Hollywood Got Jokes And Clowns Black Men All At The Same Damn Time

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fortyacres;c-9663429 said:
blue_london;c-9663414 said:
Moral of the story moonlight was a great film it deserved the awards won.

I haven't seen hidden figures the white hero stuff really put me off.

what white hero stuff? , you do know its a true story based on a book written by a Black Woman ?

if the white actor isn't playing the devil himself, they're the hero

if the black actor isn't playing what they deem to be a saint, powers that be are "pushing an agenda"
 
Already Home_17;c-9663442 said:
fortyacres;c-9663429 said:
blue_london;c-9663414 said:
Moral of the story moonlight was a great film it deserved the awards won.

I haven't seen hidden figures the white hero stuff really put me off.

what white hero stuff? , you do know its a true story based on a book written by a Black Woman ?

if the white actor isn't playing the devil himself, they're the hero

if the black actor isn't playing what they deem to be a saint, powers that be are "pushing an agenda"

i still think that wouldnt be enough lmao.
 
fortyacres;c-9663429 said:
blue_london;c-9663414 said:
Moral of the story moonlight was a great film it deserved the awards won.

I haven't seen hidden figures the white hero stuff really put me off.

what white hero stuff? , you do know its a true story based on a book written by a Black Woman ?

I know it's a true story however some scenes was added the director said

He didn’t see a problem with adding a white hero into the story.

“There needs to be white people who do the right thing, there needs to be black people who do the right thing,” Melfi said. “And someone does the right thing. And so who cares who does the right thing, as long as the right thing is achieved?”

 
Already Home_17;c-9663442 said:
fortyacres;c-9663429 said:
blue_london;c-9663414 said:
Moral of the story moonlight was a great film it deserved the awards won.

I haven't seen hidden figures the white hero stuff really put me off.

what white hero stuff? , you do know its a true story based on a book written by a Black Woman ?

if the white actor isn't playing the devil himself, they're the hero

if the black actor isn't playing what they deem to be a saint, powers that be are "pushing an agenda"

I agree that's the attitude here however in this situation it's relevant
 
blue_london;c-9663458 said:
fortyacres;c-9663429 said:
blue_london;c-9663414 said:
Moral of the story moonlight was a great film it deserved the awards won.

I haven't seen hidden figures the white hero stuff really put me off.

what white hero stuff? , you do know its a true story based on a book written by a Black Woman ?

I know it's a true story however some scenes was added the director said

He didn’t see a problem with adding a white hero into the story.

“There needs to be white people who do the right thing, there needs to be black people who do the right thing,” Melfi said. “And someone does the right thing. And so who cares who does the right thing, as long as the right thing is achieved?”

But there were white people who did the right thing(s) or NASA would still be segregated.

Have you even watched the movie before just making these white savior claims ?

and from the accounts ive heard from some black engineers who worked for JPL/NASA Gus Grissom ,Alan Shepard and John Glenn where some stand up white dude so....

 
fortyacres;c-9663476 said:
blue_london;c-9663458 said:
fortyacres;c-9663429 said:
blue_london;c-9663414 said:
Moral of the story moonlight was a great film it deserved the awards won.

I haven't seen hidden figures the white hero stuff really put me off.

what white hero stuff? , you do know its a true story based on a book written by a Black Woman ?

I know it's a true story however some scenes was added the director said

He didn’t see a problem with adding a white hero into the story.

“There needs to be white people who do the right thing, there needs to be black people who do the right thing,” Melfi said. “And someone does the right thing. And so who cares who does the right thing, as long as the right thing is achieved?”

But there were white people who did the right thing(s) or NASA would still be segregated.

Have you even watched the movie before just making these white savior claims ?

and from the accounts ive heard from some black engineers who worked for JPL/NASA Gus Grissom ,Alan Shepard and John Glenn where some stand up white dude so....

The point is things were added in. I'm not saying there was never good white people that would be insane and if people needed a film to highlight that issue then they need to grow up. what I'm saying is irrelevant things was added to the plot to be a hero the bathroom scene did not happen....

The book states very clearly that Johnson “refused to so much as enter the Coloured bathrooms,” and that nobody ever tried to make her do so. Would that not highlight NASA as an organisation that doesn't have racist beliefs?

