Father Of SEAL Killed In Yemen To Trump: 'Don’t Hide Behind My Son’s Death'…

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Truth about what nigga didn't give a fuck about your kid didn't care about the mission would of only been something NHE would of mentioned if it was successful you son died for no reason because the president and his cabinet are fuckbois
 
anybody questioning the success of the raid was doing "a disservice to the life of Chief Ryan Owens

The logic that you cant question a mission bc somebody died is the hight of hypocrisy
 
2stepz_ahead;c-9662061 said:
but them dudes wanted trumo because Obama was scaling back troops and making shit dangerous for them

From what I seen most people wanted Trump to actually continue scaling back which is the whole point of his "America First" Isolationist policy.

Copper;c-9662068 said:
anybody questioning the success of the raid was doing "a disservice to the life of Chief Ryan Owens

The logic that you cant question a mission bc somebody died is the hight of hypocrisy

I don't exactly know how the Navy does nor could I speak on how the SF community does (umberella term for all Special Forces and Special Operation units) but I know at least for my Army infantry unit generally a mission is rated as pass or fail.

You're not doing a disservice to his life by speaking the truth. If the objectives haven't been met and you suffer a casualty then unfortunately that mission was a fail. It's up to whoever your leader is to face reality of that failure and assess why exactly things didn't go by the numbers.
 
The_Jackal;c-9662108 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9662061 said:
but them dudes wanted trumo because Obama was scaling back troops and making shit dangerous for them

From what I seen most people wanted Trump to actually continue scaling back which is the whole point of his "America First" Isolationist policy.

Copper;c-9662068 said:
anybody questioning the success of the raid was doing "a disservice to the life of Chief Ryan Owens

The logic that you cant question a mission bc somebody died is the hight of hypocrisy

I don't exactly know how the Navy does nor could I speak on how the SF community does (umberella term for all Special Forces and Special Operation units) but I know at least for my Army infantry unit generally a mission is rated as pass or fail.

You're not doing a disservice to his life by speaking the truth. If the objectives haven't been met and you suffer a casualty then unfortunately that mission was a fail. It's up to whoever your leader is to face reality of that failure and assess why exactly things didn't go by the numbers.

wait wait wait...

I talked to a guy who was sniping in Afghanistan... that's what he said....

but

I thought people were mad at obama for pulling troops out
 
2stepz_ahead;c-9662145 said:
The_Jackal;c-9662108 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9662061 said:
but them dudes wanted trumo because Obama was scaling back troops and making shit dangerous for them

From what I seen most people wanted Trump to actually continue scaling back which is the whole point of his "America First" Isolationist policy.

Copper;c-9662068 said:
anybody questioning the success of the raid was doing "a disservice to the life of Chief Ryan Owens

The logic that you cant question a mission bc somebody died is the hight of hypocrisy

I don't exactly know how the Navy does nor could I speak on how the SF community does (umberella term for all Special Forces and Special Operation units) but I know at least for my Army infantry unit generally a mission is rated as pass or fail.

You're not doing a disservice to his life by speaking the truth. If the objectives haven't been met and you suffer a casualty then unfortunately that mission was a fail. It's up to whoever your leader is to face reality of that failure and assess why exactly things didn't go by the numbers.

wait wait wait...

I talked to a guy who was sniping in Afghanistan... that's what he said....

but

I thought people were mad at obama for pulling troops out


More people were mad and still am (including me) at the 5 billion he sent to Syria to train and fiance "Moderate Rebels" who ended up switching over to Isis.

Another thing you have to remember and alot of people don't know is that he drawdown of troops from the ME in 2011 was actually put in place by Bush.

And lasr but not least very idea of America First is putting the interest of America before the rest of the world. As far as a war in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan there is no material gain (though influence in and of itself especially against Russia aggression is valuable.)

 
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The_Jackal;c-9662175 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9662145 said:
The_Jackal;c-9662108 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9662061 said:
but them dudes wanted trumo because Obama was scaling back troops and making shit dangerous for them

From what I seen most people wanted Trump to actually continue scaling back which is the whole point of his "America First" Isolationist policy.

Copper;c-9662068 said:
anybody questioning the success of the raid was doing "a disservice to the life of Chief Ryan Owens

The logic that you cant question a mission bc somebody died is the hight of hypocrisy

I don't exactly know how the Navy does nor could I speak on how the SF community does (umberella term for all Special Forces and Special Operation units) but I know at least for my Army infantry unit generally a mission is rated as pass or fail.

You're not doing a disservice to his life by speaking the truth. If the objectives haven't been met and you suffer a casualty then unfortunately that mission was a fail. It's up to whoever your leader is to face reality of that failure and assess why exactly things didn't go by the numbers.

wait wait wait...

