Honestly as a rapper where do you rank Lil Wayne all time ?

[mryounggun]

This thread is evidence as to why we can't really have an objective conversation about rap on here. Lol.

 

[R.D.]

Lmaooo @ big l, bun b, meth, red, and krs one all being better than Wayne

Might can live with of them, not all 5

 

[R.D.]

*one

 

[mryounggun]

Like I said, I don't like Wayne's music at all these days, but he's not one of the top 10 rappers? Taking into consideration his album sales, success as a part of a group and as a solo artist, his impact on the game, his run of successful multiplatinum albums, his classic mix tapes, his longevity, etc, etc, etc.

I'd put his rap career up against any other rapper and it'd be comparable.

Fuck him and almost all his music past like 2007 or 2008. But to say he's not in or near the top 10 is ridiculous to me.

 

[GetoBoy]

The ppl who put wayne in the top 10 I'm interested to know what y'all top 10 look like if it got wayne in it....

I'm curious to what criteria you are using too determine a top to RAPPERS of you DON'T have Wayne in the top 10.

Is wayne a top 10 lyricist of all time???No

Does wayne have a top 10 flow of all time??? No

Does wayne have a top 10 body of work as a rapper??? No

When it comes to crafting great hip hop songs would you rank wayne in the top 10??? No

Would you like me to continue... Wayne probably wouldn't even be a top 10 rapper if you just included the 80's let alone adding the 90's and 2000's

 

[5 Grand]

Lil wayne will go down as a top 10 artist of all time...

^^^This is where I have a problem. You'd have to be really young and not listened to much music to make a statement like that. Saying Lil Wayne is a top 10 or 20 rapper is simply a matter of opinion. But to say that "Lil Wayne will go down as a top 10 artist of all time" means you're putting him in the same level as Bob Marley, Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson, Prince, etc. I was just listening to a Curtis Mayfield Greatest Hits LP yesterday. Lil Wayne's not even on Curtis Mayfield's level of songwriting.

As far as rappers go. Lil Wayne's not really on my radar. I'm 40 and from the east coast. My little cousins listen to him but I had stopped listening to rap like that when his reign started. But from what I've heard he's not seeing Nas, Jay, Ice Cube, Kool G Rap, Biggie, etc.

I do acknowledge that Lil Wayne has a lot of stuff I haven't heard so its possible that he's top 10-20 but if he was on the level of Nas or Tupac (top 5) I would have heard those songs.

But no way in hell is Lil Wayne a top 10 artist of all time.

 

[R2_163]

nah that artist comment is retarded.

 

[mryounggun]

The ppl who put wayne in the top 10 I'm interested to know what y'all top 10 look like if it got wayne in it....

I'm curious to what criteria you are using too determine a top to RAPPERS of you DON'T have Wayne in the top 10.

Is wayne a top 10 lyricist of all time???No

Does wayne have a top 10 flow of all time??? No

Does wayne have a top 10 body of work as a rapper??? No

When it comes to crafting great hip hop songs would you rank wayne in the top 10??? No

Would you like me to continue... Wayne probably wouldn't even be a top 10 rapper if you just included the 80's let alone adding the 90's and 2000's

Again, let's take into consideration an ENTIRE body of work. There is more to building a rap career than the best lyricist, etc. That's like naming off a couple specific skills that Kobe isn't top 10 in and then concluding that he isn't a top 10 player overall because of that.

Is Kobe a top 10 three-point shooter? NO

Is Kobe a top 10 rebounder? NO

Is Kobe top 10 in terms of most rings? NO

Does Kobe have top 10 handles? NO

That doesn't mean he isn't a top 10 player overall when you take into consideration everything that goes into making up an NBA career. Same with Wayne. I'm having trouble seeing how he isn't a top 10 rapper. Also, I'd argue that Wayne's flow circa about 2004 - 2007 was top 10. But that's another conversation.

 

[KneeGro_DuperMan]

Lil Wayne as an artist did not do what Kobe did on the court, imo.

 

[GetoBoy]

The ppl who put wayne in the top 10 I'm interested to know what y'all top 10 look like if it got wayne in it....

I'm curious to what criteria you are using too determine a top to RAPPERS of you DON'T have Wayne in the top 10.