To confirm this, I asked Johnson if she used the Coloured bathrooms. “I just went on in the white one,” she said.

Johnson told me she was at her desk when the launch took place; she was not allowed into Mission Control. The book confirms this: She “sat tight in the office, watching the transmission on a television.”

Those scenes was added to be a white hero.

 
Trillfate;c-9663478 said:
https://twitter.com/kimbafuzz/status/836083862094626816

I seen alot of people complain about this snatching... It was needed. Someone had to take charge and it was all his fault. He shoulda said it was the wrong card from the get-go.

New rule... Nobody over age of 60 is allowed to read card winners.
 
TheGOAT;c-9663532 said:
Trillfate;c-9663478 said:
https://twitter.com/kimbafuzz/status/836083862094626816

I seen alot of people complain about this snatching... It was needed. Someone had to take charge and it was all his fault. He shoulda said it was the wrong card from the get-go.

New rule... Nobody over age of 60 is allowed to read card winners.

he knew something was wrong from the get-go

it was the co-presenter who announced lala land won
 
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Already Home_17;c-9663541 said:
TheGOAT;c-9663532 said:
Trillfate;c-9663478 said:
https://twitter.com/kimbafuzz/status/836083862094626816

I seen alot of people complain about this snatching... It was needed. Someone had to take charge and it was all his fault. He shoulda said it was the wrong card from the get-go.

New rule... Nobody over age of 60 is allowed to read card winners.

he knew something was wrong from the get-go

it was the co-presenter who announced lala land won

Yeah, you could see he was trying to buy time.
 
TheGOAT;c-9663532 said:
Trillfate;c-9663478 said:
https://twitter.com/kimbafuzz/status/836083862094626816

I seen alot of people complain about this snatching... It was needed. Someone had to take charge and it was all his fault. He shoulda said it was the wrong card from the get-go.

New rule... Nobody over age of 60 is allowed to read card winners.

Warren knew something was up when he open the envelope and it said emma stone which was previous category winner .
 
blue_london;c-9663458 said:
fortyacres;c-9663429 said:
blue_london;c-9663414 said:
Moral of the story moonlight was a great film it deserved the awards won.

I haven't seen hidden figures the white hero stuff really put me off.

what white hero stuff? , you do know its a true story based on a book written by a Black Woman ?

I know it's a true story however some scenes was added the director said

He didn’t see a problem with adding a white hero into the story.

“There needs to be white people who do the right thing, there needs to be black people who do the right thing,” Melfi said. “And someone does the right thing. And so who cares who does the right thing, as long as the right thing is achieved?”

But they do that for damn near every movie based on a true story.

Hell for years, until I read his Autobiography, I thought once Malcolm X and his siblings were sent to foster care that he never saw them again. But that's not true at all, he lived w/ his sister when he was in Boston and it was a sibling or 2 that introduced him to Islam when he was in prison and he had some communication with them while he was in the NOI. For whatever reason Spike left all that out the movie.

 
Yea he knew it was wrong but he didnt say shit. Dont his mouthpiece work?

Then instead of addressing it he played the female and handed it to her
 
TheGOAT;c-9663587 said:
Yea he knew it was wrong but he didnt say shit. Dont his mouthpiece work?

Then instead of addressing it he played the female and handed it to her


Look like he was showing her like "yo you see this shit?" Lol
 
Revolver Ocelot;c-9663578 said:
blue_london;c-9663458 said:
fortyacres;c-9663429 said:
blue_london;c-9663414 said:
Moral of the story moonlight was a great film it deserved the awards won.

I haven't seen hidden figures the white hero stuff really put me off.

what white hero stuff? , you do know its a true story based on a book written by a Black Woman ?

I know it's a true story however some scenes was added the director said

He didn’t see a problem with adding a white hero into the story.

“There needs to be white people who do the right thing, there needs to be black people who do the right thing,” Melfi said. “And someone does the right thing. And so who cares who does the right thing, as long as the right thing is achieved?”

But they do that for damn near every movie based on a true story.

