Game of Thrones - Season 4 (Book Readers please use spoilers & disclaimers or be BANNED)

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desertrain10;7056501 said:
Yea but Arryn was obviously plotting against the lanisters and was close to telling Robert about the incest

Had arryn been able to do so without interruption, robert would've killed/attempted to kill the lanister twins and their children...tywin would have come to their defense and that would have meant war

Ned would have been called by Robert to help in the war effort

and considering at the time the lanisters were still the richest house in the kingdom they could've very well unseated king robert ...if ned had survived the war, he would've still faced persecution for his loyalty to robert

Lil finger just seen where the realm was headed and decided that it would be better for his self interest to keep cersei and her children alive and in kingslanding alil longe

true. but if all ned had to do was fight he woulda been good. that's his duty as robert's man & lord of winterfell to help him out. but saying the lannisters did it forced his hand & got him to feel obligated to go to king's landing to protect robert....taking him allllll outa his element. he & cat got thrown into the politics of "the game" & were unmatched.
 
^^^^Pretty much. Ned was out of his depth with all the cloak and dagger shit happening in Kings Landing. I don't want to say shit was necessarily black and white in Winterfell, but it was a hell of lot easier to grasp what the hell was going on.
 
Sion;7056591 said:
desertrain10;7056501 said:
atribecalledgabi;7055439 said:
BARON_$AMEDI;7054393 said:
@atribecalledgabi

Tywin and his fucked up family are the reason why all this shit happened. Ned getting his head chopped off started everything. Tywin set the whole wedding massacre up remember? Lol at everyone blaming frey while bolton and tywin chilling. Mack lil finger was just obsessed with cat and the iron throne. He was just pimping out her sister because he couldn't have her. And he was making power moves at the same damn time! He was only loyal to the starks because of cat but still, he was loyal.....And liza crazy ass aint from the north so FUCK HER!!!

Hell na mayne.

Littlefinger getting lysa to kill jon arryn and passing it off to ned and cat like it was the lannisters got everything poppin.

Had jon arryn been alive king robert da gawd woulda had no reason to ask ned to be the new hand...jamie and cersei would've enjoyed fuckin in peace. Everybody woulda minded they own business if it wasn't for littlefinger.

And had robb kept his promise and went through with marrying one of frey's daughters he probly wouldn't have offed the rest of the known starks. The red wedding was beyond fucked up, but avoidable.

Yea but Arryn was obviously plotting against the lanisters and was close to telling Robert about the incest

Had arryn been able to do so without interruption, robert would've killed/attempted to kill the lanister twins and their children...tywin would have come to their defense and that would have meant war

Ned would have been called by Robert to help in the war effort

and considering at the time the lanisters were still the richest house in the kingdom they could've very well unseated king robert ...if ned had survived the war, he would've still faced persecution for his loyalty to robert

Lil finger just seen where the realm was headed and decided that it would be better for his self interest to keep cersei and her children alive and in kingslanding alil longer

My post is mad off topic LOLOL but I digress...

You're assuming the Lannisters would have won that war, let's not forget Robb Stark - a mere boy beat the Lannisters in every battle. They had to snake him at a wedding under false guest right just to stop him. Now imagine with King Robert in power and for a crime like that nobody would have come to the Lannister's help. It would have been Ned AND Robb Stark working together, House Tully, House Arryn, House Martell, Stannis Baratheon, The Kardstarks, The Boltons and the Tyrells all against Tywin and company. It would have been Cersei and Jaime's heads rolling into a basket while Joffrey, Tommen and Myrcella woulda prolly been sent to the Wall, Tyrion as a hostage prolly playing jest to Robin Arryn & Tywin hiding out in Casterly Rock as a disgraced Lord for the rest of his life. Baelish woulda gone to the winning team and sided with the Starks.

true

i think tywin could have convinced a couple of the houses to fight with him with promises of land especially the north, riverrun, etc

but your more than likely right lol

 
The Lannisters wouldn't have beaten King Robert if they went to war. They would have had basically the whole realm to deal with because everyone loved Robert. That's the whole reason he married Cersei. He had the love of the people, but he didn't have the resources to back a good king. Tywin did, so they joined the houses even though Robert didn't really care for the Lannisters. If it came down to the crown going to war with the Lannisters, all the major houses would have sided with the crown.
 
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Darius;7053151 said:
Is Oberyn supposed to be that much older that Tyrion? He actually looks younger to me, but the way he vividly retold that story of hearing about Tyrion looking like:

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It sounds like he's at least 10 years older than him

Tyrion is the youngest, I think he's meant to be in his early 30s. Cersei and Jamie are both 40, Tywin and Joffrey both mentioned his age this season. So I imagine Cersei/Jamie were at least 8-10 when Tyrion was born. I assume Oberyn is of a similar age, maybe a little older since he has more kids. Pedro Pascal is 39 in real life, Lena Heady is 40 and Coster-Waldau is 43 but is meant to be her twin. I think it is safe to assume the older actors were cast to fit their age and the younger characters aged up like Jon Snow and Daenerys. But they are going mostly for dead on casting so I think it is fair to assume Oberyn is 39 in the story too at least.

your ages are all fucked up.

Cersi is supposed to be 23, start there brah. Sansa is supposed to be 15 but they made her 17 for the show, but this medevil times...niggas dead by 40

The math doesn't make sense.

That would mean that Cersei had Joffrey when she was 8 years old.....assuming that him and Sansa are the same age.

 
The ICessos Master of Coin has spoken

Who yall (Yall=Show Watchers aka House Box Office of Cable and House Browser of Internet) think Sansa was talkin to was she was "supposedly" snitchin on Goldie Littlefinger
 
almighty breeze;7056940 said:
The ICessos Master of Coin has spoken

Who yall (Yall=Show Watchers aka House Box Office of Cable and House Browser of Internet) think Sansa was talkin to was she was "supposedly" snitchin on Goldie Littlefinger

pretty sure it was all the important people at the Eyrie. probably having some sort of trial for LF. poor Robbyn about to starve to death
 
bruhs and brehs we only 2 days into the the two week break and we already talking about what ages people are in the show vs. in the book vs. in real life. I can't imagine what conversations will be had between now and episode 8, I just know that Sunday Night will be Dark....and full of terrors cause i will be fiend-in for my fix. thankfully i serve the lord of light and teamLOL. Thoros, i see you; Gendry, we will see you...teamBOB/LOL
 
I don't think Dany gave up the pussy to matey tho...she prolly had him prancing about like a faggot swinging his dick nh...but she aint give up the puss...
 
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