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2stepz_ahead;c-9662061 said:but them dudes wanted trumo because Obama was scaling back troops and making shit dangerous for them
Copper;c-9662068 said:anybody questioning the success of the raid was doing "a disservice to the life of Chief Ryan Owens
The logic that you cant question a mission bc somebody died is the hight of hypocrisy
The_Jackal;c-9662108 said:2stepz_ahead;c-9662061 said:but them dudes wanted trumo because Obama was scaling back troops and making shit dangerous for them
From what I seen most people wanted Trump to actually continue scaling back which is the whole point of his "America First" Isolationist policy.
Copper;c-9662068 said:anybody questioning the success of the raid was doing "a disservice to the life of Chief Ryan Owens
The logic that you cant question a mission bc somebody died is the hight of hypocrisy
I don't exactly know how the Navy does nor could I speak on how the SF community does (umberella term for all Special Forces and Special Operation units) but I know at least for my Army infantry unit generally a mission is rated as pass or fail.
You're not doing a disservice to his life by speaking the truth. If the objectives haven't been met and you suffer a casualty then unfortunately that mission was a fail. It's up to whoever your leader is to face reality of that failure and assess why exactly things didn't go by the numbers.
2stepz_ahead;c-9662145 said:The_Jackal;c-9662108 said:2stepz_ahead;c-9662061 said:but them dudes wanted trumo because Obama was scaling back troops and making shit dangerous for them
From what I seen most people wanted Trump to actually continue scaling back which is the whole point of his "America First" Isolationist policy.
Copper;c-9662068 said:anybody questioning the success of the raid was doing "a disservice to the life of Chief Ryan Owens
The logic that you cant question a mission bc somebody died is the hight of hypocrisy
I don't exactly know how the Navy does nor could I speak on how the SF community does (umberella term for all Special Forces and Special Operation units) but I know at least for my Army infantry unit generally a mission is rated as pass or fail.
You're not doing a disservice to his life by speaking the truth. If the objectives haven't been met and you suffer a casualty then unfortunately that mission was a fail. It's up to whoever your leader is to face reality of that failure and assess why exactly things didn't go by the numbers.
wait wait wait...
I talked to a guy who was sniping in Afghanistan... that's what he said....
but
I thought people were mad at obama for pulling troops out
The_Jackal;c-9662175 said:2stepz_ahead;c-9662145 said:The_Jackal;c-9662108 said:2stepz_ahead;c-9662061 said:but them dudes wanted trumo because Obama was scaling back troops and making shit dangerous for them
From what I seen most people wanted Trump to actually continue scaling back which is the whole point of his "America First" Isolationist policy.
Copper;c-9662068 said:anybody questioning the success of the raid was doing "a disservice to the life of Chief Ryan Owens
The logic that you cant question a mission bc somebody died is the hight of hypocrisy
I don't exactly know how the Navy does nor could I speak on how the SF community does (umberella term for all Special Forces and Special Operation units) but I know at least for my Army infantry unit generally a mission is rated as pass or fail.
You're not doing a disservice to his life by speaking the truth. If the objectives haven't been met and you suffer a casualty then unfortunately that mission was a fail. It's up to whoever your leader is to face reality of that failure and assess why exactly things didn't go by the numbers.
wait wait wait...
I talked to a guy who was sniping in Afghanistan... that's what he said....
but
I thought people were mad at obama for pulling troops out
More people were mad and still am (including me) at the 5 billion he sent to Syria to train and fiance "Moderate Rebels" who ended up switching over to Isis.
Another thing you have to remember and alot of people don't know is that he drawdown of troops from the ME in 2011 was actually put in place by Bush.
And lasr but not least very idea of America First is putting the interest of America before the rest of the world. As far as a war in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan there is no material gain (though influence in and of itself especially against Russia aggression is valuable.)
The_Jackal;c-9662175 said:2stepz_ahead;c-9662145 said:The_Jackal;c-9662108 said:2stepz_ahead;c-9662061 said:but them dudes wanted trumo because Obama was scaling back troops and making shit dangerous for them
From what I seen most people wanted Trump to actually continue scaling back which is the whole point of his "America First" Isolationist policy.
Copper;c-9662068 said:anybody questioning the success of the raid was doing "a disservice to the life of Chief Ryan Owens
The logic that you cant question a mission bc somebody died is the hight of hypocrisy
I don't exactly know how the Navy does nor could I speak on how the SF community does (umberella term for all Special Forces and Special Operation units) but I know at least for my Army infantry unit generally a mission is rated as pass or fail.
