Hollywood Sex Abuse Scandal Thread - Harvey , Kevin, Andy etc

[fortyacres]

Thought ya’ll said this was just a white jewish problem.

Who said that?

Niggas just be making shit up.

When have niggas not been accused of rape since slavery?

you one of those people who thinks all rape allegations against black men are all some vast conspiracy that has to be tied to slavery, lol aight nigga.

No nigga....

Since slavery ended....

When have we NOT been accused of rape.

i have never been accused of rape , sorry.

 

[blackrain]

I have no doubt that some of these dudes did some out of line shit, but like someone said, this is basically becoming a witch hunt. At this point, dudes are being fired over allegations and nothing more. That's crazy. Any chick that has beef with a dude can accuse him of sexually harassing her, which could basically be anything and that's enough to put him in hot water.

It don't seem to be that simple in majority of these cases. Look at Matt Lauer. His firing seems quick til they came out and said they had been investigating him for months already. Alot of these networks seem to now be just doing private investigations into these claims and then going public with the info all at once. That's part of why it seems so sudden. Now the fact that all these investigations seem to be concluding at the same time is suspect and shows that they've known about these shits for a while, knew a storm was brewing, and were trying to preemptively cover their ass.

I don't know. I mean I get the feeling that everyone men and women, have known about this shit, but just accepted it. Now a few people have come out, and everyone is trying to retroactively hold people responsible for things done in the past. For egregious shit, I get that, but if there was a general culture was some things were just seen as accepted, I think it's a little fucked up to go back and hold everyone accountable. I'm fine with saying certain behavior is wrong and should cease. I just don't think its right for a chick to go along with some shit for ten years like it's cool, and then suddenly come out as a victim without ever actually calling the dude out on the wrongdoing.

Like I read about this shit with Selma Hayek and Harvey Weinstein. Basically, she wanted to do a movie and he agreed to fund it. The whole time they were making the movie, he was propositioning her. He's a piece of shit for that. However, if she never called him on it and just dealt with it, why would she have thought that he would stop. Finally, he gave her an ultimatium that either she add a naked lesbo sex scene of herself and someone else in the movie, or he'd pull funding. Again, he's a piece of shit for that, but she wasn't forced to have that scene as she claims. She chose to have it. She could have walked, but she didn't. I understand she had reasons that made it hard to do so, but doing that is taking a stand and would have been worthy of praise. I'm just having a hard time applauding these chicks for coming out of the woodwork years later to pile on after its become a movement. That said if even a tenth of the shit that is being claimed is true these dudes are wildin to an unbelievable extent.

That's just it though...this "culture" made it so many couldn't speak out without losing their careers. I don't look at it as a matter of the shit was accepted more like people on the shitty end of these comments and propositions had no way to actually have anything done even if they did come out and say something. Some of us have the common sense to differentiate between harmless flirting vs making somebody clearly uncomfortable and the shit said in these allegations are way past that line. Thats why I say dudes sound stupid saying shit like "well you can't even give a compliment anymore" like they don't know the difference between "hey that's a nice dress" vs "damn look at your titties sitting right today".

 

[blackrain]

"He tied my shoelaces without my consent."

"He sneezed around me without my consent."

"He walked past the ladies room without my consent."

Now you know it ain't that basic. You got dudes like Warren Sapp admitting to giving dildos as gifts to female coworkers. Dudes with super villlain locks on the doors and pulling their dicks out.

what if he and her fucked or if she was down with ot then changed later... that blurs the lines. he a perv tho. reak talk they gotta start disclosing everything to the public... vs only the accusations

If she consented in the moment unless it was under duress then she just gotta live with it. Problem is most of these situations are someone under duress

 

[blackrain]

Yea time after time you hear of cases of women just taking it so they could advance there careers.. its a terrible position to be put in however.. they made choices ala Salma she envisioned her moment and gritted her teeth and put up with with because she felt powerless to do anything about it and had career ambitions.. Puts me in a fucked up space.. To me everyone should have a line.. and i think that is 15 miles past a line..

