Hiphop Repeats itself and Lil Wayne is about to fall off

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hnic1978;3281969 said:
2 and 3 are not true. There are rappers eating WELL being true to themselves. Its the talentless gimmicks that are struggling. Yo Gotti is a perfect example. He doesn't have a studio album to this day and he doesn't have a top 40 song on the radio. Hell i don't even know what label hes signed to if he is signed to one BUT the nigga is eating and eating well strictly off mixtapes and touring. Its ur approach to hip hop that dictate whether u succeed or fail.

Also we ARE able to think for ourselves. I like Lil Wayne cuz i like his music. Its not about i saw him in the jeggings or his 300 tattoos and thought i wanna be like him.

I'm not speaking about you or any (wo)man on this forum. I'm talking about those kids who see someone who looks like them in the media and come to the conclusion on their own that he is the standard of being a black man. It's unfortunate that those same kids can't look to their parents,but not surprising. After all, the moral integrity of America is declining at an astonishing rate.
 
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AaliyahA;3282273 said:
I'm not speaking about you or any (wo)man on this forum. I'm talking about those kids who see someone who looks like them in the media and come to the conclusion on their own that he is the standard of being a black man. It's unfortunate that those same kids can't look to their parents,but not surprising. After all, the moral integrity of America is declining at an astonishing rate.

raise
your
own
fucking
children
 
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BackInWhite;3282308 said:
raise

your

own

fucking

children

OK. OK. We get it. Those 5 words solve everything. But how can these grown parents raise their own children when they haven't be raised by their parents or they've never had a good example to follow when it comes to relationships? Or how about when the parents themselves are accepting Wayne as the standard?

Your ass probably thinks BET is run by blacks huh?
 
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FoolTime;3282329 said:
stop
sucking
wayne
dick

Him and Eminem turning hip hop into a white genre

They don't hear you. These are the same people who think racism is over because Obama is President. Ha! The same people who think Wayne is GOAT. Ha!
Niggas don't even know that MTV & those WHITE labels are run by racist, was created by racists.
 
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SMH @ people thinking a 4minute song has more influence over kids than their parents do. You're shitting on your own people by thinking that. You honestly believe these young children look up to a Wayne LOL. I grew up on Wayne, and never did I look at him as anything more than a good rapper. The only person I looked up to as a kid on a consistent basis was my FATHER .. and after that it was other family members who were doing their thing i.e. Mother, Older Cousin, Uncles etc.

Music is entertainment, TV is entertainment, movies are entertainment. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
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FoolTime;3282329 said:
stop
sucking
wayne
dick

Him and Eminem turning hip hop into a white genre

fuck lil wayne and eminem and fuck hip hop, nigga
hip hop don't supposed to raise your children
hip hop ain't supposed to teach you shit
don't nobody give a fuck when every movie that comes out for the summer is a super hero movie
but when all you hear on the radio is trap talk and strip clubs it's a problem
why?
hip hop is entertainment
it's meant to entertain
not teach or inform or raise children
so all this complaining you niggas is doing on this hip hop website ain't changin shit
go mentor a lil kid if it's such a problem with you what's on the radio
teach a lil nigga the difference between right and wrong
tell the lil muhfucka how music don't reflect real life and that final decisions are ultimately left up to whoever is making them
and don't tell me to stop suckin somebody dick, nigga
that implies that i was suckin it to begin with which is far from the truth
i dislike lil wayne and haven't bought an album of his since 500 degreez
but to act like him and eminem turning the genre into a white genre means that the kids somehow have to suffer thru anything other than lame music is ignorant

AaliyahA;3282390 said:
OK. OK. We get it. Those 5 words solve everything. But how can these grown parents raise their own children when they haven't be raised by their parents or they've never had a good example to follow when it comes to relationships? Or how about when the parents themselves are accepting Wayne as the standard?