You're not doing a disservice to his life by speaking the truth. If the objectives haven't been met and you suffer a casualty then unfortunately that mission was a fail. It's up to whoever your leader is to face reality of that failure and assess why exactly things didn't go by the numbers.
wait wait wait...
I talked to a guy who was sniping in Afghanistan... that's what he said....
but
I thought people were mad at obama for pulling troops out
More people were mad and still am (including me) at the 5 billion he sent to Syria to train and fiance "Moderate Rebels" who ended up switching over to Isis.
Another thing you have to remember and alot of people don't know is that he drawdown of troops from the ME in 2011 was actually put in place by Bush.
And lasr but not least very idea of America First is putting the interest of America before the rest of the world. As far as a war in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan there is no material gain (though influence in and of itself especially against Russia aggression is valuable.)
Cabana_Da_Don;c-9662229 said:The_Jackal;c-9662175 said:2stepz_ahead;c-9662145 said:The_Jackal;c-9662108 said:2stepz_ahead;c-9662061 said:but them dudes wanted trumo because Obama was scaling back troops and making shit dangerous for them
From what I seen most people wanted Trump to actually continue scaling back which is the whole point of his "America First" Isolationist policy.
Copper;c-9662068 said:anybody questioning the success of the raid was doing "a disservice to the life of Chief Ryan Owens
The logic that you cant question a mission bc somebody died is the hight of hypocrisy
I don't exactly know how the Navy does nor could I speak on how the SF community does (umberella term for all Special Forces and Special Operation units) but I know at least for my Army infantry unit generally a mission is rated as pass or fail.
You're not doing a disservice to his life by speaking the truth. If the objectives haven't been met and you suffer a casualty then unfortunately that mission was a fail. It's up to whoever your leader is to face reality of that failure and assess why exactly things didn't go by the numbers.
wait wait wait...
I talked to a guy who was sniping in Afghanistan... that's what he said....
but
I thought people were mad at obama for pulling troops out
More people were mad and still am (including me) at the 5 billion he sent to Syria to train and fiance "Moderate Rebels" who ended up switching over to Isis.
Another thing you have to remember and alot of people don't know is that he drawdown of troops from the ME in 2011 was actually put in place by Bush.
And lasr but not least very idea of America First is putting the interest of America before the rest of the world. As far as a war in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan there is no material gain (though influence in and of itself especially against Russia aggression is valuable.)
I need reference and proof this happened.
2stepz_ahead;c-9662257 said:The_Jackal;c-9662175 said:2stepz_ahead;c-9662145 said:The_Jackal;c-9662108 said:2stepz_ahead;c-9662061 said:but them dudes wanted trumo because Obama was scaling back troops and making shit dangerous for them
From what I seen most people wanted Trump to actually continue scaling back which is the whole point of his "America First" Isolationist policy.
Copper;c-9662068 said:anybody questioning the success of the raid was doing "a disservice to the life of Chief Ryan Owens
The logic that you cant question a mission bc somebody died is the hight of hypocrisy
I don't exactly know how the Navy does nor could I speak on how the SF community does (umberella term for all Special Forces and Special Operation units) but I know at least for my Army infantry unit generally a mission is rated as pass or fail.
You're not doing a disservice to his life by speaking the truth. If the objectives haven't been met and you suffer a casualty then unfortunately that mission was a fail. It's up to whoever your leader is to face reality of that failure and assess why exactly things didn't go by the numbers.
wait wait wait...
I talked to a guy who was sniping in Afghanistan... that's what he said....
but
I thought people were mad at obama for pulling troops out
More people were mad and still am (including me) at the 5 billion he sent to Syria to train and fiance "Moderate Rebels" who ended up switching over to Isis.
Another thing you have to remember and alot of people don't know is that he drawdown of troops from the ME in 2011 was actually put in place by Bush.
And lasr but not least very idea of America First is putting the interest of America before the rest of the world. As far as a war in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan there is no material gain (though influence in and of itself especially against Russia aggression is valuable.)
I gotta correct you on Afghanistan.
there are trillions of dollars of rare earth there.
the other places are not about material or financial gain....it's about militaristic superiority.
Afghanistan
Iraq
Syria
Pakistan an eventually turkey....
what's in the middle?
The_Jackal;c-9662281 said:2stepz_ahead;c-9662257 said:The_Jackal;c-9662175 said:2stepz_ahead;c-9662145 said:The_Jackal;c-9662108 said:2stepz_ahead;c-9662061 said:but them dudes wanted trumo because Obama was scaling back troops and making shit dangerous for them
From what I seen most people wanted Trump to actually continue scaling back which is the whole point of his "America First" Isolationist policy.