I talked to a guy who was sniping in Afghanistan... that's what he said....

but

I thought people were mad at obama for pulling troops out


More people were mad and still am (including me) at the 5 billion he sent to Syria to train and fiance "Moderate Rebels" who ended up switching over to Isis.



Another thing you have to remember and alot of people don't know is that he drawdown of troops from the ME in 2011 was actually put in place by Bush.

And lasr but not least very idea of America First is putting the interest of America before the rest of the world. As far as a war in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan there is no material gain (though influence in and of itself especially against Russia aggression is valuable.)



I need reference and proof this happened.
 
The_Jackal;c-9662175 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9662145 said:
The_Jackal;c-9662108 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9662061 said:
but them dudes wanted trumo because Obama was scaling back troops and making shit dangerous for them

From what I seen most people wanted Trump to actually continue scaling back which is the whole point of his "America First" Isolationist policy.

Copper;c-9662068 said:
anybody questioning the success of the raid was doing "a disservice to the life of Chief Ryan Owens

The logic that you cant question a mission bc somebody died is the hight of hypocrisy

I don't exactly know how the Navy does nor could I speak on how the SF community does (umberella term for all Special Forces and Special Operation units) but I know at least for my Army infantry unit generally a mission is rated as pass or fail.

You're not doing a disservice to his life by speaking the truth. If the objectives haven't been met and you suffer a casualty then unfortunately that mission was a fail. It's up to whoever your leader is to face reality of that failure and assess why exactly things didn't go by the numbers.

wait wait wait...

I talked to a guy who was sniping in Afghanistan... that's what he said....

but

I thought people were mad at obama for pulling troops out


More people were mad and still am (including me) at the 5 billion he sent to Syria to train and fiance "Moderate Rebels" who ended up switching over to Isis.

Another thing you have to remember and alot of people don't know is that he drawdown of troops from the ME in 2011 was actually put in place by Bush.

And lasr but not least very idea of America First is putting the interest of America before the rest of the world. As far as a war in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan there is no material gain (though influence in and of itself especially against Russia aggression is valuable.)



I gotta correct you on Afghanistan.

there are trillions of dollars of rare earth there.

the other places are not about material or financial gain....it's about militaristic superiority.

Afghanistan

Iraq

Syria

Pakistan an eventually turkey....

what's in the middle?
 
Cabana_Da_Don;c-9662229 said:
The_Jackal;c-9662175 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9662145 said:
The_Jackal;c-9662108 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9662061 said:
but them dudes wanted trumo because Obama was scaling back troops and making shit dangerous for them

From what I seen most people wanted Trump to actually continue scaling back which is the whole point of his "America First" Isolationist policy.

Copper;c-9662068 said:
anybody questioning the success of the raid was doing "a disservice to the life of Chief Ryan Owens

The logic that you cant question a mission bc somebody died is the hight of hypocrisy

I don't exactly know how the Navy does nor could I speak on how the SF community does (umberella term for all Special Forces and Special Operation units) but I know at least for my Army infantry unit generally a mission is rated as pass or fail.

You're not doing a disservice to his life by speaking the truth. If the objectives haven't been met and you suffer a casualty then unfortunately that mission was a fail. It's up to whoever your leader is to face reality of that failure and assess why exactly things didn't go by the numbers.

wait wait wait...

I talked to a guy who was sniping in Afghanistan... that's what he said....

but

I thought people were mad at obama for pulling troops out


More people were mad and still am (including me) at the 5 billion he sent to Syria to train and fiance "Moderate Rebels" who ended up switching over to Isis.



Another thing you have to remember and alot of people don't know is that he drawdown of troops from the ME in 2011 was actually put in place by Bush.

And lasr but not least very idea of America First is putting the interest of America before the rest of the world. As far as a war in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan there is no material gain (though influence in and of itself especially against Russia aggression is valuable.)



I need reference and proof this happened.


www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com

Officials said the provision of equipment to the groups would be limited at first, but could grow depending on a rebel group’s performance. Failure on the battlefield or the loss of weapons that could fall into the hands of extremists could result in a cutoff of military equipment, officials said. The American military has confirmed that some rebel groups surrendered their weapons when confronted by extremists, and it has acknowledged that accounting for American-supplied arms across the battlefield proved almost impossible in the past.
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33997408

The goal was to train about 15,000 rebels in Jordan and other countries so they could return to Syria and fight. However, US defence officials admitted last month that only four or five of the recruits in the programme had actually returned to the battle.

Speaking recently at the White House, Obama looked frustrated as he described "failures" in the US train-and-equip programme.