Your ass probably thinks BET is run by blacks huh?

what the fuck are you talkin about?
wayne as the standard for what, nigga?
good music?
fuck does that have to do with a household?
you tellin me a bitch that loves lil wayne wouldn't be able to functionally raise a child?
the demise of the black household has not shit to do with lil wayne
you giving that nigga too much power and it's starting to make you look stupid
also, i wouldn't give a fuck who bet is run by CUZ I DON'T WATCH THAT SHIT
you know why?
cuz i made a conscious decision not to waste my time on bullshit i don't like nor care about
you think i'm gon blame them for why niggas and bitches ain't shit tho?
fuck no
niggas and bitches ain't shit for a plethora of reasons, BET ain't 1 of them
 
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BackInWhite;3282589 said:
fuck lil wayne and eminem and fuck hip hop, nigga

hip hop don't supposed to raise your children

hip hop ain't supposed to teach you shit

don't nobody give a fuck when every movie that comes out for the summer is a super hero movie

but when all you hear on the radio is trap talk and strip clubs it's a problem

why?

hip hop is entertainment

it's meant to entertain

not teach or inform or raise children

so all this complaining you niggas is doing on this hip hop website ain't changin shit

go mentor a lil kid if it's such a problem with you what's on the radio

teach a lil nigga the difference between right and wrong

tell the lil muhfucka how music don't reflect real life and that final decisions are ultimately left up to whoever is making them

and don't tell me to stop suckin somebody dick, nigga

that implies that i was suckin it to begin with which is far from the truth

i dislike lil wayne and haven't bought an album of his since 500 degreez

but to act like him and eminem turning the genre into a white genre means that the kids somehow have to suffer thru anything other than lame music is ignorant

what the fuck are you talkin about?

wayne as the standard for what, nigga?

good music?

fuck does that have to do with a household?

you tellin me a bitch that loves lil wayne wouldn't be able to functionally raise a child?

the demise of the black household has not shit to do with lil wayne

you giving that nigga too much power and it's starting to make you look stupid

also, i wouldn't give a fuck who bet is run by CUZ I DON'T WATCH THAT SHIT

you know why?

cuz i made a conscious decision not to waste my time on bullshit i don't like nor care about

you think i'm gon blame them for why niggas and bitches ain't shit tho?

fuck no

niggas and bitches ain't shit for a plethora of reasons, BET ain't 1 of them

I aint reading that autobiography you just wrote but it looks like its some disrespectful shit so fuck you and ya mama nigga
 
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FoolTime;3282635 said:
I aint reading that autobiography you just wrote but it looks like its some disrespectful shit so fuck you and ya mama nigga

oh well, nigga
that ain't my problem
you in here bitchin about lil wayne fuckin up a genre and fuckin with the kid's minds
but you don't even wanna read
i don't take you seriously, b
 
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NothingButTheTruth;3282528 said:
SMH @ people thinking a 4minute song has more influence over kids than their parents do. You're shitting on your own people by thinking that. You honestly believe these young children look up to a Wayne LOL. I grew up on Wayne, and never did I look at him as anything more than a good rapper. The only person I looked up to as a kid on a consistent basis was my FATHER .. and after that it was other family members who were doing their thing i.e. Mother, Older Cousin, Uncles etc.

Music is entertainment, TV is entertainment, movies are entertainment. Nothing more, nothing less.

56% of black children grow up fatherless/have no postive male role models in their life. This is more than double the rate of other groups.

72% are born to unwed mothers.

More than 60% of the people in jail are blacks.

Continue to believe that music has no influence over kids whose subconscious mind is developing. Do you know what the subconscious mind is or what it controls. It controls your success, your view of the world, etc.
 
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AaliyahA;3282652 said:
56% of black children grow up fatherless/have no postive male role models in their life. This is more than double the rate of other groups.
72% are born to unwed mothers.
More than 60% of the people in jail are blacks.

Continue to believe that music has no influence over kids whose subconscious mind is developing. Do you know what the subconscious mind is or what it controls. It controls your success, your view of the world, etc.

just shut the fuck up, b
cuz you sayin music is the cause of all that shit
what about before hip hop?
my father wasn't around and hip hop wasn't thought of til he was a teenager
he wasn't raised on that shit
so you tellin me lil wayne went back in time and made my father a ain't shit nigga?
 
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BackInWhite;3282642 said:
oh well, nigga

that ain't my problem

you in here bitchin about lil wayne fuckin up a genre and fuckin with the kid's minds

but you don't even wanna read

i don't take you seriously, b

I aint say he was fuckin up kids minds. I said he was turning hip hop into skater nation. Got white people feelin gangster when they listen to that bullshit he be spittin. Got fuck boys thinkin they real niggas. Got fags sayin if Wayne can do it, I can too.
 