Is wayne a top 10 lyricist of all time???No

Does wayne have a top 10 flow of all time??? No

Does wayne have a top 10 body of work as a rapper??? No

When it comes to crafting great hip hop songs would you rank wayne in the top 10??? No

Would you like me to continue... Wayne probably wouldn't even be a top 10 rapper if you just included the 80's let alone adding the 90's and 2000's

Again, let's take into consideration an ENTIRE body of work. There is more to building a rap career than the best lyricist, etc. That's like naming off a couple specific skills that Kobe isn't top 10 in and then concluding that he isn't a top 10 player overall because of that.

Is Kobe a top 10 three-point shooter? NO

Is Kobe a top 10 rebounder? NO

Is Kobe top 10 in terms of most rings? NO

Does Kobe have top 10 handles? NO

That doesn't mean he isn't a top 10 player overall when you take into consideration everything that goes into making up an NBA career. Same with Wayne. I'm having trouble seeing how he isn't a top 10 rapper. Also, I'd argue that Wayne's flow circa about 2004 - 2007 was top 10. But that's another conversation.

Bad analogy bruh cuz there's 100 things that go into being a great bball player including teammates which makes it even more complicated whereas hip hop its all about you and your skills....to make it a lil simpler take some of the great labels/crews ever and throw wayne on there and see how many times you don't place him first and you'll get closer to your number....

Some would tell you he wasn't even the best on the hot boys....

Put him on bad boy with big,lox, where does he rank???

Then put him on death row with pac, snoop, DPG, where does he rank???

Then put him on the ROC with jay, beans, ye where does he rank???

Then put him on the wu with method man, rae, ghostface where does he rank??? Etc...

If you do that enough times you'll see it's crazy to find him in the top 10 unless you're just a BIG wayne fan or are really young

 

[mryounggun]

The ppl who put wayne in the top 10 I'm interested to know what y'all top 10 look like if it got wayne in it....

I'm curious to what criteria you are using too determine a top to RAPPERS of you DON'T have Wayne in the top 10.

Is wayne a top 10 lyricist of all time???No

Does wayne have a top 10 flow of all time??? No

Does wayne have a top 10 body of work as a rapper??? No

When it comes to crafting great hip hop songs would you rank wayne in the top 10??? No

Would you like me to continue... Wayne probably wouldn't even be a top 10 rapper if you just included the 80's let alone adding the 90's and 2000's

Again, let's take into consideration an ENTIRE body of work. There is more to building a rap career than the best lyricist, etc. That's like naming off a couple specific skills that Kobe isn't top 10 in and then concluding that he isn't a top 10 player overall because of that.

Is Kobe a top 10 three-point shooter? NO

Is Kobe a top 10 rebounder? NO

Is Kobe top 10 in terms of most rings? NO

Does Kobe have top 10 handles? NO

That doesn't mean he isn't a top 10 player overall when you take into consideration everything that goes into making up an NBA career. Same with Wayne. I'm having trouble seeing how he isn't a top 10 rapper. Also, I'd argue that Wayne's flow circa about 2004 - 2007 was top 10. But that's another conversation.

Bad analogy bruh cuz there's 100 things that go into being a great bball player including teammates which makes it even more complicated whereas hip hop its all about you and your skills....to make it a lil simpler take some of the great labels/crews ever and throw wayne on there and see how many times you don't place him first and you'll get closer to your number....

Some would tell you he wasn't even the best on the hot boys....

Put him on bad boy with big,lox, where does he rank???

Then put him on death row with pac, snoop, DPG, where does he rank???

Then put him on the ROC with jay, beans, ye where does he rank???

Then put him on the wu with method man, rae, ghostface where does he rank??? Etc...

If you do that enough times you'll see it's crazy to find him in the top 10 unless you're just a BIG wayne fan or are really young

But...he wasn't on bad boy, in the lox, etc. He wasn't on death row, dogg pound, etc. We gonna talk about some hypothetical alternate universe or what actually IS?

Also, I think you're getting 'rapper' confused with 'MC' and 'lyricist'. I liken it to the best 'player' vs. the best 'scorer'. If we're talking about an entire rap career, Wayne's in or near the top 10, IMO. But yeah, I ain't gonna keep defending a niggas music that I don't even like.

 

[mryounggun]

Lil Wayne as an artist did not do what Kobe did on the court, imo.

This is interesting. What has Kobe done that Wayne hasn't done the equivalent of? I mean, obviously the shit will be different since it's hoop vs. rap. But enlighten me, son.

 

[freethewave]

The ppl who put wayne in the top 10 I'm interested to know what y'all top 10 look like if it got wayne in it....