Yeah, I don't want it misconstrued, I don't blame Salma for what that CaC did. I just think that everyone should acknowledge that we all make choices. If everyday, that dude went at her inappropriately and she just grinned and bared it because he was financing her dream, that was a choice. If she did a scene in a movie that she didn't want to do because her movie depended on it, that too was a choice. It was a fucked up choice, but it was a choice. I'd still consider her a victim, but she wasn't forced to do anything.

fuck that i blame her for not saying shit... coulda prevented it from happpening to someone else. also if a chick willingly fucks to advance her career she has no ground to stand on.... they wanna double dip... cash in move up then years later cash out and cry sexual abuse.... naw u choose to do it

This nigga Weinstein had a team literally going around threatening reporters who were writing stories to expose him. Look at the dude from that 70s show. The Church of Scientology been trying to actively silence his accusers for years now. It ain't always as simple as just saying something especially when the person you're accusing has long money and power that can skew your accusations

 

[TheGOAT]

Yall think Weinstein really caught some bodies over the years?

 

[aneed123]

"He tied my shoelaces without my consent."

"He sneezed around me without my consent."

"He walked past the ladies room without my consent."

Now you know it ain't that basic. You got dudes like Warren Sapp admitting to giving dildos as gifts to female coworkers. Dudes with super villlain locks on the doors and pulling their dicks out.

what if he and her fucked or if she was down with ot then changed later... that blurs the lines. he a perv tho. reak talk they gotta start disclosing everything to the public... vs only the accusations

If she consented in the moment unless it was under duress then she just gotta live with it. Problem is most of these situations are someone under duress

there are a bunch acussing these guys that willingly did it tho

 

[aneed123]

Yea time after time you hear of cases of women just taking it so they could advance there careers.. its a terrible position to be put in however.. they made choices ala Salma she envisioned her moment and gritted her teeth and put up with with because she felt powerless to do anything about it and had career ambitions.. Puts me in a fucked up space.. To me everyone should have a line.. and i think that is 15 miles past a line..

Yeah, I don't want it misconstrued, I don't blame Salma for what that CaC did. I just think that everyone should acknowledge that we all make choices. If everyday, that dude went at her inappropriately and she just grinned and bared it because he was financing her dream, that was a choice. If she did a scene in a movie that she didn't want to do because her movie depended on it, that too was a choice. It was a fucked up choice, but it was a choice. I'd still consider her a victim, but she wasn't forced to do anything.

fuck that i blame her for not saying shit... coulda prevented it from happpening to someone else. also if a chick willingly fucks to advance her career she has no ground to stand on.... they wanna double dip... cash in move up then years later cash out and cry sexual abuse.... naw u choose to do it

This nigga Weinstein had a team literally going around threatening reporters who were writing stories to expose him. Look at the dude from that 70s show. The Church of Scientology been trying to actively silence his accusers for years now. It ain't always as simple as just saying something especially when the person you're accusing has long money and power that can skew your accusations

dat jew did some of it... but best believe for every 1 he did it was 100 who willingly gave it up casting call styke for advancement word to Jennifer Lawrence ....

 

[THIRDSUPREME]

Thought ya’ll said this was just a white jewish problem.

Who said that?

Niggas just be making shit up.

When have niggas not been accused of rape since slavery?

you one of those people who thinks all rape allegations against black men are all some vast conspiracy that has to be tied to slavery, lol aight nigga.

No nigga....

Since slavery ended....

When have we NOT been accused of rape.

i have never been accused of rape , sorry.

Smh. You win bro. You win.

 

[deadeye]

this the Woman on the nfl network, smh whats wrong with these niggaz

Sexual harassment does not mean sexual advances, it could of been sexist comments made

During the time that Cantor worked as a wardrobe stylist at the network, Weinberger sent her “several nude pictures of himself and sexually explicit texts,” Cantor said in the lawsuit. Cantor also accused Weinberger of telling her that she “was put on earth to pleasure (him),” adding that he once pressed his crotch against her shoulder and asked her to touch it.

“Instead of saying good morning, Mr. Faulk greeted (Cantor) by fondling her breasts and groping her behind,” the suit said. “As time went on, Mr. Faulk became more aggressive, such as inviting (Cantor) to his hotel room, stroking and pulling out his genitals in front of her, pointing to his crotch and asking Plaintiff, ‘when are you gonna get on this already?'” the lawsuit said. “He also pinned (Cantor) against a wall, demanding oral sex while he pulled his pants down,” the suit alleges.