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NothingButTheTruth;3282528 said:
SMH @ people thinking a 4minute song has more influence over kids than their parents do. You're shitting on your own people by thinking that. You honestly believe these young children look up to a Wayne LOL. I grew up on Wayne, and never did I look at him as anything more than a good rapper. The only person I looked up to as a kid on a consistent basis was my FATHER .. and after that it was other family members who were doing their thing i.e. Mother, Older Cousin, Uncles etc.

Music is entertainment, TV is entertainment, movies are entertainment. Nothing more, nothing less
.

Close this damn thread
 
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FoolTime;3282732 said:
I aint say he was fuckin up kids minds. I said he was turning hip hop into skater nation. Got white people feelin gangster when they listen to that bullshit he be spittin. Got fuck boys thinkin they real niggas. Got fags sayin if Wayne can do it, I can too.

well is doin that
 
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BackInWhite;3282589 said:
fuck lil wayne and eminem and fuck hip hop, nigga
hip hop don't supposed to raise your children
hip hop ain't supposed to teach you shit
don't nobody give a fuck when every movie that comes out for the summer is a super hero movie
but when all you hear on the radio is trap talk and strip clubs it's a problem
why?
hip hop is entertainment
it's meant to entertain
not teach or inform or raise children
so all this complaining you niggas is doing on this hip hop website ain't changin shit
go mentor a lil kid if it's such a problem with you what's on the radio
teach a lil nigga the difference between right and wrong
tell the lil muhfucka how music don't reflect real life and that final decisions are ultimately left up to whoever is making them
and don't tell me to stop suckin somebody dick, nigga
that implies that i was suckin it to begin with which is far from the truth
i dislike lil wayne and haven't bought an album of his since 500 degreez
but to act like him and eminem turning the genre into a white genre means that the kids somehow have to suffer thru anything other than lame music is ignorant

what the fuck are you talkin about?
wayne as the standard for what, nigga?
good music?
fuck does that have to do with a household?
you tellin me a bitch that loves lil wayne wouldn't be able to functionally raise a child?
the demise of the black household has not shit to do with lil wayne
you giving that nigga too much power and it's starting to make you look stupid
also, i wouldn't give a fuck who bet is run by CUZ I DON'T WATCH THAT SHIT
you know why?
cuz i made a conscious decision not to waste my time on bullshit i don't like nor care about
you think i'm gon blame them for why niggas and bitches ain't shit tho?
fuck no
niggas and bitches ain't shit for a plethora of reasons, BET ain't 1 of them

You...you can't be serious right now. Throughout this whole post this guy sat here and wrote nothing that was a complete sentence. Can you speak without saying bitch?
On to your statement.
I'm ignorant but you have no idea the power of mind right? It takes something 3000 to become apart of you. By apart I mean for you to emulate it. I'll use you as an example:
you can't help but say bitches, bitches, bitches, BITCHES! Why? Because you've heard it said so many times, you've come to the conclusion that it's okay? It's a part of who you are now because you can't help but drop a bitch in almost EVERY post of yours. You don't even have to think about it, it just comes out huh?

I'll admit, maybe I didn't go about the right way to explain my point. But have you? Or have you said anything factual as I have?

If it takes 3,000x for you to see/hear/feel,etc. something for you to emulate it, these kids are done. They are set up for failure. An average child alone will see 3,000 advertisements/celebrity gossips/ etc. a day alone.

When someone has access to your eyes and your hears you're not you own (wo)man anymore. If you can't control your emotions for this rapper because it's clear you are getting very emotional on his behalf (I wonder why), than what does that say about how he has already influenced you?

Side Note: Charles Morison is known as one of the worst killers of all time. He didn't kill ONE person. He just used his charisma (Wayne is the only rapper who has this) & his smile to convince people to kill.

P.S: What household? My post before showed you that these boys have no father, & single mothers have to put food on the table. When they playing Wayne (&all these wack rappers) over and over they are rewiring their subconscious. READ A BOOK!
 
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He never been a good rapper so I say he fell off after 2005,Now if you mean popularity its hard to say as long as the mainstream heads are the masses.