Copper;c-9662068 said:anybody questioning the success of the raid was doing "a disservice to the life of Chief Ryan Owens
The logic that you cant question a mission bc somebody died is the hight of hypocrisy
I don't exactly know how the Navy does nor could I speak on how the SF community does (umberella term for all Special Forces and Special Operation units) but I know at least for my Army infantry unit generally a mission is rated as pass or fail.
You're not doing a disservice to his life by speaking the truth. If the objectives haven't been met and you suffer a casualty then unfortunately that mission was a fail. It's up to whoever your leader is to face reality of that failure and assess why exactly things didn't go by the numbers.
wait wait wait...
I talked to a guy who was sniping in Afghanistan... that's what he said....
but
I thought people were mad at obama for pulling troops out
More people were mad and still am (including me) at the 5 billion he sent to Syria to train and fiance "Moderate Rebels" who ended up switching over to Isis.
Another thing you have to remember and alot of people don't know is that he drawdown of troops from the ME in 2011 was actually put in place by Bush.
And lasr but not least very idea of America First is putting the interest of America before the rest of the world. As far as a war in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan there is no material gain (though influence in and of itself especially against Russia aggression is valuable.)
I gotta correct you on Afghanistan.
there are trillions of dollars of rare earth there.
the other places are not about material or financial gain....it's about militaristic superiority.
Afghanistan
Iraq
Syria
Pakistan an eventually turkey....
what's in the middle?
You understand thathe you can't just TAKE those resources though regardless the pounder Trump has been doing. He can't simply seize gas fields that belong to a sovereign country or any other materials on front of the international community and the community at home. He already has to many eyes on him and Democrats ( and I'm sure some republicans) are just waiting for any reason to press that impeach button.
As far as it being about military superiority I don't exactly get what you are trying to convey. We don't need to go to war in Afghanistan to prove we have a stronger military.
2stepz_ahead;c-9662308 said:The_Jackal;c-9662281 said:2stepz_ahead;c-9662257 said:The_Jackal;c-9662175 said:2stepz_ahead;c-9662145 said:The_Jackal;c-9662108 said:2stepz_ahead;c-9662061 said:but them dudes wanted trumo because Obama was scaling back troops and making shit dangerous for them
From what I seen most people wanted Trump to actually continue scaling back which is the whole point of his "America First" Isolationist policy.
Copper;c-9662068 said:anybody questioning the success of the raid was doing "a disservice to the life of Chief Ryan Owens
The logic that you cant question a mission bc somebody died is the hight of hypocrisy
I don't exactly know how the Navy does nor could I speak on how the SF community does (umberella term for all Special Forces and Special Operation units) but I know at least for my Army infantry unit generally a mission is rated as pass or fail.
You're not doing a disservice to his life by speaking the truth. If the objectives haven't been met and you suffer a casualty then unfortunately that mission was a fail. It's up to whoever your leader is to face reality of that failure and assess why exactly things didn't go by the numbers.
wait wait wait...
I talked to a guy who was sniping in Afghanistan... that's what he said....
but
I thought people were mad at obama for pulling troops out
More people were mad and still am (including me) at the 5 billion he sent to Syria to train and fiance "Moderate Rebels" who ended up switching over to Isis.
Another thing you have to remember and alot of people don't know is that he drawdown of troops from the ME in 2011 was actually put in place by Bush.
And lasr but not least very idea of America First is putting the interest of America before the rest of the world. As far as a war in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan there is no material gain (though influence in and of itself especially against Russia aggression is valuable.)
I gotta correct you on Afghanistan.
there are trillions of dollars of rare earth there.
the other places are not about material or financial gain....it's about militaristic superiority.
Afghanistan
Iraq
Syria
Pakistan an eventually turkey....
what's in the middle?
You understand thathe you can't just TAKE those resources though regardless the pounder Trump has been doing. He can't simply seize gas fields that belong to a sovereign country or any other materials on front of the international community and the community at home. He already has to many eyes on him and Democrats ( and I'm sure some republicans) are just waiting for any reason to press that impeach button.
As far as it being about military superiority I don't exactly get what you are trying to convey. We don't need to go to war in Afghanistan to prove we have a stronger military.
no...in the middle is Iran.
we are encircling iran...but Afghanistan ready has "contractors" on the ground.
this was during bush
Copper;c-9662068 said:anybody questioning the success of the raid was doing "a disservice to the life of Chief Ryan Owens
The logic that you cant question a mission bc somebody died is the hight of hypocrisy
rapmusic;c-9662549 said:Trump will just say fake news and keep it moving