man, rae, ghostface where does he rank??? Etc...
If you do that enough times you'll see it's crazy to find him in the top 10 unless you're just a BIG wayne fan or are really young
But...he wasn't on bad boy, in the lox, etc. He wasn't on death row, dogg pound, etc. We gonna talk about some hypothetical alternate universe or what actually IS?
Also, I think you're getting 'rapper' confused with 'MC' and 'lyricist'. I liken it to the best 'player' vs. the best 'scorer'. If we're talking about an entire rap career, Wayne's in or near the top 10, IMO. But yeah, I ain't gonna keep defending a niggas music that I don't even like.
Uhg this again.all rappers are mcs and lyricists.some are just better/more skilled than others
Agreed, But I think you'd agree that if you were making a list of the top 10 RAPPERS vs. the top 10 LYRICISTS...they'd be different lists.