Lil wayne can make the stupidest music you'll still have people bragging. Nonsense,these fans are ridiculous.
 
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AaliyahA;3282819 said:
You...you can't be serious right now. Throughout this whole post this guy sat here and wrote nothing that was a complete sentence. Can you speak without saying bitch?
On to your statement.
I'm ignorant but you have no idea the power of mind right? It takes something 3000 to become apart of you. By apart I mean for you to emulate it. I'll use you as an example:
you can't help but say bitches, bitches, bitches, BITCHES! Why? Because you've heard it said so many times, you've come to the conclusion that it's okay? It's a part of who you are now because you can't help but drop a bitch in almost EVERY post of yours. You don't even have to think about it, it just comes out huh?

I'll admit, maybe I didn't go about the right way to explain my point. But have you? Or have you said anything factual as I have?

If it takes 3,000x for you to see/hear/feel,etc. something for you to emulate it, these kids are done. They are set up for failure. An average child alone will see 3,000 advertisements/celebrity gossips/ etc. a day alone.

When someone has access to your eyes and your hears you're not you own (wo)man anymore. If you can't control your emotions for this rapper because it's clear you are getting very emotional on his behalf (I wonder why), than what does that say about how he has already influenced you?

Side Note: Charles Morison is known as one of the worst killers of all time. He didn't kill ONE person. He just used his charisma (Wayne is the only rapper who has this) & his smile to convince people to kill.

P.S: What household? My post before showed you that these boys have no father, & single mothers have to put food on the table. When they playing Wayne (&all these wack rappers) over and over they are rewiring their subconscious. READ A BOOK!

sir or ma'am
you seem like a person who knows something or 2
did you know that in order to receive welfare and government assistance there could be no man in the household?
so after a generation or 2 of young boys growing up without fathers or father figures young men just accepted that men weren't supposed to be a part of their life
now
you're going to sit here and tell me that lil fuckin wayne has more influence over the demise of the black household than the government and generations of fatherless familes?
are you retarded?
you tellin me that a girl who says how to love is her favorite song ever can't functionally raise a child and it's ONLY BECAUSE SHE'S A LIL WAYNE FAN?
not because she didn't receive the proper guidance and life lessons from A MOTHER AND FATHER
but simply because lil wayne told her to gon pop her pussy for a real nigga?
how bout you stop readin books, nigga
cuz the books you readin ain't doin shit for you
wait for the movie to come out, it's always better anyway
 
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BackInWhite;3282858 said:
sir or ma'am

you seem like a person who knows something or 2

did you know that in order to receive welfare and government assistance there could be no man in the household?

so after a generation or 2 of young boys growing up without fathers or father figures young men just accepted that men weren't supposed to be a part of their life

now

you're going to sit here and tell me that lil fuckin wayne has more influence over the demise of the black household than the government and generations of fatherless familes?

are you retarded?

you tellin me that a girl who says how to love is her favorite song ever can't functionally raise a child and it's ONLY BECAUSE SHE'S A LIL WAYNE FAN?

not because she didn't receive the proper guidance and life lessons from A MOTHER AND FATHER

but simply because lil wayne told her to gon pop her pussy for a real nigga?

how bout you stop readin books, nigga

cuz the books you readin ain't doin shit for you

wait for the movie to come out, it's always better anyway

SMH, I said in an earlier post that Wayne is part of the problem. I am not so foolish as to place blame on ONE person for a whole group of people. I apologize if I came off rude (thought I'd get that out the way).

I grew up in a welfare household where I had no farther present. I hope you are not such a fool to believe that the government isn't so easy to trick. Immigrants have been faking names, DOB, income, etc. I would know, I've seen it everyday of my life growing up.

You speak of the government...the same government that chose to bail out corporations rather than provide the money to it's people. The same government where poor pays more in tax than rich?

I get where Wayne is coming from, he has no choice but to grind. We all gotta eat, right? But at what expense?

My whole point was that the genre which was created for us, by us (ironic how the government was established the same way huh) is being controlled by those (racists whites) who are against the whole purpose which hip hop was built on. The foundation was for us to have a VOICE in a society where we are considered less than. Now that VOICE is controlled and diluted by the WHITE corporation that runs OUR genre.

The fight for freedom physically might be over, but mentally it hasn't even begun.