Davis, a former cornerback for the San Francisco 49ers, is accused of coming into Cantor’s office asking for help with his clothes “so he could grab and push/rub his body” against Cantor, the lawsuit said. She said that Davis said various other sexually-explicit comments, including things like: “I want you so bad,” “my cock is so hard because of you right now” and “you look like you would be an animal in the sheets.”

“I can’t handle your (butt), it is so luscious,” Cantor claimed that a text message sent to her from Davis said.

Cantor said that on at least one occasion, Davis said that he wanted to “choke” her from behind until she “begged him to stop.” Things continued to escalate, according to the suit. Cantor claims that one time while she was working on the set in the studio on a ladder, he grabbed her butt, sliding his hand in between her legs and touching her private area.

Ok, it's definitely not the face.

Gonna need to see some body pics of her to understand why these gentlemen were so enamored with her.

 

[deadeye]

if i hear any news about about doris burke

On the low, she's kinda thick too.

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

I have no doubt that some of these dudes did some out of line shit, but like someone said, this is basically becoming a witch hunt. At this point, dudes are being fired over allegations and nothing more. That's crazy. Any chick that has beef with a dude can accuse him of sexually harassing her, which could basically be anything and that's enough to put him in hot water.

It don't seem to be that simple in majority of these cases. Look at Matt Lauer. His firing seems quick til they came out and said they had been investigating him for months already. Alot of these networks seem to now be just doing private investigations into these claims and then going public with the info all at once. That's part of why it seems so sudden. Now the fact that all these investigations seem to be concluding at the same time is suspect and shows that they've known about these shits for a while, knew a storm was brewing, and were trying to preemptively cover their ass.

I don't know. I mean I get the feeling that everyone men and women, have known about this shit, but just accepted it. Now a few people have come out, and everyone is trying to retroactively hold people responsible for things done in the past. For egregious shit, I get that, but if there was a general culture was some things were just seen as accepted, I think it's a little fucked up to go back and hold everyone accountable. I'm fine with saying certain behavior is wrong and should cease. I just don't think its right for a chick to go along with some shit for ten years like it's cool, and then suddenly come out as a victim without ever actually calling the dude out on the wrongdoing.

Like I read about this shit with Selma Hayek and Harvey Weinstein. Basically, she wanted to do a movie and he agreed to fund it. The whole time they were making the movie, he was propositioning her. He's a piece of shit for that. However, if she never called him on it and just dealt with it, why would she have thought that he would stop. Finally, he gave her an ultimatium that either she add a naked lesbo sex scene of herself and someone else in the movie, or he'd pull funding. Again, he's a piece of shit for that, but she wasn't forced to have that scene as she claims. She chose to have it. She could have walked, but she didn't. I understand she had reasons that made it hard to do so, but doing that is taking a stand and would have been worthy of praise. I'm just having a hard time applauding these chicks for coming out of the woodwork years later to pile on after its become a movement. That said if even a tenth of the shit that is being claimed is true these dudes are wildin to an unbelievable extent.

the piling on is ppl trying to change the culture

believe the thinking is, if i come forward to speak on what happened to me in 1999 and shad light on what often happens behind the scenes with these powerful exes it may give another aspiring actor or intern who is dealing with the shit today strength/inspiration to do the same

and let's not pretend like 5 or even 10 years ago these accusations were or would have been treated as they are today

there's also the believability factor.... if a young intern comes forward with accusations against a rich and powerful man/woman often times the reaction is the accuser is "just looking for a come up", "a jilted lover", "so and so would never do that". see the pattern? ... the more women come forward it only does more to bolster the accusers claims... a woman of selma's status and stature in the industry furthers helps this cause

and you don't think the accusers who come forward years or even decades later, you think it's easy for them to do so when they see that their abuser has continue to abuse and exploit others? no one is trying to excuse her from being silent

 

[northside7]

Yea time after time you hear of cases of women just taking it so they could advance there careers.. its a terrible position to be put in however.. they made choices ala Salma she envisioned her moment and gritted her teeth and put up with with because she felt powerless to do anything about it and had career ambitions.. Puts me in a fucked up space.. To me everyone should have a line.. and i think that is 15 miles past a line..

