General Manager - Which Sport Is The Most Challenging To Turn A Sorry Team Into A Winner

[Siqnih Da Trapper]

football... easily...

baseball you can change shyt with a player or two and good pitching...

basketball the "stars" honestly can make themselves.. not saying its easy but look at jimmy butler... pozingis( not saying he is a "star" yet but he has surprised people..) steph curry... ect..

football everything has to "go right" and honestly you might not even know the problem.. and things change so much every year because of inpatients... people will change quarterbacks yet the offensive coordinator sucks.... they will fire the head coach even though he has only been on the job 2 years... they will put a rookie quarterback in the line of fire say he sucks and draft another the next year.. see how that will get you nowhere?

@"Siqnih Da Trapper"

Inbarrising moment

 

[numbaz...80's baby]

It's basketball,

Hawks been around for at least 50 years and they JUST made it past the 2nd round last season, for the 1st time.

 

[R.D.]

Didn't Hawks have racists in the FO

 

[Go figure]

Basketball....if you make it to the playoffs you have to beat the better team 4 times to advance.

Baseball has no salary caps

Football u can advance by luck or if the other team has one random off night bc you only need one win to advance.

Cant say I know where hockey stands on this

 

[bow to royalty]

I can't believe people are really saying football in the parity, salary cap era. Every year there's teams that are successful out of nowhere. Shizlansky was right, Any Given Sunday, look at those Giants squads. Okay yeah its a huge roster and a hard cap, but only highly dysfunctional organizations like the Browns seem to be ALWAYS putting awful teams out there. That says something imho.

Basketball you need The Guy to win a title ofc but its easy to make the playoffs if you actually want to.

Baseball imho is the hardest because of the whole minor league/farm system dynamic. It just moves in slow motion compared to the others. In football and basketball, there's a draft that can change your fortunes pretty much overnight if you get lucky enough. That's IMPOSSIBLE in baseball, when you draft somebody you gotta wait like 4 years before they're even ready to be a Rookie on a major league field. Hell, look at the Phillies. Their old GM made a bunch of flashy trade moves for elite talent, but depleted the farm system in doing so. Now they gotta spend YEARS in the desert while they re-stock the cupboard and hope the new farm talent develops into something. Shit's brutal.

I hear what you're saying, but there's a different way to look at some of those things. Like the salary cap helps level the playing field in football. But in baseball the absence of a salary cap means you can buy championships. And I don't watch baseball, but it doesn't seem like their managers need to do NEARLY as much as a NFL coach does to win. In the NFL you need to collect a lot of player talent, and coaching talent. And it's hard to get the most important position, QB, because they don't switch teams unless their career is basically over.

In baseball, if you have the money, you can get the team. So if you're filthy rich, it's easier in baseball. If your team has less money, it's more difficult. Depends on whose angle you're coming from.

 

[damobb2deep]

football... easily...

baseball you can change shyt with a player or two and good pitching...

basketball the "stars" honestly can make themselves.. not saying its easy but look at jimmy butler... pozingis( not saying he is a "star" yet but he has surprised people..) steph curry... ect..

football everything has to "go right" and honestly you might not even know the problem.. and things change so much every year because of inpatients... people will change quarterbacks yet the offensive coordinator sucks.... they will fire the head coach even though he has only been on the job 2 years... they will put a rookie quarterback in the line of fire say he sucks and draft another the next year.. see how that will get you nowhere?

@"Siqnih Da Trapper"

Inbarrising moment

not really... lol idgaf... this ain't English class...

 

[damobb2deep]

lol lebron took the cavs from a lottery team to a finals team... that's just one dude....

baseball shyt you can buy a good team...

you can be elite In one position and still not win a superbowl... in that case Dan Marino would have a ring...

Moss would have a ring...

T.O would have a ring...

cris carter would have a ring...

Warren Moon would have a ring.. ect...

