Fair or Foul: boy finds his dad's drugs and calls 911

[Maywood]

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[7figz]

Update:

WTF ? It ain't the first time the MF called the cops on him ? He called the cops a year ago and they didn't find nothing ?

Ah hell no, this little bastard is a full-time snitch. Ain't no way in hell.

 

[Trillfate]

Im pretty sure dude regrets having him at this point...

After i do my time Id find a way to legally disown him, i dont care

 

[Valentinez A. Kaiser]

Watch Tariq do Ghost like that and be on some....

Who old enough to remember this PSA

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KUXb7do9C-w

 

[konceptjones]

Im pretty sure dude regrets having him at this point...

After i do my time Id find a way to legally disown him, i dont care

for what???

All jokes and shit aside, Dad couldn't get a job to make that bread? Was he forced into sellin drugs??? I get it, he's got a criminal record and can't get a job so somehow we're supposed to have some level of understanding here, right???

If he was doing it to feed his family because he fucked up royally somewhere in the past and has a felony record, didn't finish school, or whatever excuse he's got then the fault lies squarely on him. The kids ain't got shit to do with that and it should never be their burden either. You brought them kids into this world; get out there and bust your ass to take care of them. Your son should see you working your ass off to provide for him, not sittin off in a room with scales and baggies committin felonies using his existence as an excuse to do it. Can't get a job? Do odd jobs, take up construction or something, there's plenty of companies that will hire cats with felonies (i.e. Home Depot). Get a job with one of them spots or two of them if you have to. Your child should be worth it to you to do that hard work to provide for them. Slangin puts you and your family in harms way 'cause you can get killed, your fam shot by a stray or during a police raid, or your ass can end up in prison and no good to them at all.

We all see it as foul and all, but you fail to remember that you put lil dude in the position to even have a reason to call the cops in the first place. If anything HE should emancipate himself from you for being a leech and a disgrace to the community.

 

[Trillfate]

If u watched the video it said the boy unsuccessfully try to snitch before.. the father gained custody after a divorce and moved in with his mother.. that means the judge saw him as the better parent than his wife.. think about that...

I don't care if he was a hired hitman killing niggas for money he was doing it for his ungrateful son.. it's already a dysfunctional situation made ten times worse by kid who thinks the police are on his side

 

[konceptjones]

If u watched the video it said the boy unsuccessfully try to snitch before.. the father gained custody after a divorce and moved in with his mother.. that means the judge saw him as the better parent than his wife.. think about that...

I don't care if he was a hired hitman killing niggas for money he was doing it for his ungrateful son.. it's already a dysfunctional situation made ten times worse by kid who thinks the police are on his side

What kind of a father knowingly puts his children in harms way with a clear conscience? What kind of person do you have to be to think that your son potentially getting killed because of some shit you did out on the street is "just part of the game"???

When you bring a child into this world your only focus should be on caring for that child and protecting that child. If you ain't ready to do that, either don't have kids or give them up to someone who is willing to do the job you're unwilling to do.

 

[7figz]

If u watched the video it said the boy unsuccessfully try to snitch before.. the father gained custody after a divorce and moved in with his mother.. that means the judge saw him as the better parent than his wife.. think about that...

I don't care if he was a hired hitman killing niggas for money he was doing it for his ungrateful son.. it's already a dysfunctional situation made ten times worse by kid who thinks the police are on his side

What kind of a father knowingly puts his children in harms way with a clear conscience? What kind of person do you have to be to think that your son potentially getting killed because of some shit you did out on the street is "just part of the game"???

When you bring a child into this world your only focus should be on caring for that child and protecting that child. If you ain't ready to do that, either don't have kids or give them up to someone who is willing to do the job you're unwilling to do.

Like it or not, people sell drugs out here man. It's not like dude had the shit on the kitchen table either (it was hidden in luggage). So whether it was within reach or the kid had to go out of his way to find it is debatable.

And the fact that dude already called the cops once and they didn't find anything says something.

As far as the father - people already past the point of whether or not selling drugs is right / wrong but after that, what kind of kid calls the cops on his single parent who seem to be taking care of the little MF ?

You don't know if dude focusing on his kid or not -

He got custody.

He standing there in a birthday party pic with lil dude.

Lil dude still with him a year after the kid already called cops on him.

And who knows what the fuck else goes on. There's better ways this little shit could've handled it than getting his pops locked up for what might be years.

And now all that shit about the kid is 11 and he might've not known the ramifications that other posters were saying earlier is probably out the window since he did this before and got convicted and that's what the lil MF told the cops..

