Fair or Foul: boy finds his dad's drugs and calls 911

[nex gin]

If u watched the video it said the boy unsuccessfully try to snitch before.. the father gained custody after a divorce and moved in with his mother.. that means the judge saw him as the better parent than his wife.. think about that...

I don't care if he was a hired hitman killing niggas for money he was doing it for his ungrateful son.. it's already a dysfunctional situation made ten times worse by kid who thinks the police are on his side

What kind of a father knowingly puts his children in harms way with a clear conscience? What kind of person do you have to be to think that your son potentially getting killed because of some shit you did out on the street is "just part of the game"???

When you bring a child into this world your only focus should be on caring for that child and protecting that child. If you ain't ready to do that, either don't have kids or give them up to someone who is willing to do the job you're unwilling to do.

Bruh. We understand selling drugs isnt ideal but you're argument is pure conjecture. You're speaking on unknowns, "putting him in harms way/getting killed". Im arguing whats known. The fact is a single father was doing his best to raise his son and his son has betrayed him multiple times by false do-gooding. Now he's an orphan.

Ok, here's what's known from my personal experience.

During the very brief time I sold dat, I got shot at and my boy caught one and could have died in the ER. I had no good good reason to even be out there 'cause I had a job, was in college, was DJ'ing and selling mixtapes so I wasn't pressed for money; it was just some fly shit to do. I could have been killed for an eighth but even more than that, getting killed for any amount of drugs wouldn't have been worth it. From my experience, cats that sell drugs usually end up on the wrong end of a gun.

You say this man was doing his best? I call bullshit. Doing his best would have been to get out there and get a job or two if it called for it. Doing his best would be to get his ass in college or some sort of training to get a better job. Doing his best means busting your ass to take care of your child.

Slangin is NEVER doing your best.

Well-intentioned but closed-minded idealistic thinking here.

You seeing it from your point of view and not trying to see it from someone else's. Doing your best isn't the same him doing his best. That's similar to people who have money saying everybody who's poor just needs to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" without knowledge of what they dealing with.

I'm a father with 4 kids. I grew up piss poor in Saginaw, MI (100 miles north of Detroit and for a time far worse than Tha D) and spent my formative years coming of age in Detroit during the crack era. I know all about whatever dude could have possibly been going through.

Let's back it up tho... Before the career in IT and alladat, before my wife and 4 kids... A young Koncept got a chick knocked up... At least that's what I was told. Remember in that "broke" thread I said I slept in my car for a few days? My ex had given birth just 6 weeks prior to that point in time. I was told this was my child. She moved in with a friend of hers and the plan was that I would get a crib for all of us to move into. When I made the move in with my sister I did so with the intention of saving my money to get a spot for her and our newborn daughter. The job I moved back for was a bullshit clerk/mail runner's temp job at U of M hospital on a 90 day contract. Shits paid $7.50/hr 40 hrs a week with no benefits and no overtime. On the side I was throwing stereos in for people that still knew me and referrals from them. I found out that one of the Chinese buffet spots down the way from me was paying $10 a piece for fresh caught carp, so a bruh was out on Saturday and Sunday with my pole down at the river and hauling no less than 10 carp at a time on the freight to the spot to get that money. I switched to a job that paid a little better but had commission at the end of my 90 days. No commission for 90 days and no benefits for 90 days either, but I stuck it out for my child. A month later I got a two bedroom crib but ole girl flipped it on me and said she wasn't moving in with me. Didn't matter though, I still took care of my daughter while working harder to start building something that would take care of everything if it panned out. I did whatever I could in order to take care of my daughter and at no point in time did slangin drugs become an option.

Fuck that, he had other options.

Wish I could give this 1000 GOATS. Life ain't nothing but choices fam. We all have them. We live and die by them.

 

[konceptjones]

If u watched the video it said the boy unsuccessfully try to snitch before.. the father gained custody after a divorce and moved in with his mother.. that means the judge saw him as the better parent than his wife.. think about that...

I don't care if he was a hired hitman killing niggas for money he was doing it for his ungrateful son.. it's already a dysfunctional situation made ten times worse by kid who thinks the police are on his side

What kind of a father knowingly puts his children in harms way with a clear conscience? What kind of person do you have to be to think that your son potentially getting killed because of some shit you did out on the street is "just part of the game"???

When you bring a child into this world your only focus should be on caring for that child and protecting that child. If you ain't ready to do that, either don't have kids or give them up to someone who is willing to do the job you're unwilling to do.

Bruh. We understand selling drugs isnt ideal but you're argument is pure conjecture. You're speaking on unknowns, "putting him in harms way/getting killed". Im arguing whats known. The fact is a single father was doing his best to raise his son and his son has betrayed him multiple times by false do-gooding. Now he's an orphan.

Ok, here's what's known from my personal experience.

During the very brief time I sold dat, I got shot at and my boy caught one and could have died in the ER. I had no good good reason to even be out there 'cause I had a job, was in college, was DJ'ing and selling mixtapes so I wasn't pressed for money; it was just some fly shit to do. I could have been killed for an eighth but even more than that, getting killed for any amount of drugs wouldn't have been worth it. From my experience, cats that sell drugs usually end up on the wrong end of a gun.