 

[bow to royalty]

Basketball....if you make it to the playoffs you have to beat the better team 4 times to advance.

Baseball has no salary caps



Football u can advance by luck or if the other team has one random off night bc you only need one win to advance.

Cant say I know where hockey stands on this

The other side of that is in football, you can't have an off game. Every game is game 7, so with a much, much, much smaller margin for error, you could say it's more difficult in football. And with it being a single elimination playoff, that means that being the best team might not even be enough.

It really does come down to there are 2 ways to look at it. The dominant team's POV, or the underdog POV. In the NBA/MLB it's easier for the dominant/wealthier team to win the championship than it is for the dominant NFL team. In the NFL it's easier for the underdog to win the SB, than it is the underdog in the NBA to win a championship.

 

[bow to royalty]

The question is from a GM's perspective, so I'd go with NBA being easier. You have to get less picks right, and you have to get them less often. How long have the Spurs had Duncan, Parker, and Ginobli? You don't get to hold onto a core for 15 years in the NFL. The Broncos and Panthers just made it to the SB. Neither one of them can honestly say with confidence that they'll be back in the SB in 3 years because it's hard as hell to keep a team together, whether people leave due to FA or retirement (coaches or players). So with the need to constantly work to keep your team together, and fill in holes that continuously pop up on your roster...it's NFL.

 

[D. Morgan]

football... easily...

baseball you can change shyt with a player or two and good pitching...

basketball the "stars" honestly can make themselves.. not saying its easy but look at jimmy butler... pozingis( not saying he is a "star" yet but he has surprised people..) steph curry... ect..

football everything has to "go right" and honestly you might not even know the problem.. and things change so much every year because of inpatients... people will change quarterbacks yet the offensive coordinator sucks.... they will fire the head coach even though he has only been on the job 2 years... they will put a rookie quarterback in the line of fire say he sucks and draft another the next year.. see how that will get you nowhere?

You edited this post 2 days later and left the bold? LLS

Start @1:25

 

[numbaz...80's baby]

lol lebron took the cavs from a lottery team to a finals team... that's just one dude....

baseball shyt you can buy a good team...

you can be elite In one position and still not win a superbowl... in that case Dan Marino would have a ring...

Moss would have a ring...

T.O would have a ring...

cris carter would have a ring...

Warren Moon would have a ring.. ect...

A Lebron James type of player comes around about once a decade though. And Lebron had a future hall of famer on his team. Those players you mentioned didn't have 20-30 hall of fame teammates. Lebron is a bad example.

 

[Tommy bilfiger]

baseball shyt you can buy a good team...

No you can't.The top 7 payrolls in baseball last year only 2 made the playoffs

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

"lol lebron took the cavs from a lottery team to a finals team... that's just one dude...."

You're not giving the team aspect enough credit. Lebron had to join Wade and Bosh to get it done and they had to be surrounded by a great cast of players. Now he has Ky, Love, JR, Thompson etc his team is loaded.

Basketball is hard because honestly the talent margin is so wide. A great player can make a huge difference but look at how many great players there have been and who has won. As great as TMac was dude never got out of the first round during his run.

Jordan arguably the GOAT had to have so many things go right to finally win.

Phil had to come along, Scottie had to step up etc.

 

[damobb2deep]

lol lebron took the cavs from a lottery team to a finals team... that's just one dude....

baseball shyt you can buy a good team...

you can be elite In one position and still not win a superbowl... in that case Dan Marino would have a ring...

Moss would have a ring...

T.O would have a ring...

cris carter would have a ring...

Warren Moon would have a ring.. ect...

A Lebron James type of player comes around about once a decade though. And Lebron had a future hall of famer on his team. Those players you mentioned didn't have 20-30 hall of fame teammates. Lebron is a bad example.

who is the future Hall of Famer on the cavs this year? during his 1st run he had shaq but he was way past his prime...