I'm curious to what criteria you are using too determine a top to RAPPERS of you DON'T have Wayne in the top 10.

Is wayne a top 10 lyricist of all time???No

Does wayne have a top 10 flow of all time??? No

Does wayne have a top 10 body of work as a rapper??? No

When it comes to crafting great hip hop songs would you rank wayne in the top 10??? No

Would you like me to continue... Wayne probably wouldn't even be a top 10 rapper if you just included the 80's let alone adding the 90's and 2000's

Again, let's take into consideration an ENTIRE body of work. There is more to building a rap career than the best lyricist, etc. That's like naming off a couple specific skills that Kobe isn't top 10 in and then concluding that he isn't a top 10 player overall because of that.

Is Kobe a top 10 three-point shooter? NO

Is Kobe a top 10 rebounder? NO

Is Kobe top 10 in terms of most rings? NO

Does Kobe have top 10 handles? NO

That doesn't mean he isn't a top 10 player overall when you take into consideration everything that goes into making up an NBA career. Same with Wayne. I'm having trouble seeing how he isn't a top 10 rapper. Also, I'd argue that Wayne's flow circa about 2004 - 2007 was top 10. But that's another conversation.

Bad analogy bruh cuz there's 100 things that go into being a great bball player including teammates which makes it even more complicated whereas hip hop its all about you and your skills....to make it a lil simpler take some of the great labels/crews ever and throw wayne on there and see how many times you don't place him first and you'll get closer to your number....

Some would tell you he wasn't even the best on the hot boys....

Put him on bad boy with big,lox, where does he rank???

Then put him on death row with pac, snoop, DPG, where does he rank???

Then put him on the ROC with jay, beans, ye where does he rank???

Then put him on the wu with method man, rae, ghostface where does he rank??? Etc...

If you do that enough times you'll see it's crazy to find him in the top 10 unless you're just a BIG wayne fan or are really young

But...he wasn't on bad boy, in the lox, etc. He wasn't on death row, dogg pound, etc. We gonna talk about some hypothetical alternate universe or what actually IS?

Also, I think you're getting 'rapper' confused with 'MC' and 'lyricist'. I liken it to the best 'player' vs. the best 'scorer'. If we're talking about an entire rap career, Wayne's in or near the top 10, IMO. But yeah, I ain't gonna keep defending a niggas music that I don't even like.

Uhg this again.all rappers are mcs and lyricists.some are just better/more skilled than others

 

[KneeGro_DuperMan]

Kobe as an artist on the court shits on Wayne as an artist on the mic.

 

[GetoBoy]

It's not about where he was at its about putting his talents up against others bit by bit instead of just throwing everybody in a pot and seeing when you pull wayne out.... And if I'm putting out why I feel he isn't in the top 10 and you don't agree let me know what makes him top10 cuz all I keep hearing is "cuz he had a crazy run from 2000 this to 2000 that" is that all it takes to be top 10 all time is to just have a coo lil run in rap???

 

[mryounggun]

The ppl who put wayne in the top 10 I'm interested to know what y'all top 10 look like if it got wayne in it....

I'm curious to what criteria you are using too determine a top to RAPPERS of you DON'T have Wayne in the top 10.

Is wayne a top 10 lyricist of all time???No

Does wayne have a top 10 flow of all time??? No

Does wayne have a top 10 body of work as a rapper??? No

When it comes to crafting great hip hop songs would you rank wayne in the top 10??? No

Would you like me to continue... Wayne probably wouldn't even be a top 10 rapper if you just included the 80's let alone adding the 90's and 2000's

Again, let's take into consideration an ENTIRE body of work. There is more to building a rap career than the best lyricist, etc. That's like naming off a couple specific skills that Kobe isn't top 10 in and then concluding that he isn't a top 10 player overall because of that.

Is Kobe a top 10 three-point shooter? NO

Is Kobe a top 10 rebounder? NO

Is Kobe top 10 in terms of most rings? NO

Does Kobe have top 10 handles? NO

That doesn't mean he isn't a top 10 player overall when you take into consideration everything that goes into making up an NBA career. Same with Wayne. I'm having trouble seeing how he isn't a top 10 rapper. Also, I'd argue that Wayne's flow circa about 2004 - 2007 was top 10. But that's another conversation.