 

[Trillfate]

If u watched the video it said the boy unsuccessfully try to snitch before.. the father gained custody after a divorce and moved in with his mother.. that means the judge saw him as the better parent than his wife.. think about that...

I don't care if he was a hired hitman killing niggas for money he was doing it for his ungrateful son.. it's already a dysfunctional situation made ten times worse by kid who thinks the police are on his side

What kind of a father knowingly puts his children in harms way with a clear conscience? What kind of person do you have to be to think that your son potentially getting killed because of some shit you did out on the street is "just part of the game"???

When you bring a child into this world your only focus should be on caring for that child and protecting that child. If you ain't ready to do that, either don't have kids or give them up to someone who is willing to do the job you're unwilling to do.

Bruh. We understand selling drugs isnt ideal but you're argument is pure conjecture. You're speaking on unknowns, "putting him in harms way/getting killed". Im arguing whats known. The fact is a single father was doing his best to raise his son and his son has betrayed him multiple times by false do-gooding. Now he's an orphan.

 

[konceptjones]

If u watched the video it said the boy unsuccessfully try to snitch before.. the father gained custody after a divorce and moved in with his mother.. that means the judge saw him as the better parent than his wife.. think about that...

I don't care if he was a hired hitman killing niggas for money he was doing it for his ungrateful son.. it's already a dysfunctional situation made ten times worse by kid who thinks the police are on his side

What kind of a father knowingly puts his children in harms way with a clear conscience? What kind of person do you have to be to think that your son potentially getting killed because of some shit you did out on the street is "just part of the game"???

When you bring a child into this world your only focus should be on caring for that child and protecting that child. If you ain't ready to do that, either don't have kids or give them up to someone who is willing to do the job you're unwilling to do.

Bruh. We understand selling drugs isnt ideal but you're argument is pure conjecture. You're speaking on unknowns, "putting him in harms way/getting killed". Im arguing whats known. The fact is a single father was doing his best to raise his son and his son has betrayed him multiple times by false do-gooding. Now he's an orphan.

Ok, here's what's known from my personal experience.

During the very brief time I sold dat, I got shot at and my boy caught one and could have died in the ER. I had no good good reason to even be out there 'cause I had a job, was in college, was DJ'ing and selling mixtapes so I wasn't pressed for money; it was just some fly shit to do. I could have been killed for an eighth but even more than that, getting killed for any amount of drugs wouldn't have been worth it. From my experience, cats that sell drugs usually end up on the wrong end of a gun.

You say this man was doing his best? I call bullshit. Doing his best would have been to get out there and get a job or two if it called for it. Doing his best would be to get his ass in college or some sort of training to get a better job. Doing his best means busting your ass to take care of your child.

Slangin is NEVER doing your best.

 

[7figz]

If u watched the video it said the boy unsuccessfully try to snitch before.. the father gained custody after a divorce and moved in with his mother.. that means the judge saw him as the better parent than his wife.. think about that...

I don't care if he was a hired hitman killing niggas for money he was doing it for his ungrateful son.. it's already a dysfunctional situation made ten times worse by kid who thinks the police are on his side

What kind of a father knowingly puts his children in harms way with a clear conscience? What kind of person do you have to be to think that your son potentially getting killed because of some shit you did out on the street is "just part of the game"???

When you bring a child into this world your only focus should be on caring for that child and protecting that child. If you ain't ready to do that, either don't have kids or give them up to someone who is willing to do the job you're unwilling to do.

Bruh. We understand selling drugs isnt ideal but you're argument is pure conjecture. You're speaking on unknowns, "putting him in harms way/getting killed". Im arguing whats known. The fact is a single father was doing his best to raise his son and his son has betrayed him multiple times by false do-gooding. Now he's an orphan.

Ok, here's what's known from my personal experience.

During the very brief time I sold dat, I got shot at and my boy caught one and could have died in the ER. I had no good good reason to even be out there 'cause I had a job, was in college, was DJ'ing and selling mixtapes so I wasn't pressed for money; it was just some fly shit to do. I could have been killed for an eighth but even more than that, getting killed for any amount of drugs wouldn't have been worth it. From my experience, cats that sell drugs usually end up on the wrong end of a gun.

You say this man was doing his best? I call bullshit. Doing his best would have been to get out there and get a job or two if it called for it. Doing his best would be to get his ass in college or some sort of training to get a better job. Doing his best means busting your ass to take care of your child.

Slangin is NEVER doing your best.

Well-intentioned but closed-minded idealistic thinking here.

