Face Facts. Canibus BODIED LL on 2nd Round K.O. (Top 5 Diss All Time).

[Mvpbrodie93]

Canibus did his thing there

But LL just did it better then him

Be 100 percent now, when u select "ripper strikes back" on your iPod you fastforward to "99 percent of your fans don't exist", you laugh then switch off that wack shit

it has ONE good line in the WHOLE song.

2nd round knockout beats it lyrically, the concept, the beat everything.

And that's the truth

 

[rsheth3]

LL won................

 

[freshb651]

LL won................

wrong..wrong

 

[tompetrez3]

that "shock u with a 100,000 volt thunderbolt" is crazy

 

[McGeeAKey]

LL won................

ll won? lol that's a joke right word around the industry,Canibus really won,it was the ether of the 90s bruh

 

[rapmastermind]

"Solidja Nigga, Thought I told ya Nigga, Cross over, Slam Dunk, Game Over Nigga" - LL Coo J

You guys can't be serious cosigning this weak lyricist?. Canibus punished him and in my view is LL's only L in a rap battle. He's easily one of the greatest battle rappers of all time. His track record speaks for itslef. But he wasn't perfect, some argue Kool Moe Dee beat him but the reality is Canibus like "Ether" after it and "Hit Em Up" before it. It goes at a what would become a "Rap Legend". "2nd round K.O." title was Canibus admitting that LL had a sick verse on "4,3,2,1" and he did. Canibus is saying, "OK, you knocked me out there, but I got you this round and I'm knockin you out.". He didn't knock LL out but lookin back at hit, his diss was clearly better. My Top 5 Disses Ever:

1. Hit Em Up

2. Ether

3. No Vasoline

4. Bitch In You

5. 2nd Round K.O.

 

[georgia boi]

ll won? lol that's a joke right word around the industry,Canibus really won,it was the ether of the 90s bruh

The only thing that "Ether" has in common w/ "2nd Round K.O." is that both are disses from the perceived underdog in their respective battles, but "2nd Round K.O." didn't really come off with anywhere near the impact of "Ether" in the 90's. "Ether" was big w/o a video. Even worse, Canibus really didn't directly address LL in the song besides throwing out little references about LL.

 

[rapmastermind]

The only thing that "Ether" has in common w/ "2nd Round K.O." is that both are disses from the perceived underdog in their respective battles, but "2nd Round K.O." didn't really come off with anywhere near the impact of "Ether" in the 90's. "Ether" was big w/o a video. Even worse, Canibus really didn't directly address LL in the song besides throwing out little references about LL.

Exactly, the song was really a subliminal but everyone knows he was clearly talking about LL. As for Impact, the song was the biggest hit of his album that went Gold and actually peaked at #2 on the charts. So he did pretty well for a new artist looking back. It's just that expectations were so high for it, People just don't under stand how many features Canibus was rippin back them. Lyrically he was speical, and this diss track was one of the reasons why. "2nd Round K.O." actually charted at #28 on the Hot 100 making it one of the highest ranking diss songs to ever chart as a single. It got to #3 on the Rap charts and #5 on the sales charts as a single, so the song acutally did pretty well and help to get Canibus some press back then. he had shine until systemically and yes through some average material by Canibus himself, his career fell off.

 

[runningwolf1980]

It's a fact that LL's career did slightly decline after the beef. He just didn't move the units he used to from 85-99, LL moved mad units. From 2000-Present his career his been on the decline. I'm not saying that's all Canibus but obviously "2nd Round K.O." had it's affect on his career. Also anyone who was there during that time knows that in the streets, Canibus Won but in the press and mainstream media, of course they gave LL the victory. This wasn't a NaS/Jay situation or Big/Pac where both ppl had equal clout. Canibus was up and coming and LL at that point was a Living Legend in the game. His respect alone put him over Canibus. Anyone looking at all Diss records objectively can't honestly say LL won that battle. No matter what happen to Canibus career (which was mostly industry politics), it was clear he bodied LL.

thats a hell run right there breh....fact is LL was in the later years of his career anyway l's albums have tapered off just like everybody elses in the game. and i was there in that era i remember getting the ripper stricks back single with the dmx its dark and hell is hot LP and i remember right then canibus was done....