Yeah, I don't want it misconstrued, I don't blame Salma for what that CaC did. I just think that everyone should acknowledge that we all make choices. If everyday, that dude went at her inappropriately and she just grinned and bared it because he was financing her dream, that was a choice. If she did a scene in a movie that she didn't want to do because her movie depended on it, that too was a choice. It was a fucked up choice, but it was a choice. I'd still consider her a victim, but she wasn't forced to do anything.

fuck that i blame her for not saying shit... coulda prevented it from happpening to someone else. also if a chick willingly fucks to advance her career she has no ground to stand on.... they wanna double dip... cash in move up then years later cash out and cry sexual abuse.... naw u choose to do it

Co-sign. Suck and fuck to get on, make millions, and then cry foul. Foh.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I have no doubt that some of these dudes did some out of line shit, but like someone said, this is basically becoming a witch hunt. At this point, dudes are being fired over allegations and nothing more. That's crazy. Any chick that has beef with a dude can accuse him of sexually harassing her, which could basically be anything and that's enough to put him in hot water.

It don't seem to be that simple in majority of these cases. Look at Matt Lauer. His firing seems quick til they came out and said they had been investigating him for months already. Alot of these networks seem to now be just doing private investigations into these claims and then going public with the info all at once. That's part of why it seems so sudden. Now the fact that all these investigations seem to be concluding at the same time is suspect and shows that they've known about these shits for a while, knew a storm was brewing, and were trying to preemptively cover their ass.

I don't know. I mean I get the feeling that everyone men and women, have known about this shit, but just accepted it. Now a few people have come out, and everyone is trying to retroactively hold people responsible for things done in the past. For egregious shit, I get that, but if there was a general culture was some things were just seen as accepted, I think it's a little fucked up to go back and hold everyone accountable. I'm fine with saying certain behavior is wrong and should cease. I just don't think its right for a chick to go along with some shit for ten years like it's cool, and then suddenly come out as a victim without ever actually calling the dude out on the wrongdoing.

Like I read about this shit with Selma Hayek and Harvey Weinstein. Basically, she wanted to do a movie and he agreed to fund it. The whole time they were making the movie, he was propositioning her. He's a piece of shit for that. However, if she never called him on it and just dealt with it, why would she have thought that he would stop. Finally, he gave her an ultimatium that either she add a naked lesbo sex scene of herself and someone else in the movie, or he'd pull funding. Again, he's a piece of shit for that, but she wasn't forced to have that scene as she claims. She chose to have it. She could have walked, but she didn't. I understand she had reasons that made it hard to do so, but doing that is taking a stand and would have been worthy of praise. I'm just having a hard time applauding these chicks for coming out of the woodwork years later to pile on after its become a movement. That said if even a tenth of the shit that is being claimed is true these dudes are wildin to an unbelievable extent.

the piling on is ppl trying to change the culture

believe the thinking is, if i come forward to speak on what happened to me in 1999 and shad light on what often happens behind the scenes with these powerful exes it may give another aspiring actor or intern who is dealing with the shit today strength/inspiration to do the same

and let's not pretend like 5 or even 10 years ago these accusations were or would have been treated as they are today

there's also the believability factor.... if a young intern comes forward with accusations against a rich and powerful man/woman often times the reaction is the accuser is "just looking for a come up", "a jilted lover", "so and so would never do that". see the pattern? ... the more women come forward it only does more to bolster the accusers claims... a woman of selma's status and stature in the industry furthers helps this cause

and you don't think the accusers who come forward years or even decades later, you think it's easy for them to do so when they see that their abuser has continue to abuse and exploit others? no one is trying to excuse her from being silent

I feel you. I'm not really condemning the piling on. I understand that it's necessary to make the changes. I just don't think they are what people are making them to be. They are doing their part, but it's not the same as taking that initial step. Anyways, like I said, I'm not bashing Salma or the others, I just don't like that they characterize what happened to them as being forced because there are people who are forced to do things they don't want and that's a different matter.

 

[MR.CJ]

https://twitter.com/nypostsports/status/941442879028854784

 

[MR.CJ]

I have no doubt that some of these dudes did some out of line shit, but like someone said, this is basically becoming a witch hunt. At this point, dudes are being fired over allegations and nothing more. That's crazy. Any chick that has beef with a dude can accuse him of sexually harassing her, which could basically be anything and that's enough to put him in hot water.