You seeing it from your point of view and not trying to see it from someone else's. Doing your best isn't the same him doing his best. That's similar to people who have money saying everybody who's poor just needs to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" without knowledge of what they dealing with.

 

[goldenja]

If u watched the video it said the boy unsuccessfully try to snitch before.. the father gained custody after a divorce and moved in with his mother.. that means the judge saw him as the better parent than his wife.. think about that...

I don't care if he was a hired hitman killing niggas for money he was doing it for his ungrateful son.. it's already a dysfunctional situation made ten times worse by kid who thinks the police are on his side

What kind of a father knowingly puts his children in harms way with a clear conscience? What kind of person do you have to be to think that your son potentially getting killed because of some shit you did out on the street is "just part of the game"???

When you bring a child into this world your only focus should be on caring for that child and protecting that child. If you ain't ready to do that, either don't have kids or give them up to someone who is willing to do the job you're unwilling to do.

Bruh. We understand selling drugs isnt ideal but you're argument is pure conjecture. You're speaking on unknowns, "putting him in harms way/getting killed". Im arguing whats known. The fact is a single father was doing his best to raise his son and his son has betrayed him multiple times by false do-gooding. Now he's an orphan.

Ok, here's what's known from my personal experience.

During the very brief time I sold dat, I got shot at and my boy caught one and could have died in the ER. I had no good good reason to even be out there 'cause I had a job, was in college, was DJ'ing and selling mixtapes so I wasn't pressed for money; it was just some fly shit to do. I could have been killed for an eighth but even more than that, getting killed for any amount of drugs wouldn't have been worth it. From my experience, cats that sell drugs usually end up on the wrong end of a gun.

You say this man was doing his best? I call bullshit. Doing his best would have been to get out there and get a job or two if it called for it. Doing his best would be to get his ass in college or some sort of training to get a better job. Doing his best means busting your ass to take care of your child.

Slangin is NEVER doing your best.

Well-intentioned but closed-minded idealistic thinking here.

You seeing it from your point of view and not trying to see it from someone else's. Doing your best isn't the same him doing his best. That's similar to people who have money saying everybody who's poor just needs to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" without knowledge of what they dealing with.

Put it this way.. In this fathers situation, where do you think the bar was set? High? Low? or somewhere in between?

 

[babelipsss]

The kid called in before? That's like a red flag. Maybe he's being manipulated by someone with a grudge against the father. Possibly the mother. Custody battles are nasty business.

 

[CashmoneyDux]

I hope some of you niggas aren't fathers

 

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[7figz]

If u watched the video it said the boy unsuccessfully try to snitch before.. the father gained custody after a divorce and moved in with his mother.. that means the judge saw him as the better parent than his wife.. think about that...

I don't care if he was a hired hitman killing niggas for money he was doing it for his ungrateful son.. it's already a dysfunctional situation made ten times worse by kid who thinks the police are on his side

What kind of a father knowingly puts his children in harms way with a clear conscience? What kind of person do you have to be to think that your son potentially getting killed because of some shit you did out on the street is "just part of the game"???

When you bring a child into this world your only focus should be on caring for that child and protecting that child. If you ain't ready to do that, either don't have kids or give them up to someone who is willing to do the job you're unwilling to do.

Bruh. We understand selling drugs isnt ideal but you're argument is pure conjecture. You're speaking on unknowns, "putting him in harms way/getting killed". Im arguing whats known. The fact is a single father was doing his best to raise his son and his son has betrayed him multiple times by false do-gooding. Now he's an orphan.

Ok, here's what's known from my personal experience.

During the very brief time I sold dat, I got shot at and my boy caught one and could have died in the ER. I had no good good reason to even be out there 'cause I had a job, was in college, was DJ'ing and selling mixtapes so I wasn't pressed for money; it was just some fly shit to do. I could have been killed for an eighth but even more than that, getting killed for any amount of drugs wouldn't have been worth it. From my experience, cats that sell drugs usually end up on the wrong end of a gun.

You say this man was doing his best? I call bullshit. Doing his best would have been to get out there and get a job or two if it called for it. Doing his best would be to get his ass in college or some sort of training to get a better job. Doing his best means busting your ass to take care of your child.

Slangin is NEVER doing your best.

Well-intentioned but closed-minded idealistic thinking here.

You seeing it from your point of view and not trying to see it from someone else's. Doing your best isn't the same him doing his best. That's similar to people who have money saying everybody who's poor just needs to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" without knowledge of what they dealing with.

Put it this way.. In this fathers situation, where do you think the bar was set? High? Low? or somewhere in between?