 

[damobb2deep]

"lol lebron took the cavs from a lottery team to a finals team... that's just one dude...."

You're not giving the team aspect enough credit. Lebron had to join Wade and Bosh to get it done and they had to be surrounded by a great cast of players. Now he has Ky, Love, JR, Thompson etc his team is loaded.

Basketball is hard because honestly the talent margin is so wide. A great player can make a huge difference but look at how many great players there have been and who has won. As great as TMac was dude never got out of the first round during his run.

Jordan arguably the GOAT had to have so many things go right to finally win.

Phil had to come along, Scottie had to step up etc.

imagine football though... in football way more has to go right... injuries are way more common... the shyt is damn near guaranteed.. plus you have to factor the best people on your team might not even be on the field at the same time... also it's way more likely a great in basketball will get a ring than a great in football.. their window is way smaller... out side of quarterback (lol and kicker) you are lucky to make 35 and still be in the league... nba you can play till closer to 40.. baseball you can play past 40..

 

[damobb2deep]

baseball shyt you can buy a good team...

No you can't.The top 7 payrolls in baseball last year only 2 made the playoffs

what I mean by that is big name people can be bought in MLB with fewer consiqences... nfl not so much...

 

[the_focused_one]

Hate when niggas say parody instead of parity lol

Nah muthafucka he meant Parody. But he was wrong... Parody is hella easy for small market teams. Look at the Kings... They are so good at Parody sometimes they fuck around and you really think they are an NBA team... sometimes...

 

[its....JOHN B]

It's amazing yall really think it's football, more often than not in the history of the game you need a top tier superstar to even have a chance in the NBA and usually some stars around that star, football is more of a coaches game you don't need a top tier QB to win the superbowl you can win it with a Joe Flacco or most recently Peyton Manning (of 2015-16) as long as you're well coached and have a great defense, you can find all pro type talent in the 4th/5th/6th/7th round and you can find players who can play and be effective without experience right away, NBA it's more of a crap shoot even when you're drafting in the lottery you're drafting a player you hope will turn into a superstar after a few years of experience but more often than not it doesn't happen, in the past 5 years if you didn't have Lebron James on you're not even making it out the east, then you have teams that put superstars together and can barely make the playoffs, then you have teams that are talented and the core has been together for years hoping every year they take it to another level but in reality even making it to a conference final is a long shot, some teams are forever rebuilding, in the NFL a team that nobody saw coming could be a superbowl threat any given year

 

[5 Grand]

Once the playoffs start in the NFL. Anybody can win

The Giants won two super bowls and didn't even make it the playoffs the year before they won it. And they won it as a the last seed.

Any given Sunday

Cosign. They were wildcard teams and won the Super Bowl. And the Patriots were undefeated one of those years.

In football, all you have to do is make the playoffs and you can win a Superbowl. You can be 10-6 or 11-5 and have a realistic chance of winning it all.

In basketball there's too many seven game series' to get lucky.

Baseball there's too many games period (162) to get lucky, only the best teams make the playoffs.

The answer is football, if you have an above average team and a lot of heart you can win a Super Bowl.

Eli has two rings but otherwise doesn't have any stats that suggest he's a GOAT.

 

[its....JOHN B]

Once the playoffs start in the NFL. Anybody can win

The Giants won two super bowls and didn't even make it the playoffs the year before they won it. And they won it as a the last seed.

Any given Sunday

Cosign. They were wildcard teams and won the Super Bowl. And the Patriots were undefeated one of those years.

In football, all you have to do is make the playoffs and you can win a Superbowl. You can be 10-6 or 11-5 and have a realistic chance of winning it all.

In basketball there's too many seven game series' to get lucky.

Baseball there's too many games period (162) to get lucky, only the best teams make the playoffs.

The answer is football, if you have an above average team and a lot of heart you can win a Super Bowl.

Eli has two rings but otherwise doesn't have any stats that suggest he's a GOAT.

You mean it's not football