You say this man was doing his best? I call bullshit. Doing his best would have been to get out there and get a job or two if it called for it. Doing his best would be to get his ass in college or some sort of training to get a better job. Doing his best means busting your ass to take care of your child.

Slangin is NEVER doing your best.

Well-intentioned but closed-minded idealistic thinking here.

You seeing it from your point of view and not trying to see it from someone else's. Doing your best isn't the same him doing his best. That's similar to people who have money saying everybody who's poor just needs to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" without knowledge of what they dealing with.

I'm a father with 4 kids. I grew up piss poor in Saginaw, MI (100 miles north of Detroit and for a time far worse than Tha D) and spent my formative years coming of age in Detroit during the crack era. I know all about whatever dude could have possibly been going through.

Let's back it up tho... Before the career in IT and alladat, before my wife and 4 kids... A young Koncept got a chick knocked up... At least that's what I was told. Remember in that "broke" thread I said I slept in my car for a few days? My ex had given birth just 6 weeks prior to that point in time. I was told this was my child. She moved in with a friend of hers and the plan was that I would get a crib for all of us to move into. When I made the move in with my sister I did so with the intention of saving my money to get a spot for her and our newborn daughter. The job I moved back for was a bullshit clerk/mail runner's temp job at U of M hospital on a 90 day contract. Shits paid $7.50/hr 40 hrs a week with no benefits and no overtime. On the side I was throwing stereos in for people that still knew me and referrals from them. I found out that one of the Chinese buffet spots down the way from me was paying $10 a piece for fresh caught carp, so a bruh was out on Saturday and Sunday with my pole down at the river and hauling no less than 10 carp at a time on the freight to the spot to get that money. I switched to a job that paid a little better but had commission at the end of my 90 days. No commission for 90 days and no benefits for 90 days either, but I stuck it out for my child. A month later I got a two bedroom crib but ole girl flipped it on me and said she wasn't moving in with me. Didn't matter though, I still took care of my daughter while working harder to start building something that would take care of everything if it panned out. I did whatever I could in order to take care of my daughter and at no point in time did slangin drugs become an option.

Fuck that, he had other options.

Wish I could give this 1000 GOATS. Life ain't nothing but choices fam. We all have them. We live and die by them.

This is what it all boils down to: Your choice.

How your life turns out is determined by the choices you make early on. You choose to fuck up in school. You choose to stand out on the block. You choose to join a gang. You choose to fuck a chick raw and knock her up when you're still a teenager. You choose all this shit that contributes to your success or your failure. It's all on you. Yes, your environment can present obstacles, but if you're determined you'll find a way around them to keep moving forward.

I've seen too many people overcome staggering poverty and make it out the hood. One of my boys in high school lived in what could only be described as the hoodiest of hoods on the eastside of Detroit off 7 mile. Not once did he go out and flip some shit to get money. His moms worked her ass off to keep the lights on, put clothes on his back, and keep a roof over his head. Dude is doing damned good for himself nowadays working in IT. He made choices to better himself. This "father" should have made better choices in life.

 

[7figz]

That's a GOAT story but it's your story not his. It's one thing to have confidence in yourself and what you been through but how can you realistically speak on somebody you don't know and what they could / couldn't do ? The most you could assume is dude could've had an alternative but that's still an assumption.

here's the problem with what you've said: No matter what you're going through someone else went through something far worse and came through it. Whatever his personal situation was coming up and even leading to the day he decided to start slangin, there was someone that came up with less, in a far worse situation, that didn't resort to slanging and made it. It takes hard work and dedication to something be it your family or just yourself, but it can be done and there are plenty of people you can look to that did it.

Illegal shit is the easy way. No matter what you're doing, no matter what economic level you're at there's always some illegal shit waiting for you. All those loan officers from the early 2000's that are now sitting in federal prison decided that they would take the easy way to closing loans. All the stockbrokers sitting in federal prison because they decided that high six figures or 7 figures wasn't enough and got into insider trading. Plenty of doctors sittin in the pen that felt that they could scam Medicare or Medicaid to pad their pockets. There's politicians in prison because their government salary and benefits wasn't enough and started taking kickbacks for contracts and shit like that. All you gotta do is watch a season of American Greed to know that people that have the good life will still try to take shortcuts or try to find ways to game the system in order to put more money in their pockets and many of them use the exact same excuse: "I was trying to feed my family... make sure they had what they needed".

It's always there, it's there no matter how poor or how rich you are. The question is do you have the strength of character to avoid it, or if you're involved in it can you walk away and never look back?

And there's a lot of people who chose to do shit the "legal" way that's not making it either.

And there's some MF who'll look at what you're doing and say you didn't do enough too.

Bottom line to me, what one person eat don't make the next person shit. I can't say what worked for me would've worked for somebody else with 100% certainty.

Fuck it tho, just gotta agree to disagree.

Illegal shit is the easy way ? Smh. ok.