But besides the fact that he clearly did support the policy at the time, it’s ridiculous for another reason: years before Congress approved the $500m program to arm the Syrian rebels, the CIA had been running its own separate Syrian rebel-arming program since at least 2012. It was reported prominently by the New York Times at the time and approved by the president.

In fact, just before Congress voted, Senator Tom Udall told Secretary of State John Kerry, who was testifying in front of the foreign relations committee, “Everybody’s well aware there’s been a covert operation, operating in the region to train forces, moderate forces, to go into Syria and to be out there, that we’ve been doing this the last two years.” In true Orwellian fashion, Kerry responded at the time: “I hate to do this. But I can’t confirm or deny whatever that’s been written about and I can’t really go into any kind of possible program.”

This has been going on for years and needs to stop. I'm on mobile so some of my sources fucking up but when I get on my laptop I'll show you more and it's not something that is hidden away. There are declassified reports from the CIA that speaks on this in length.
 
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2stepz_ahead;c-9662257 said:
The_Jackal;c-9662175 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9662145 said:
The_Jackal;c-9662108 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9662061 said:
but them dudes wanted trumo because Obama was scaling back troops and making shit dangerous for them

From what I seen most people wanted Trump to actually continue scaling back which is the whole point of his "America First" Isolationist policy.

Copper;c-9662068 said:
anybody questioning the success of the raid was doing "a disservice to the life of Chief Ryan Owens

The logic that you cant question a mission bc somebody died is the hight of hypocrisy

I don't exactly know how the Navy does nor could I speak on how the SF community does (umberella term for all Special Forces and Special Operation units) but I know at least for my Army infantry unit generally a mission is rated as pass or fail.

You're not doing a disservice to his life by speaking the truth. If the objectives haven't been met and you suffer a casualty then unfortunately that mission was a fail. It's up to whoever your leader is to face reality of that failure and assess why exactly things didn't go by the numbers.

wait wait wait...

I talked to a guy who was sniping in Afghanistan... that's what he said....

but

I thought people were mad at obama for pulling troops out


More people were mad and still am (including me) at the 5 billion he sent to Syria to train and fiance "Moderate Rebels" who ended up switching over to Isis.

Another thing you have to remember and alot of people don't know is that he drawdown of troops from the ME in 2011 was actually put in place by Bush.

And lasr but not least very idea of America First is putting the interest of America before the rest of the world. As far as a war in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan there is no material gain (though influence in and of itself especially against Russia aggression is valuable.)



I gotta correct you on Afghanistan.

there are trillions of dollars of rare earth there.

the other places are not about material or financial gain....it's about militaristic superiority.

Afghanistan

Iraq

Syria

Pakistan an eventually turkey....

what's in the middle?


You understand thathe you can't just TAKE those resources though regardless the pounder Trump has been doing. He can't simply seize gas fields that belong to a sovereign country or any other materials on front of the international community and the community at home. He already has to many eyes on him and Democrats ( and I'm sure some republicans) are just waiting for any reason to press that impeach button.

As far as it being about military superiority I don't exactly get what you are trying to convey. We don't need to go to war in Afghanistan to prove we have a stronger military.
 
The_Jackal;c-9662281 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9662257 said:
The_Jackal;c-9662175 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9662145 said:
The_Jackal;c-9662108 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9662061 said:
but them dudes wanted trumo because Obama was scaling back troops and making shit dangerous for them

From what I seen most people wanted Trump to actually continue scaling back which is the whole point of his "America First" Isolationist policy.

Copper;c-9662068 said:
anybody questioning the success of the raid was doing "a disservice to the life of Chief Ryan Owens

The logic that you cant question a mission bc somebody died is the hight of hypocrisy

I don't exactly know how the Navy does nor could I speak on how the SF community does (umberella term for all Special Forces and Special Operation units) but I know at least for my Army infantry unit generally a mission is rated as pass or fail.

You're not doing a disservice to his life by speaking the truth. If the objectives haven't been met and you suffer a casualty then unfortunately that mission was a fail. It's up to whoever your leader is to face reality of that failure and assess why exactly things didn't go by the numbers.

wait wait wait...

I talked to a guy who was sniping in Afghanistan... that's what he said....

but

I thought people were mad at obama for pulling troops out


More people were mad and still am (including me) at the 5 billion he sent to Syria to train and fiance "Moderate Rebels" who ended up switching over to Isis.

Another thing you have to remember and alot of people don't know is that he drawdown of troops from the ME in 2011 was actually put in place by Bush.

And lasr but not least very idea of America First is putting the interest of America before the rest of the world. As far as a war in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan there is no material gain (though influence in and of itself especially against Russia aggression is valuable.)