Hell for years, until I read his Autobiography, I thought once Malcolm X and his siblings were sent to foster care that he never saw them again. But that's not true at all, he lived w/ his sister when he was in Boston and it was a sibling or 2 that introduced him to Islam when he was in prison and he had some communication with them while he was in the NOI. For whatever reason Spike left all that out the movie.

I fully understand that and I'm not discrediting the work done just saying that put me off the film.

I would personally prefer they didn't add those scenes and try keep it as factual as possible. Without those scenes it wouldn't of hurt the film.
 
blue_london;c-9663631 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9663578 said:
blue_london;c-9663458 said:
fortyacres;c-9663429 said:
blue_london;c-9663414 said:
Moral of the story moonlight was a great film it deserved the awards won.

I haven't seen hidden figures the white hero stuff really put me off.

what white hero stuff? , you do know its a true story based on a book written by a Black Woman ?

I know it's a true story however some scenes was added the director said

He didn’t see a problem with adding a white hero into the story.

“There needs to be white people who do the right thing, there needs to be black people who do the right thing,” Melfi said. “And someone does the right thing. And so who cares who does the right thing, as long as the right thing is achieved?”

But they do that for damn near every movie based on a true story.

Hell for years, until I read his Autobiography, I thought once Malcolm X and his siblings were sent to foster care that he never saw them again. But that's not true at all, he lived w/ his sister when he was in Boston and it was a sibling or 2 that introduced him to Islam when he was in prison and he had some communication with them while he was in the NOI. For whatever reason Spike left all that out the movie.

I fully understand that and I'm not discrediting the work done just saying that put me off the film.

I would personally prefer they didn't add those scenes and try keep it as factual as possible. Without those scenes it wouldn't of hurt the film.

But you do realise for them to actually be part of the NASA Gemini program white people also had to cosign ?
 
fortyacres;c-9663297 said:
JokerzWyld;c-9663240 said:
Moonlight wasn't an impressive film to me. I couldn't care less about the homosexuality in the film. It felt fake. The dialogue was sparse to the point of being non existent. The script was weak. The quality of the actors couldn't compensate for that weakness IMO.

Manchester was an average film with no character development. Casey Affleck's range as an actor in that film was inferior compared to Denzel & Viola in Fences, and Emma Stone in La La Land.

Birth of a Nation being snubbed was clearly political and very disgraceful, even for the academy. It was a strong film with strong actors, a strong plot, etc. Hidden Figures was decent but the drama seemed contrived in an unrealistic way to bolster a feminist position. Fences was most deserving of Best Picture in that category with the films included. I'm not surprised it lost though; when has the academy ever gotten it right?

No i really disagree on Fences ,it still looked like alot like a stage play. It had Great dialogue and performances (from Denzel and Viola) but was not the best picture , nowhere near.

Moonlight deserves best picture the cinematography, the colors used ,the grit , it felt like that part of miami and had better use of music and nuance. Also three different actors playing the same person at three different stages in their lives and all performance being that on point , if you cant appreciate that direction or the themes then you dont like or understand cinema.

Moreover how is hidden figures a feminist position movie when its actually a true story that needed exposure and telling?

Birth of a Nation had amateur directing and editing, the story was not well told.

Its subjective but they do get it right in that category most times than not:

Great Best Pictures in the last 18 years imo

12 Years a Slave

The King's Speech

No Country for Old Men

Slumdog Millionaire

The Departed

Million Dollar Baby

The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King

A Beautiful Mind

Gladiator

American Beauty

Fences was designed to look like a play. However, would that be any different than Birdman.

Moonlight was no different than Pariah to me, and as far as the time skips, Boyhood was more revolutionary.

I felt like Hidden Figures was pushing the feminist agenda by showing black men discouraging the characters from reaching their goals. I felt that was contrived because none of those men ever stopped those women from pursuing their careers. The film began with them already working for NASA. So obviously they weren't in the way of black women's progress to the extent that Taraji's character accused Mahershala's character of doing.

The TS is making a point here that strong, assertive black male characters are excluded from Oscar wins. With that point in mind Will Smith lost for Ali, Denzel Lost for Malcolm X, and Nate Parker wasn't even nominated. At this point there is nothing more to discuss.

NAACP Image awards >>>>>>> Oscars/Grammys/Emmys
 

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