I was lucky enough to have an aunt who got a PH.D in psychology. I am in college for it now. The mind is where ALL the power lies, but we rather believe it's in our physical body.

The human nature is to control, control, & CONTROL.

As in influence what I meant was that if a child feels like their situation is hopeless. Like they can relate to Wayne because he's been in their shoes, I believe (the evidence proves), their emotions will create a one-sided bond with this man (or anything negative). Again, I'm not attempting to imply that Wayne is the main problem.

What it comes down to is who are they identifying with when the majority of media covers African Americans in a bad light?
 
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SawedOff-N-SkiMask;3290736 said:
the IC be havin' some funny ass niggaz... i swear lol.

Taylor Swift isn't the best thing in Country music, Rebecca Black isn't the best thing in Pop music, and so on. Why Lil' Wayne runs yall world i don't know, sounds like yall need 2 grow up and get some diversity in your lives more than a die hard Weezy fan do. Yall niggaz still arguin about Wayne and THE BUSINESS SIDE OF HIP HOP (which clearly none of u niggaz understand) is not gonna change anything. Talking shit about a nigga (whoever) is not really gonna put the seeds in the mind of every single human being just becuz u can't get over the nigga.

U fools spend ALL DAY on the internet and tha only people yall can talk about is Nas, Wayne, Jay, Eminem, and Ross (BOSS!). I think it's pretty safe 2 say that none of u niggaz actually know what tha fuck yall are talking about and take Wayne more seriously than u do your own selves.

I get the whole commercial/psychological aspect of it but this isn't 1991 or 1996 and the leaders of the free world are more than just a rapper from New Orleans or a producer from Suffolk Virgina and if u can't get that then you really do need 2 stop fakin and pick up a book or visit your local public schools. I honestly don't think the kids take Weezy as serious as some of yall do (makin 12 threads on the nigga every single day with tha same people in em). Like i said i understand the dissapointment of what's selling verses what isn't but if u niggaz ever learned to click the "next page" button then it wouldn't be so hard to see that there's alot of other people with the same interests as u checking for the same music as u. But figures 4 young adolescent Rap fans (mainly) and Music fans over 40 that's something that's too hard to do.

EVERYBODY KNOWS .... I REPEAT EVERYBODY KNOWS (as in EVERYBODY as in IT DOESNT MATTER YOUR AGE) KNOWS that there's more to Rap music than who's popular and frankly the shit is getting a little disturbing with of you smh. I agree that playing "How To Love" and "She Will" on the radio literally every other song is annoying as fuck but it's also common knowledge that people don't listen to tha radio or watch music television as much as they used to, it's all about smart phonin', worldstar, livemixtapes, and google and 4 you niggaz like hnic1978 you'd figure a person such as yourself would be a little more savvy than that.... word 2 Joe Budden.

and smh @ urdumb hnic1978 for tryna pass off "Tha Carter III" as Wayne's 1st album, that's gotta be the biggest reach i've ever seen somebody do (in real life and on the internet rotfl). stop trying to cut it up like that and like this, shit is annoying. for 50K active viewers and posters the IC sure has some fuckin idiots on here lol smh. with that said go listen to "Tha Carter IV" and Wayne's earlier shit like we all know you're gonna.

- end of threadS

ps: i think it's safe to say that literally the whole world knows better than what's hot and who's popular (no matter the genre). you're completely underminding and underrating everybody you're advocating for and then some.

pps: if it's not a thread about them niggaz it's a thread about the 90's, biggie, 2pac, jcole, or some other cliche' shit. the proof is all here (literally). most of u niggaz don't even really remember the 80's and 90's like that, ya'll are just pretending that you spent as much attention today as u did back then trying to pass yourself off as some Hip Hop conasuerr and intellect. I'm all for elevating and innovating the game myself but even i don't pay these niggaz half the attention yall do and I know where all tha good shit is at... it's not that hard to find.

every thread on here doesn't need 1000 views and replies, the site is already crackin' enuff everyday. the mods/owners don't need 2 keep making threads about Weezy and all of them just to keep the shit alive, it's pathetic so have faith in your site. but u niggaz dont get that though, tha shit just goes over your head like it's bird fart.

lol make sure you pick up a copy of Carter 4
 
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