 

[aquizzle]

I fuck with 4,3,2,1 LL.. he went hard on that and Ripper strikes back

 

[runningwolf1980]

"Solidja Nigga, Thought I told ya Nigga, Cross over, Slam Dunk, Game Over Nigga" - LL Coo J

You guys can't be serious cosigning this weak lyricist?. Canibus punished him and in my view is LL's only L in a rap battle. He's easily one of the greatest battle rappers of all time. His track record speaks for itslef. But he wasn't perfect, some argue Kool Moe Dee beat him but the reality is Canibus like "Ether" after it and "Hit Em Up" before it. It goes at a what would become a "Rap Legend". "2nd round K.O." title was Canibus admitting that LL had a sick verse on "4,3,2,1" and he did. Canibus is saying, "OK, you knocked me out there, but I got you this round and I'm knockin you out.". He didn't knock LL out but lookin back at hit, his diss was clearly better. My Top 5 Disses Ever:

1. Hit E

2. Ether

3. No Vasoline

4. Bitch In You

5. 2nd Round K.O.

this i agree with.....

 

[McGeeAKey]

na son LL killed that nigga

r u sure he killed that nigga?canibus ripped a new asshole on LL

 

[UPTOWN]

I RESPECT YOUR OPINION. but which song fucked the niggas career up?

what makes you think LL fucked up can i bus's career??

can i bus album just wasnt good. that is it. end of story ... it had nothing to do with LL ... no one turned their back on bis once he dissed LL ... in fact, it made people anticipate his album even more. but at the end of the day, bis's debut just simply wasnt good and people stopped checking for him on a mainstream level

come to think of it ... all LL's albums after that were flops and hot garbage too

 

[curtis75black]

Canibus interview on AllHipHop.com
Ever since the blistering verse on the introductory Lost Boyz posse cut "Beast From The East," Canibus has always been praised for his lyrical ferocity. The combination of an extensive vocabulary and a near flawless delivery should have made his accent to Hip-Hop royalty that much easier, but all that glitters is not gold. Almost two calendars later, the Canibus man has been seldom seen or heard from.

Always an interesting interview, AllHipHop.com found ‘Bus in Atlanta, mapping out his next attack. We discuss old records, old rumors, and try to extract details on the next return of Canibus. Notice the artful dodges of some topics, and the ferocious zeal in others. In Hip-Hop, it takes all kinds – and in terms of talent, as well as personality – Canibus is rather unique.

AllHipHop.com: It was a quiet 2004 for you. Where have you been?

Canibus: Growing, searching and working.

AllHipHop.com: How was the military bid for you. What updates can you give us since we last spoke?

Canibus: Four months of Basic out of Ft. Knox, Tennessee [and] 20 months, active duty. [Right now I’m] finalizing the release of my new album, Mind Control dropping June 21st on Gladiator/Tommy Boy. Plus a new docu-film DVD in August, which tells my story and the story of others I've served with.

AllHipHop.com: Can you elaborate much on Mind Control?

Canibus: can't say too much, you wouldn't understand. My picture is half developed. Check out www.Gladiatormusic.com for details about future releases.

AllHipHop.com: You said Gladiator. I read somewhere you were talking to Shaq to sign to his new label?

Canibus: I spoke with Shaq, and we didn't talk about that. More than anything, I think Shaq was excited to see me back home safe. Shaq is my friend and has encouraged me to follow my heart. I have a cut on Kay Slay's album [coming soon]. Big shout to Mark Stevens and the Drama King!

AllHipHop.com: What’s your relationship with Wyclef nowadays? Will we see a reunion sometime soon?

Canibus: ‘Clef, Jerry [Duplesis], Lauryn, and Pras are recording again and that is good news to me and millions of others. This year should be great for classic Rap music releases.

AllHipHop.com: Was there any truth to the Roc-A-Fella rumors released a while ago, that they were trying to sign you?

Canibus: I'm not too keen on rumors. Factually, I never confronted anything concrete about that rumor. I need to holla at Hov to conduct some Hip-Hop courses at his school of arts.

AllHipHop.com: Is your book still coming out?

Canibus: The speculation about a book is also a rumor.

AllHipHop.com: What albums or artists are you currently checking for?

Canibus: Ok.....you asked me. I been wearin' out The Massacre and there's another group called Hexentanz. ‘Nuff Reggae too!

AllHipHop.com: Looking back, what was up with C True Hollywood Stories? Years later, I still don’t get it. What was the direction you were trying to take with that album?

Canibus: [That album] depicts the state of affairs in my life at the time - nothing more, nothing less.