It don't seem to be that simple in majority of these cases. Look at Matt Lauer. His firing seems quick til they came out and said they had been investigating him for months already. Alot of these networks seem to now be just doing private investigations into these claims and then going public with the info all at once. That's part of why it seems so sudden. Now the fact that all these investigations seem to be concluding at the same time is suspect and shows that they've known about these shits for a while, knew a storm was brewing, and were trying to preemptively cover their ass.

I don't know. I mean I get the feeling that everyone men and women, have known about this shit, but just accepted it. Now a few people have come out, and everyone is trying to retroactively hold people responsible for things done in the past. For egregious shit, I get that, but if there was a general culture was some things were just seen as accepted, I think it's a little fucked up to go back and hold everyone accountable. I'm fine with saying certain behavior is wrong and should cease. I just don't think its right for a chick to go along with some shit for ten years like it's cool, and then suddenly come out as a victim without ever actually calling the dude out on the wrongdoing.

Like I read about this shit with Selma Hayek and Harvey Weinstein. Basically, she wanted to do a movie and he agreed to fund it. The whole time they were making the movie, he was propositioning her. He's a piece of shit for that. However, if she never called him on it and just dealt with it, why would she have thought that he would stop. Finally, he gave her an ultimatium that either she add a naked lesbo sex scene of herself and someone else in the movie, or he'd pull funding. Again, he's a piece of shit for that, but she wasn't forced to have that scene as she claims. She chose to have it. She could have walked, but she didn't. I understand she had reasons that made it hard to do so, but doing that is taking a stand and would have been worthy of praise. I'm just having a hard time applauding these chicks for coming out of the woodwork years later to pile on after its become a movement. That said if even a tenth of the shit that is being claimed is true these dudes are wildin to an unbelievable extent.

That's just it though...this "culture" made it so many couldn't speak out without losing their careers. I don't look at it as a matter of the shit was accepted more like people on the shitty end of these comments and propositions had no way to actually have anything done even if they did come out and say something. Some of us have the common sense to differentiate between harmless flirting vs making somebody clearly uncomfortable and the shit said in these allegations are way past that line. Thats why I say dudes sound stupid saying shit like "well you can't even give a compliment anymore" like they don't know the difference between "hey that's a nice dress" vs "damn look at your titties sitting right today".

Lol facts

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I have no doubt that some of these dudes did some out of line shit, but like someone said, this is basically becoming a witch hunt. At this point, dudes are being fired over allegations and nothing more. That's crazy. Any chick that has beef with a dude can accuse him of sexually harassing her, which could basically be anything and that's enough to put him in hot water.

It don't seem to be that simple in majority of these cases. Look at Matt Lauer. His firing seems quick til they came out and said they had been investigating him for months already. Alot of these networks seem to now be just doing private investigations into these claims and then going public with the info all at once. That's part of why it seems so sudden. Now the fact that all these investigations seem to be concluding at the same time is suspect and shows that they've known about these shits for a while, knew a storm was brewing, and were trying to preemptively cover their ass.

I don't know. I mean I get the feeling that everyone men and women, have known about this shit, but just accepted it. Now a few people have come out, and everyone is trying to retroactively hold people responsible for things done in the past. For egregious shit, I get that, but if there was a general culture was some things were just seen as accepted, I think it's a little fucked up to go back and hold everyone accountable. I'm fine with saying certain behavior is wrong and should cease. I just don't think its right for a chick to go along with some shit for ten years like it's cool, and then suddenly come out as a victim without ever actually calling the dude out on the wrongdoing.

Like I read about this shit with Selma Hayek and Harvey Weinstein. Basically, she wanted to do a movie and he agreed to fund it. The whole time they were making the movie, he was propositioning her. He's a piece of shit for that. However, if she never called him on it and just dealt with it, why would she have thought that he would stop. Finally, he gave her an ultimatium that either she add a naked lesbo sex scene of herself and someone else in the movie, or he'd pull funding. Again, he's a piece of shit for that, but she wasn't forced to have that scene as she claims. She chose to have it. She could have walked, but she didn't. I understand she had reasons that made it hard to do so, but doing that is taking a stand and would have been worthy of praise. I'm just having a hard time applauding these chicks for coming out of the woodwork years later to pile on after its become a movement. That said if even a tenth of the shit that is being claimed is true these dudes are wildin to an unbelievable extent.