I gotta correct you on Afghanistan.

there are trillions of dollars of rare earth there.

the other places are not about material or financial gain....it's about militaristic superiority.

Afghanistan

Iraq

Syria

Pakistan an eventually turkey....

what's in the middle?


You understand thathe you can't just TAKE those resources though regardless the pounder Trump has been doing. He can't simply seize gas fields that belong to a sovereign country or any other materials on front of the international community and the community at home. He already has to many eyes on him and Democrats ( and I'm sure some republicans) are just waiting for any reason to press that impeach button.

As far as it being about military superiority I don't exactly get what you are trying to convey. We don't need to go to war in Afghanistan to prove we have a stronger military.


no...in the middle is Iran.

we are encircling iran...but Afghanistan ready has "contractors" on the ground.

this was during bush
 
2stepz_ahead;c-9662308 said:
The_Jackal;c-9662281 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9662257 said:
The_Jackal;c-9662175 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9662145 said:
The_Jackal;c-9662108 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9662061 said:
but them dudes wanted trumo because Obama was scaling back troops and making shit dangerous for them

From what I seen most people wanted Trump to actually continue scaling back which is the whole point of his "America First" Isolationist policy.

Copper;c-9662068 said:
anybody questioning the success of the raid was doing "a disservice to the life of Chief Ryan Owens

The logic that you cant question a mission bc somebody died is the hight of hypocrisy

I don't exactly know how the Navy does nor could I speak on how the SF community does (umberella term for all Special Forces and Special Operation units) but I know at least for my Army infantry unit generally a mission is rated as pass or fail.

You're not doing a disservice to his life by speaking the truth. If the objectives haven't been met and you suffer a casualty then unfortunately that mission was a fail. It's up to whoever your leader is to face reality of that failure and assess why exactly things didn't go by the numbers.

wait wait wait...

I talked to a guy who was sniping in Afghanistan... that's what he said....

but

I thought people were mad at obama for pulling troops out


More people were mad and still am (including me) at the 5 billion he sent to Syria to train and fiance "Moderate Rebels" who ended up switching over to Isis.

Another thing you have to remember and alot of people don't know is that he drawdown of troops from the ME in 2011 was actually put in place by Bush.

And lasr but not least very idea of America First is putting the interest of America before the rest of the world. As far as a war in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan there is no material gain (though influence in and of itself especially against Russia aggression is valuable.)



I gotta correct you on Afghanistan.

there are trillions of dollars of rare earth there.

the other places are not about material or financial gain....it's about militaristic superiority.

Afghanistan

Iraq

Syria

Pakistan an eventually turkey....

what's in the middle?


You understand thathe you can't just TAKE those resources though regardless the pounder Trump has been doing. He can't simply seize gas fields that belong to a sovereign country or any other materials on front of the international community and the community at home. He already has to many eyes on him and Democrats ( and I'm sure some republicans) are just waiting for any reason to press that impeach button.

As far as it being about military superiority I don't exactly get what you are trying to convey. We don't need to go to war in Afghanistan to prove we have a stronger military.


no...in the middle is Iran.

we are encircling iran...but Afghanistan ready has "contractors" on the ground.

this was during bush


We been encircled Iran. Iran been encircled since 1981 Iran-Iraq war so I don't get exactly what you are getting at. If anything US especially in Obama era has been far more lenient and relaxed towards Iran.

Afghanistan still has contractors as well as US troops still on the ground. That's nothing new
 
Copper;c-9662068 said:
anybody questioning the success of the raid was doing "a disservice to the life of Chief Ryan Owens

The logic that you cant question a mission bc somebody died is the hight of hypocrisy

That is the main reason why people are questioning it.
 
They said it was a kill mission that didn't result in their target being killed but valuable information was sized.

So going in for what you planned and not meeting that objective is a failure
 
rapmusic;c-9662549 said:
Trump will just say fake news and keep it moving

Trump is an idiot, a narcissist, a con man, a game show host and a overall fuck boy douche bag. But I gotta call a spade a spade, this shit is some g shit. This nigga literally doesn't give a shit bout anyone or anything. Tho he is thin skinned af. Nothing sticks to him. He will jus shrug it off, call it fake news n keep it moving. smh.

Nothin lasts forever tho.
 
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The entire mission was a failure from the start

1. They didn’t do their homework about what they were getting into

2. Civilians including an 8 yr old child were killed

3. One of yhe US members apart of said raid was KIA

4. They can say whatever they want in terms of getting valuable Intel and Information, but from just about every news outlet it's said that tell got little to no Intel at all.
 

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