Not sure I understand the question / point. If you're asking me was the bar low / high for the father, I'd honestly say I don't have enough info. to make that determination. That's the point I tried to make to dude. You don't shit else about their life besides what we could believe from the media.

If I'm a single parent of a kid, living with my mother, and likely a convicted felon - seems like the bar is high.

 

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[konceptjones]

If u watched the video it said the boy unsuccessfully try to snitch before.. the father gained custody after a divorce and moved in with his mother.. that means the judge saw him as the better parent than his wife.. think about that...

I don't care if he was a hired hitman killing niggas for money he was doing it for his ungrateful son.. it's already a dysfunctional situation made ten times worse by kid who thinks the police are on his side

What kind of a father knowingly puts his children in harms way with a clear conscience? What kind of person do you have to be to think that your son potentially getting killed because of some shit you did out on the street is "just part of the game"???

When you bring a child into this world your only focus should be on caring for that child and protecting that child. If you ain't ready to do that, either don't have kids or give them up to someone who is willing to do the job you're unwilling to do.

Bruh. We understand selling drugs isnt ideal but you're argument is pure conjecture. You're speaking on unknowns, "putting him in harms way/getting killed". Im arguing whats known. The fact is a single father was doing his best to raise his son and his son has betrayed him multiple times by false do-gooding. Now he's an orphan.

Ok, here's what's known from my personal experience.

During the very brief time I sold dat, I got shot at and my boy caught one and could have died in the ER. I had no good good reason to even be out there 'cause I had a job, was in college, was DJ'ing and selling mixtapes so I wasn't pressed for money; it was just some fly shit to do. I could have been killed for an eighth but even more than that, getting killed for any amount of drugs wouldn't have been worth it. From my experience, cats that sell drugs usually end up on the wrong end of a gun.

You say this man was doing his best? I call bullshit. Doing his best would have been to get out there and get a job or two if it called for it. Doing his best would be to get his ass in college or some sort of training to get a better job. Doing his best means busting your ass to take care of your child.

Slangin is NEVER doing your best.

Well-intentioned but closed-minded idealistic thinking here.

You seeing it from your point of view and not trying to see it from someone else's. Doing your best isn't the same him doing his best. That's similar to people who have money saying everybody who's poor just needs to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" without knowledge of what they dealing with.

I'm a father with 4 kids. I grew up piss poor in Saginaw, MI (100 miles north of Detroit and for a time far worse than Tha D) and spent my formative years coming of age in Detroit during the crack era. I know all about whatever dude could have possibly been going through.

Let's back it up tho... Before the career in IT and alladat, before my wife and 4 kids... A young Koncept got a chick knocked up... At least that's what I was told. Remember in that "broke" thread I said I slept in my car for a few days? My ex had given birth just 6 weeks prior to that point in time. I was told this was my child. She moved in with a friend of hers and the plan was that I would get a crib for all of us to move into. When I made the move in with my sister I did so with the intention of saving my money to get a spot for her and our newborn daughter. The job I moved back for was a bullshit clerk/mail runner's temp job at U of M hospital on a 90 day contract. Shits paid $7.50/hr 40 hrs a week with no benefits and no overtime. On the side I was throwing stereos in for people that still knew me and referrals from them. I found out that one of the Chinese buffet spots down the way from me was paying $10 a piece for fresh caught carp, so a bruh was out on Saturday and Sunday with my pole down at the river and hauling no less than 10 carp at a time on the freight to the spot to get that money. I switched to a job that paid a little better but had commission at the end of my 90 days. No commission for 90 days and no benefits for 90 days either, but I stuck it out for my child. A month later I got a two bedroom crib but ole girl flipped it on me and said she wasn't moving in with me. Didn't matter though, I still took care of my daughter while working harder to start building something that would take care of everything if it panned out. I did whatever I could in order to take care of my daughter and at no point in time did slangin drugs become an option.

Fuck that, he had other options.

 

[7figz]

If u watched the video it said the boy unsuccessfully try to snitch before.. the father gained custody after a divorce and moved in with his mother.. that means the judge saw him as the better parent than his wife.. think about that...

I don't care if he was a hired hitman killing niggas for money he was doing it for his ungrateful son.. it's already a dysfunctional situation made ten times worse by kid who thinks the police are on his side

What kind of a father knowingly puts his children in harms way with a clear conscience? What kind of person do you have to be to think that your son potentially getting killed because of some shit you did out on the street is "just part of the game"???

When you bring a child into this world your only focus should be on caring for that child and protecting that child. If you ain't ready to do that, either don't have kids or give them up to someone who is willing to do the job you're unwilling to do.

