Gay Marriage or Plural Marriage Which do you Support???

[kingblaze84]

Plutarch, you are indeed very naïve when it comes to the evil trashy book known as the Bible.

Well, if it’s any constellation, the feeling’s mutual. I honestly think that YOU are the one that is very comically naïve and ignorant.

I went to Catholic school for 10 years, and while I enjoyed those years, my respect for the Bible went down to the point where I damn near became an atheist. In fact, I would rather someone be an atheist then support a piece of shit religion like Christianity.

Ok, now your whole “I-am-a-raving,-flaming-crazy-person/Christian-hater!” shtick is starting to make sense. You obviously had a bad experience (I don’t want to even know what it was) with religion when you were younger and now you’re bat-shit crazy. You need to let go of your hate man or try some therapy.

In fact, here are some verses I would like you to explain that come directly from the (man made) Bible......

Yes, the Bible is man-made, but the Christian belief in the Holy Spirit (which I don’t expect you to believe or acknowledge) makes quite a difference, but that’s neither her nor there…

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

I’m sorry bruh, but I’d like to think that I already explained this verse. If there’s anything else you want me to add or if you would like to address my explanation, then please feel free to do so. Sorry, I just don’t feel like repeating myself. I think that’s fair right?

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

I also already explained this one. Check my response to FuriousOne.

LOL ok several things......

I am not an atheist and I don't hate Christians. Most Christians are good people, as are most atheists I have met. The 10 years I spent in Catholic school were very fun and educational but ironically, it opened my eyes to see the extreme evil the Bible supports. I had conversations with fellow classmates and priests as to why the biblical god would even accept the practice of slavery and support the slaughter of innocent childen and it became clear to me that I was just supposed to accept the deep seated evil of the Bible god. I refused and many of my classmates refused as well to accept a god as evil as the Bible god.

The kind of god I believe in would NEVER say slavery is okay nor say beating slaves is okay. The kind of god I believe in is not a genocidal maniac that supports the killing of children all because their parents believed in a different kind of god. I believe in the long run, the universe tries to have a form of justice (maybe I'm naive) but I would never put any kind of trust in a god that supports evil. Those are my two cents and in the end, if you wana worship an evil god, more power to you. I choose to reject it. And again I'm not atheist that seems to be a misconception here. It's the Bible god that can suck my dick.

 

[kingblaze84]

I will go as far to say that I consider all Christians devil worshippers. Anyone who thinks I am wrong has obviously not studied the Bible long enough.

one day you might realize that this kind of stuff just undermines an argument.

The Bible god is nothing less than a Satanic demon to me. I will say this much, to each his own. I prefer to worship a god or gods (who knows how many gods there are) that does not support genocide or slavery of innocents. It is what it is.

“One would go mad if one took the Bible seriously; but to take it seriously one must be already mad.”

― Aleister Crowley, Magick: Book 4, Liber ABA

 

[janklow]

The Bible god is nothing less than a Satanic demon to me. I will say this much, to each his own. I prefer to worship a god or gods (who knows how many gods there are) that does not support genocide or slavery of innocents. It is what it is.

here's the thing: saying "to each his own" and all the rest of the "Bible god = Satanic demon" stuff is contradictory. and all it really does is convince anyone religious to ignore you and a lot of non-religious people to dismiss any argument as just some kid's raging noise. nosign it if you like now, but i'll say it again: one day you might realize that this kind of stuff just undermines an argument.

 

[kingblaze84]

The Bible god is nothing less than a Satanic demon to me. I will say this much, to each his own. I prefer to worship a god or gods (who knows how many gods there are) that does not support genocide or slavery of innocents. It is what it is.

here's the thing: saying "to each his own" and all the rest of the "Bible god = Satanic demon" stuff is contradictory. and all it really does is convince anyone religious to ignore you and a lot of non-religious people to dismiss any argument as just some kid's raging noise. nosign it if you like now, but i'll say it again: one day you might realize that this kind of stuff just undermines an argument.

I'm not raging at anything at all lol. I simply have made observations about the evil I and many others see in the Bible. I'm not worried about my argument being undermined at all, the proof is in the Bible itself.