Bad analogy bruh cuz there's 100 things that go into being a great bball player including teammates which makes it even more complicated whereas hip hop its all about you and your skills....to make it a lil simpler take some of the great labels/crews ever and throw wayne on there and see how many times you don't place him first and you'll get closer to your number....

Some would tell you he wasn't even the best on the hot boys....

Put him on bad boy with big,lox, where does he rank???

Then put him on death row with pac, snoop, DPG, where does he rank???

Then put him on the ROC with jay, beans, ye where does he rank???

Then put him on the wu with method man, rae, ghostface where does he rank??? Etc...

If you do that enough times you'll see it's crazy to find him in the top 10 unless you're just a BIG wayne fan or are really young

But...he wasn't on bad boy, in the lox, etc. He wasn't on death row, dogg pound, etc. We gonna talk about some hypothetical alternate universe or what actually IS?

Also, I think you're getting 'rapper' confused with 'MC' and 'lyricist'. I liken it to the best 'player' vs. the best 'scorer'. If we're talking about an entire rap career, Wayne's in or near the top 10, IMO. But yeah, I ain't gonna keep defending a niggas music that I don't even like.

Uhg this again.all rappers are mcs and lyricists.some are just better/more skilled than others

Agreed, But I think you'd agree that if you were making a list of the top 10 RAPPERS vs. the top 10 LYRICISTS...they'd be different lists.

 

[mryounggun]

Kobe as an artist on the court shits on Wayne as an artist on the mic.

You just said the same thing using different words. What has Kobe done on the court that shits on what Wayne has done in rap?

 

[nujerz84]

Sports comparison is retarded..

 

[nujerz84]

The ppl who put wayne in the top 10 I'm interested to know what y'all top 10 look like if it got wayne in it....

I'm curious to what criteria you are using too determine a top to RAPPERS of you DON'T have Wayne in the top 10.

Is wayne a top 10 lyricist of all time???No

Does wayne have a top 10 flow of all time??? No

Does wayne have a top 10 body of work as a rapper??? No

When it comes to crafting great hip hop songs would you rank wayne in the top 10??? No

Would you like me to continue... Wayne probably wouldn't even be a top 10 rapper if you just included the 80's let alone adding the 90's and 2000's

Again, let's take into consideration an ENTIRE body of work. There is more to building a rap career than the best lyricist, etc. That's like naming off a couple specific skills that Kobe isn't top 10 in and then concluding that he isn't a top 10 player overall because of that.

Is Kobe a top 10 three-point shooter? NO

Is Kobe a top 10 rebounder? NO

Is Kobe top 10 in terms of most rings? NO

Does Kobe have top 10 handles? NO

That doesn't mean he isn't a top 10 player overall when you take into consideration everything that goes into making up an NBA career. Same with Wayne. I'm having trouble seeing how he isn't a top 10 rapper. Also, I'd argue that Wayne's flow circa about 2004 - 2007 was top 10. But that's another conversation.

Bad analogy bruh cuz there's 100 things that go into being a great bball player including teammates which makes it even more complicated whereas hip hop its all about you and your skills....to make it a lil simpler take some of the great labels/crews ever and throw wayne on there and see how many times you don't place him first and you'll get closer to your number....

Some would tell you he wasn't even the best on the hot boys....

Put him on bad boy with big,lox, where does he rank???

Then put him on death row with pac, snoop, DPG, where does he rank???

Then put him on the ROC with jay, beans, ye where does he rank???

Then put him on the wu with method man, rae, ghostface where does he rank??? Etc...

If you do that enough times you'll see it's crazy to find him in the top 10 unless you're just a BIG wayne fan or are really young

But...he wasn't on bad boy, in the lox, etc. He wasn't on death row, dogg pound, etc. We gonna talk about some hypothetical alternate universe or what actually IS?

Also, I think you're getting 'rapper' confused with 'MC' and 'lyricist'. I liken it to the best 'player' vs. the best 'scorer'. If we're talking about an entire rap career, Wayne's in or near the top 10, IMO. But yeah, I ain't gonna keep defending a niggas music that I don't even like.

Uhg this again.all rappers are mcs and lyricists.some are just better/more skilled than others

Agreed, But I think you'd agree that if you were making a list of the top 10 RAPPERS vs. the top 10 LYRICISTS...they'd be different lists.

Same for artist?

 

[freethewave]

Yeah i know what u sayin that be like list of rapper overall and list of specific skill.they all lyricists.you can put a rapper higher over entertainment value than pure lyrics tho.dont tell the hip hop nerds