Bruh. We understand selling drugs isnt ideal but you're argument is pure conjecture. You're speaking on unknowns, "putting him in harms way/getting killed". Im arguing whats known. The fact is a single father was doing his best to raise his son and his son has betrayed him multiple times by false do-gooding. Now he's an orphan.

Ok, here's what's known from my personal experience.

During the very brief time I sold dat, I got shot at and my boy caught one and could have died in the ER. I had no good good reason to even be out there 'cause I had a job, was in college, was DJ'ing and selling mixtapes so I wasn't pressed for money; it was just some fly shit to do. I could have been killed for an eighth but even more than that, getting killed for any amount of drugs wouldn't have been worth it. From my experience, cats that sell drugs usually end up on the wrong end of a gun.

You say this man was doing his best? I call bullshit. Doing his best would have been to get out there and get a job or two if it called for it. Doing his best would be to get his ass in college or some sort of training to get a better job. Doing his best means busting your ass to take care of your child.

Slangin is NEVER doing your best.

Well-intentioned but closed-minded idealistic thinking here.

You seeing it from your point of view and not trying to see it from someone else's. Doing your best isn't the same him doing his best. That's similar to people who have money saying everybody who's poor just needs to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" without knowledge of what they dealing with.

I'm a father with 4 kids. I grew up piss poor in Saginaw, MI (100 miles north of Detroit and for a time far worse than Tha D) and spent my formative years coming of age in Detroit during the crack era. I know all about whatever dude could have possibly been going through.

Let's back it up tho... Before the career in IT and alladat, before my wife and 4 kids... A young Koncept got a chick knocked up... At least that's what I was told. Remember in that "broke" thread I said I slept in my car for a few days? My ex had given birth just 6 weeks prior to that point in time. I was told this was my child. She moved in with a friend of hers and the plan was that I would get a crib for all of us to move into. When I made the move in with my sister I did so with the intention of saving my money to get a spot for her and our newborn daughter. The job I moved back for was a bullshit clerk/mail runner's temp job at U of M hospital on a 90 day contract. Shits paid $7.50/hr 40 hrs a week with no benefits and no overtime. On the side I was throwing stereos in for people that still knew me and referrals from them. I found out that one of the Chinese buffet spots down the way from me was paying $10 a piece for fresh caught carp, so a bruh was out on Saturday and Sunday with my pole down at the river and hauling no less than 10 carp at a time on the freight to the spot to get that money. I switched to a job that paid a little better but had commission at the end of my 90 days. No commission for 90 days and no benefits for 90 days either, but I stuck it out for my child. A month later I got a two bedroom crib but ole girl flipped it on me and said she wasn't moving in with me. Didn't matter though, I still took care of my daughter while working harder to start building something that would take care of everything if it panned out. I did whatever I could in order to take care of my daughter and at no point in time did slangin drugs become an option.

Fuck that, he had other options.

That's a GOAT story but it's your story not his. It's one thing to have confidence in yourself and what you been through but how can you realistically speak on somebody you don't know and what they could / couldn't do ? The most you could assume is dude could've had an alternative but that's still an assumption.

 

[konceptjones]

That's a GOAT story but it's your story not his. It's one thing to have confidence in yourself and what you been through but how can you realistically speak on somebody you don't know and what they could / couldn't do ? The most you could assume is dude could've had an alternative but that's still an assumption.

here's the problem with what you've said: No matter what you're going through someone else went through something far worse and came through it. Whatever his personal situation was coming up and even leading to the day he decided to start slangin, there was someone that came up with less, in a far worse situation, that didn't resort to slanging and made it. It takes hard work and dedication to something be it your family or just yourself, but it can be done and there are plenty of people you can look to that did it.

Illegal shit is the easy way. No matter what you're doing, no matter what economic level you're at there's always some illegal shit waiting for you. All those loan officers from the early 2000's that are now sitting in federal prison decided that they would take the easy way to closing loans. All the stockbrokers sitting in federal prison because they decided that high six figures or 7 figures wasn't enough and got into insider trading. Plenty of doctors sittin in the pen that felt that they could scam Medicare or Medicaid to pad their pockets. There's politicians in prison because their government salary and benefits wasn't enough and started taking kickbacks for contracts and shit like that. All you gotta do is watch a season of American Greed to know that people that have the good life will still try to take shortcuts or try to find ways to game the system in order to put more money in their pockets and many of them use the exact same excuse: "I was trying to feed my family... make sure they had what they needed".

It's always there, it's there no matter how poor or how rich you are. The question is do you have the strength of character to avoid it, or if you're involved in it can you walk away and never look back?