That's just it though...this "culture" made it so many couldn't speak out without losing their careers. I don't look at it as a matter of the shit was accepted more like people on the shitty end of these comments and propositions had no way to actually have anything done even if they did come out and say something. Some of us have the common sense to differentiate between harmless flirting vs making somebody clearly uncomfortable and the shit said in these allegations are way past that line. Thats why I say dudes sound stupid saying shit like "well you can't even give a compliment anymore" like they don't know the difference between "hey that's a nice dress" vs "damn look at your titties sitting right today".

Lol facts

Ya'll acting like chicks aren't saying that simple shit like "Hey, why aren't you smiling?" is harassment too. Niggas aren't responding to normal chicks. When they say you can't compliment a woman anymore, they are talking about this extremist SJW bullshit that's popular these days.

 

[Alpha_Ambition]

https://twitter.com/nypostsports/status/941442879028854784

Welp Fantasy Football gonna change

 

[mc317]

 

[Angeles1son85]

Dustin Hoffman Accused of Exposing Himself to a Minor, Assaulting Two Women

Cori Thomas was in high school when she says Dustin Hoffman exposed himself to her in a hotel room. Melissa Kester was a recent college graduate when Hoffman allegedly sexually assaulted her while recording audio for the film “Ishtar.” A third woman, who asked to remain anonymous, said that Hoffman assaulted her in the back of a station wagon and manipulated her into a subsequent sexual encounter that left her traumatized.

Representatives for Hoffman did not make him available to provide comment for this story. In a letter to Variety’s owner Penske Media Corp., Hoffman’s attorney Mark A. Neubauer of Carlton Fields Jordan Burt called the accusations against the actor “defamatory falsehoods.”

Thomas was 16 years old and a high-school classmate of Hoffman’s daughter Karina at the United Nations International School in New York when she met the actor in 1980. An aspiring actor, she had spent a Sunday afternoon with Karina and Hoffman walking in Manhattan — visiting the Drama Bookshop, where, she said, Hoffman bought her a copy of Edward Albee’s “The Zoo Story,” and eating dinner at Jim McMullin’s on the Upper East Side, where she had veal piccata for the first time. They also visited the San Remo on Central Park West, where Hoffman, in the midst of a divorce from his first wife, Anne Byrne, was buying an apartment. Hoffman showed Thomas and Karina the apartment, which was being renovated while Hoffman stayed at a hotel near the house that he and Byrne had shared.

“This was at first one of the greatest days of my life,” she said. “One of my idols was spending time with me and talking with me respectfully.”

Thomas’ parents — her father was the U.N. ambassador from Liberia — were supposed to pick her up at the restaurant. But, according to Thomas, Hoffman suggested that the three of them wait at the hotel where he was staying and leave a note for Thomas’ parents with the maitre d’ saying they had gone to the hotel. After the three arrived at Hoffman’s hotel room, “Either Karina or Dustin suggested that [Karina] should go home” to Hoffman and Byrne’s house nearby, Thomas said, “because it was a school night and she had homework. So she left, and I was left in the hotel room with him alone.”

Shortly after Karina departed, according to Thomas, Hoffman went to the restroom. She heard the shower turn on. “I was just sitting there waiting for my parents,” Thomas said.

After several minutes, “He came out of the bathroom with a towel at first wrapped around him, which he dropped,” Thomas said. “He was standing there naked. I think I almost collapsed, actually. It was the first time I had ever seen a naked man. I was mortified. I didn’t know what to do. And he milked it. He milked the fact that he was naked. He stood there. He took his time.”

Hoffman eventually put on a robe and sat on the bed, according to Thomas, who said that he then asked her to massage his feet. She complied.

“I didn’t know what to do in the circumstance,” she said. “I didn’t know that I could say no, so I did it. And he kept telling me, ‘I’m naked. Do you want to see?’” Thomas said that she pretended not to hear Hoffman as he made suggestive comments to her.

Watch John Oliver grill Dustin Hoffman about sexual harassment allegations this was a week ago but the story from today

 

[fortyacres]

Yeah Dustin Hoffmayne is done...