AllHipHop.com: Well, can you say what inspired you to write such an intellectually inclined album as Rip The Jacker - I mean, you were quoting stuff like thermodynamics laws, names like David Hulme and Stephen J. Gould.

Canibus: Rip The Jacker was written on a stained dinner table in Hell's Kitchen. There is a follow up album in the works. Stoupe's [Jedi Mind Tricks] insight is nothing short of genius and we should do it again.

AllHipHop.com: What motivates you to write? Yourself, fans?

Canibus: In my opinion, writing is the middle ground between thought and talk. The rhymes are made much in the same way design specs serve as a precursor to a working model for the listener to test and confirm. The trade-off is that true fans inspire me and I feel obligated to inspire them in return for investing the time and energy to listen.

AllHipHop.com: Just to update: you’ve said in the past that you were misunderstood by the public due to the LL Cool J battle. Do you think that still applies and why?

Canibus: For the millionth time...I'm a fan of LL. Misunderstanding is still a form of understanding. As the music industry continues to expand, the revenue made outweighs what Hip-Hop was created to convey. In other words, Hip-Hop has a social system that mimics the society we live in and needs a governing body that is fair and just. Equilibrium, homie. Newsflash! Rap music has a lower, middle, and upper class. These divided factions quarrel over issues that are subjective to their perspective. Balanced representation of the Rap cultures diverse social classes is quickly becoming a dictatorship that no one reading this will be able to augment. Hip-Hop needs government! Thank you, I'm Germaine Williams reporting for AllHipHop.com.

AllHipHop.com: How do you feel about all your albums years later? Anything you would change?

Canibus: I love all of my albums. I cannot change history. At best, my story will be a mystery.

AllHipHop.com: Do you think you have spit your illest rhyme yet? If not what do you think is your hottest bars to date in your opinion?

Canibus: No way to accurately tell. Rip the Jacker was supposed to be my last album, but since I have been given the chance to continue, I see no reason why I wouldn't. June 21st will annex something new for me and hopefully many others, Mind Control!

AllHipHop.com: Are we going to get a quality Horsemen project anytime soon?

Canibus: Ras Kass, KP, and Kurupt are three of my favorites! We can do it again.

AllHipHop.com: What do you think of all the current Rap beef?

Canibus: As long as no one gets killed, I suppose it's natural to destroy and rebuild. The world isn't perfect. Why should Rap music be?

AllHipHop.com: With the battle circuit heating up, and the Fight Klub putting up a million dollars as prize money for an upcoming battle, would you consider battling again.

Canibus: No. The battle is over for me. I'm free to make music and elevate the art. It's time to rebuild. In closing, I'd like to say thank you" to AllHipHop.com Hip-Hop needs good journalism. Keep it up!
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I believe one of the last interviews on AHH

 

[icame4wo]

LL had his run in hip-hop in its entierty canibus on the other hand got cut short like i tell my homeboy with youtube,downloads,myspace and the sort theres no excuse to why he dont sell other that the fact his fan base dosnt exsist like LL said or he cant get new fans cause he's wack...face it breh LL gave canibitch an ass-whippin

This past February, Canibus' Melatonin Magik entered in at the no. 91 spot on the Hip Hop Billboard charts.
http://www.ballerstatus.com/2010/08/13/canibus-preps-new-album-for-october/

someone is still buying his albums.

 

[Azmik]

why does everyone keep calling it ether? ether is nas's 2nd round ko...bis came first. respect the history...and to be completely honest with you, ether was hard, but jigga's got yourself a gun remix made me giggle way more than anything the rest of them did

 

[thedesolateone]

why does everyone keep calling it ether? ether is nas's 2nd round ko...bis came first. respect the history...and to be completely honest with you, ether was hard, but jigga's got yourself a gun remix made me giggle way more than anything the rest of them did

giggling is mad gay

 

[Azmik]

giggling is mad gay

if you don't giggle, you probably need to get laid more...my game's solid. appreciate the feedback though

 

[runningwolf1980]

if you don't giggle, you probably need to get laid more...my game's solid. appreciate the feedback though

real talk right there....niggaz be to fucking hard sometimes...smh

 

[thefocusman2]

as great as 2nd round K.O. was/is The Ripper Strikes Back effectively ended Canibus's career. don't matter how you spin it. whatever you say it doesn't matter Canibus was never the same after that. can't even say that he won because The Ripper Strikes Back came out AFTER Second Round K.O..