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Du_Du;5964241 said:sooooo trayvon armed himself with the ground?
okay....
Matt-;5964329 said:Du_Du;5964241 said:sooooo trayvon armed himself with the ground?
okay....
if people have doubt that martin could cause life-threatening injuries on his own, doesn't it make sense to throw out a method in which martin could have caused life-threatening injuries. smashing a head on concrete falls into that category. the ground can qualify as a deadly weapon. that sort of thing has held up in court before.
Du_Du;5964342 said:Matt-;5964329 said:Du_Du;5964241 said:sooooo trayvon armed himself with the ground?
okay....
if people have doubt that martin could cause life-threatening injuries on his own, doesn't it make sense to throw out a method in which martin could have caused life-threatening injuries. smashing a head on concrete falls into that category. the ground can qualify as a deadly weapon. that sort of thing has held up in court before.
that's going under the assumption that trayvonn had an intent to kill zimmerman with the ground once the ground became a factor....however that's weak at best especially considering that zimmerman walked into the altercation with a deadly weapon armed and ready to go from the jump..
before they came together, you can't prove that trayvonn planned on using the ground as a deadly weapon if the opportunity presented itself....but it's already proved that zimmerman planned on using the gun once he had his oppertunity
Easy response, "I did not expect an altercation. I had no intention for violence to occur."; then he would claim that Treyvon started the fight.Du_Du;5964288 said:that's sketchy as shit though...
i mean there's a reason why police will taze a person versus shooting them... you use the force the pertains to the threat.....
by carrying a gun and no other means of defending oneself it's reasonable to say that zimmerman was prepared to use lethal force against any physical threat.....if that can be established..then his approach of trayvon means that he was approaching him in full expectation of using lethal force if the altercation got outta hand at any time....which it did....and he did....
i mean it may be a hypothetical question that would send the defense crazy, but i would ask george zimmerman would he have approached trayvon if he didn't know he had the gun on him.....
even if the question gets thrown out the jury can't unhear the shit
CC_Poncho;5964295 said:I swear if this nigga Zimmerman gets off, I'm throwin somethin at somethin...
Gold_Certificate;5964378 said:Easy response, "I did not expect an altercation. I had no intention for violence to occur."; then he would claim that Treyvon started the fight.Du_Du;5964288 said:that's sketchy as shit though...
i mean there's a reason why police will taze a person versus shooting them... you use the force the pertains to the threat.....
by carrying a gun and no other means of defending oneself it's reasonable to say that zimmerman was prepared to use lethal force against any physical threat.....if that can be established..then his approach of trayvon means that he was approaching him in full expectation of using lethal force if the altercation got outta hand at any time....which it did....and he did....
i mean it may be a hypothetical question that would send the defense crazy, but i would ask george zimmerman would he have approached trayvon if he didn't know he had the gun on him.....
even if the question gets thrown out the jury can't unhear the shit
"I have a concealed carry license, so I carried the gun everywhere I was legally permitted."; then he'd say he approached Treyvon because he looked suspicious.Du_Du;5964385 said:Gold_Certificate;5964378 said:Easy response, "I did not expect an altercation. I had no intention for violence to occur."; then he would claim that Treyvon started the fight.Du_Du;5964288 said:that's sketchy as shit though...
i mean there's a reason why police will taze a person versus shooting them... you use the force the pertains to the threat.....
by carrying a gun and no other means of defending oneself it's reasonable to say that zimmerman was prepared to use lethal force against any physical threat.....if that can be established..then his approach of trayvon means that he was approaching him in full expectation of using lethal force if the altercation got outta hand at any time....which it did....and he did....
i mean it may be a hypothetical question that would send the defense crazy, but i would ask george zimmerman would he have approached trayvon if he didn't know he had the gun on him.....
even if the question gets thrown out the jury can't unhear the shit
so why bring the gun? and why approach when the police were on their way?
Gold_Certificate;5964397 said:"I have a concealed carry license, so I carried the gun everywhere I was legally permitted."; then he'd say he approached Treyvon because he looked suspicious.Du_Du;5964385 said:Gold_Certificate;5964378 said:Easy response, "I did not expect an altercation. I had no intention for violence to occur."; then he would claim that Treyvon started the fight.Du_Du;5964288 said:that's sketchy as shit though...
i mean there's a reason why police will taze a person versus shooting them... you use the force the pertains to the threat.....
by carrying a gun and no other means of defending oneself it's reasonable to say that zimmerman was prepared to use lethal force against any physical threat.....if that can be established..then his approach of trayvon means that he was approaching him in full expectation of using lethal force if the altercation got outta hand at any time....which it did....and he did....
i mean it may be a hypothetical question that would send the defense crazy, but i would ask george zimmerman would he have approached trayvon if he didn't know he had the gun on him.....
even if the question gets thrown out the jury can't unhear the shit
so why bring the gun? and why approach when the police were on their way?
You're over-thinking it bruh.Du_Du;5964383 said:fiat is doing a great job at pointing out the technicalities of florida law..however the defense already established a flaw....
as fiat said, the law says all zimmerman has to prove HE THOUGHT his life was in danger....yet his attorney is trying t o prove that his life WAS in danger.....
and unfortunately for zimmerman the only way for them to prove that zimmerman's life was actually in danger was for him to have been damaged more than he was...
dude didn't even have to go directly to the hospital...they entertained it...but ultimately it was determined he'd be iight....it's not like the shit was life threatening....ya feel me? not life threatening....
so the jury is going to have to believe that trayvon really intended to kill this man......and i don't see anyone buying that...especially considering zimmerman had the gun from the jump...he was fully prepared to shoot if needed be..trayvon just wanted to know why he was being followed..he could have jumped off of zimmerman and ran for all we know...but we don't know cuz zimmerman who was prepared to shoot..shot first......knowing mind you that the police were on their way....because he called them