JokerzWyld;c-9663690 said:
fortyacres;c-9663297 said:
JokerzWyld;c-9663240 said:
Moonlight wasn't an impressive film to me. I couldn't care less about the homosexuality in the film. It felt fake. The dialogue was sparse to the point of being non existent. The script was weak. The quality of the actors couldn't compensate for that weakness IMO.
Manchester was an average film with no character development. Casey Affleck's range as an actor in that film was inferior compared to Denzel & Viola in Fences, and Emma Stone in La La Land.
Birth of a Nation being snubbed was clearly political and very disgraceful, even for the academy. It was a strong film with strong actors, a strong plot, etc. Hidden Figures was decent but the drama seemed contrived in an unrealistic way to bolster a feminist position. Fences was most deserving of Best Picture in that category with the films included. I'm not surprised it lost though; when has the academy ever gotten it right?
No i really disagree on Fences ,it still looked like alot like a stage play. It had Great dialogue and performances (from Denzel and Viola) but was not the best picture , nowhere near.
Moonlight deserves best picture the cinematography, the colors used ,the grit , it felt like that part of miami and had better use of music and nuance. Also three different actors playing the same person at three different stages in their lives and all performance being that on point , if you cant appreciate that direction or the themes then you dont like or understand cinema.
Moreover how is hidden figures a feminist position movie when its actually a true story that needed exposure and telling?
Birth of a Nation had amateur directing and editing, the story was not well told.
Its subjective but they do get it right in that category most times than not:
Great Best Pictures in the last 18 years imo
12 Years a Slave
The King's Speech
No Country for Old Men
Slumdog Millionaire
The Departed
Million Dollar Baby
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
A Beautiful Mind
Gladiator
American Beauty
Fences was designed to look like a play. However, would that be any different than Birdman.
Moonlight was no different than Pariah to me, and as far as the time skips, Boyhood was more revolutionary.
I felt like Hidden Figures was pushing the feminist agenda by showing black men discouraging the characters from reaching their goals. I felt that was contrived because none of those men ever stopped those women from pursuing their careers. The film began with them already working for NASA. So obviously they weren't in the way of black women's progress to the extent that Taraji's character accused Mahershala's character of doing.
The TS is making a point here that strong, assertive black male characters are excluded from Oscar wins. With that point in mind Will Smith lost for Ali, Denzel Lost for Malcolm X, and Nate Parker wasn't even nominated. At this point there is nothing more to discuss.
NAACP Image awards >>>>>>> Oscars/Grammys/Emmys
It was not designed to look like a play dude don't kid yourself , it was supposed to be adapted for Film , and also by that argument it does not deserve best picture because it did not translate best to film. Birdman was not a shot the same was as Fences and is not a play adaptation , its a movie about the theatre there is a difference there.
Will Smith was nominated for Ali and Ali was a lackluster movie and Will Smith under delivered , also Will Smith lost to Denzel Washington that year for training day and would've lost to Russel Crowe for John Nash if Denzel hadn't won , so in other words he did not even have the strongest performance in that category that year.
The Malcolm X lost by Denzel you have a point , but they had to give Al Pacino (A women's Scent) a semi pity Oscar coz of the 70s/80s snubs and Denzel had already won in 1990 for Support Role in Glory , so yes there was politics there, but Clint Eastwood was nominated for Unforgiven and Stephen Rea for the Crying game so it was still gonna be close.
Nate Parker did not deserve a best actor nom and i will repeat that.
Also to say the NAACP awards are better is just making yourself feel better because it only caters for one ethnic group specifically so No.
I would say Jamie Foxx as Ray was "assertive"
Forrest Whitaker as Idi Amin was "assertive"
Louise Gosset Jr as Sergeant Foley was "assertive"
Morgan Freeman as Eddie Dupris was "assertive"
Denzel as Private Trip was "assertive"
If Denzel would have won best male actor (which i think he deserved although Casey Affleck did his thing) y'all would be mad he was a angry deadbeat type father who cheated on his black wife and created some conspiracies about that.
I really don't think there is any way of making you dudes happy because if you check all the black nominees through out the academies' their character backgrounds were pretty eclectic and like it or not most of the time they have lost to just better performances by other actors in those years if you check who the competition was. Heck Leonardo Dicaprio can attest to just not being nice enough every other time he had lost before last year.