 

[Jabu_Rule]

I would think that it is quite devilish to turn a women into a pillar of salt for looking back at a city that was devastated because god was angry with them because of their sin. I thought everybody was born with sin already, so what made them special. God was going to destroy everything (best argument, if you can't beat them, kill them) until his son volunteered to get bodied? Yet again the old testament can't be thrown aside because, that is the same god that people worship in the new testament; only, he decided not to kill everyone. I mean, it seems like God is passing all sorts of judgment and then hands out passes to go past go.. And then you turn around and let a dude who you warned to get out bone his daughters. How can you tell me that that is cool, but a city gets destroyed for being assholes. . Am i not supposed to look back and learn from the past? Is that the lesson from the story of the women turning int a pillar of salt?

Merry xmas.. Happy Winter Solstice, which we should've been celebrated on the 21st if it wasn't for those people who adopted a doomsday date of yet another religion.

 

[janklow]

I'm not raging at anything at all lol. I simply have made observations about the evil I and many others see in the Bible. I'm not worried about my argument being undermined at all, the proof is in the Bible itself.

now, see how much more reasonable THAT statement sounds? hmmm.

And then you turn around and let a dude who you warned to get out bone his daughters.

correction: get raped while drunk by his daughters. still creepy, i figure.

 

[Plutarch]

LOL ok several things......

I am not an atheist

My bad. I misread this "I went to Catholic school for 10 years, and while I enjoyed those years, my respect for the Bible went down to the point where I damn near became an atheist."

and I don't hate Christians.

Um, ok. I'm not sure that I believe this, but you DO seem to hate Christianity, or at least the Christian Bible which is the basis of Christainity whose religion belongs to Christians...

Most Christians are good people, as are most atheists I have met.

Meh, speak for yourself. I meet the acquaintances of plenty of faggot Christians and atheists alike on a regular basis.

The 10 years I spent in Catholic school were very fun and educational but ironically, it opened my eyes to see the extreme evil the Bible supports. I had conversations with fellow classmates and priests as to why the biblical god would even accept the practice of slavery and support the slaughter of innocent childen and it became clear to me that I was just supposed to accept the deep seated evil of the Bible god. I refused and many of my classmates refused as well to accept a god as evil as the Bible god.

Meh, fair enough. I still disagree and think that you're misunderstanding a lot of the Bible, but we could debate this for days (even though you never really responded to my counter-arguments) so once again, meh.

The kind of god I believe in would NEVER say slavery is okay nor say beating slaves is okay. The kind of god I believe in is not a genocidal maniac that supports the killing of children all because their parents believed in a different kind of god. I believe in the long run, the universe tries to have a form of justice (maybe I'm naive) but I would never put any kind of trust in a god that supports evil.

More statements from a misunderstanding of the Bible. But I will add two things.

1. I've already said this a million times, but just because the Bible ACKNOWLEDGES evil, doesn't mean that the Bible SUPPORTS evil. The fact that the Bible acknowleges evil makes it so much more credibile to me simply because evil exists. I think that people need to stop believeing in this whole idea that Christianity preaches that the world is perfect and happy. The Bible clearly says that this world is fallen and that this world is full of suffering and evil. But the world is this way NOT because of God. The world is this way because of US. But apparently we don't want to take responsibility and hold ourselves accountable, and this is just a symptom of our broken nature.

2. I find it odd that people have the audacity to even judge God. And they judge God by human standards as if God is human and as if God and his nature can be understood by humankind. If I'm not mistaken, all of this can be summed up as hubris/pride. Ironically enough, this is the same sin that brought about Satan and Adam and Eve's downfall. It's never a good things when humans get so proud that they think that they're more important than God. You talk about the kind of God that YOU want, but that's irrelevant because you don't determine who God is. You can't. IMO.

Those are my two cents and in the end, if you wana worship an evil god, more power to you. I choose to reject it. And again I'm not atheist that seems to be a misconception here. It's the Bible god that can suck my dick.

Ok heh. Fair enough? Though the whole "Bible God" vs "Christain God" thing is a bit confusing.

 

[Soloman_The_Wise]

@janklow ca we get a thead split of the bible debate fam?

 

[janklow]

@janklow ca we get a thead split of the bible debate fam?

yeah, let me figure where it would be good to clip them out, since some of the Bible talk is thread-related...

 

[kAjUn]

I support neither, seeing how it goes against my morals. With that being said I won't cry about it if it becomes legal. At the end of the day it's their lives not mine. We all have free will to do as we want within the confines of the law.