F**k real hip hop- Tyler the creator

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SwampNigga;3839102 said:
I be on the same shit, but not in his corn ball, anti-establishment, white kids gonna eat it up way, that's just my mentality about hip hop, I mean what the fuck is "real" hip hop? Not shit, what yall think is "real" hip hop is basically conscious, deep, or lyrical hip hop. As far as I know hip hop started out as party music, so the fact that you say rappers like Waka, Gucci, and OJ are not "real" hip hop is ridiculous, if them niggas ain't, then Sugarhill gang and the niggas who started this shit ain't either. Niggas just started to get spoiled during the early and mid 90's with lyrical hip hop being in the mainstream. Ain't no such thing as "real" hip hop.

The East coast is the only side that's different from the rest, throughout hip hop history, the South, West and mid-West has always made similar music, we are not against making songs about nothing, and Kanye and Common don't count they was influenced by an East coast sound, them niggas don't sound like Psychodrama and Crucial Conflict. Yall East coast niggas got yall own culture and yall can have that shit, just leave our shit alone. You can't understand us.

Nigga there's a differnce between a Waka etc and a party joint from back in the day. Shit even One More Chance was a party joint and the flow and lyrics was still on point and be having niggas quoting it til this day. It's that you should have SKILL in this game and work on your craft. It's like the nigga that goes to college and all that shit but here comes some nigga that gets the job just because they like his personality even though he has no education or skill other than that (exaggerating obviously). With R&B people demand that the artist at least can SING and/or DANCE, with Rock people demand that you actually can play an instrument/write songs if you're the lead but with rap niggas like OJ came came out talking about how they dont give a fuck about hip-hop and that they hustlers, that they dont work on their craft and only money and things like that and then have niggas out there saying "5t0p HaTiiNN h3 g3ttiN m0N3Y d03!" while the nigga who actually study and work on their craft gets shrugged off and you expect for people not to get upset?
 
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it always breask down to this even little weirdo's Like Tyler are tools of the machine and the Machine hates what almost happened in the 90's...
 
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fuck that little poser faggot. im sick of young punks talking this elitist shit. requiring the artist to have skill before you give that shit a chance is not being an elitist. all this industry bullshit and dopeboy bullshit got the young'ns not realizing that rap is poetry and its music. niggas dont respect the artform.
 
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Fazeem Blackall;3839699 said:
it always breaks down to this even little weirdo's Like Tyler are tools of the machine and the Machine hates what almost happened in the 90's...

Anyone who grew up in that era had to choose sides and it broke down to who were you Backing the Streets or Corporations. Only one could control the direction HipHop was going, and Sadly the Corporations won took control and Now we got HipPop. The shit is like what happened with Rock in the 60's when the streets took it over were owning it then the Corporate systematically Bought Out Infiltrated and dismantled oall the Street movements behind the Music and we were left with the diluted disco pop rock that controlled the 70's. Same thing with HipHop the 9o's were to HipHop what the 60's were to Rock now for the uneducated go study up or stay with the droning indoctrination of the powers that be...Knowledge Leads to Wisdom which Aloows you to Understand and thus have Power over many things...
 
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CirocObama;3839625 said:
Nigga there's a differnce between a Waka etc and a party joint from back in the day. Shit even One More Chance was a party joint and the flow and lyrics was still on point and be having niggas quoting it til this day. It's that you should have SKILL in this game and work on your craft. It's like the nigga that goes to college and all that shit but here comes some nigga that gets the job just because they like his personality even though he has no education or skill other than that (exaggerating obviously). With R&B people demand that the artist at least can SING and/or DANCE, with Rock people demand that you actually can play an instrument/write songs if you're the lead but with rap niggas like OJ came came out talking about how they dont give a fuck about hip-hop and that they hustlers, that they dont work on their craft and only money and things like that and then have niggas out there saying "5t0p HaTiiNN h3 g3ttiN m0N3Y d03!" while the nigga who actually study and work on their craft gets shrugged off and you expect for people not to get upset?

Yea, cuz the times done changed and yall corny ass niggas is too engulfed in livin in the 90's that you don't even associate with human beings so you don't even know what people do these days, and the only difference is Waka from the south.

It's 2012 damn near, I ain't neva heard one more chance in the club, even if they did play it, it would be towards the beginning of the night while people sittin down sippin on they drink, that's more like social music instead of party music, on the other hand I'm Bout it, Bout it can still get play, matta fact as the last song of the night.

Fuck you need skill for, if you can't put together a decent song, with them wack ass, funeral music beats, and how you think southern rappers posed to rap, our sound calls for a bouncy, not so focused on using big, deep words type of flow, imagine Prodigy rappin over Tatts on my arm, trash o matic, vice versa with Gucci rappin over Temperture's rising, we different people.

OJ make good music, Joe Budden don't, and I wonder why he don't give a fuck bout hip hop, it's cuz of white boys like you with all these thesis, essay, superior hip hop thoughts, tryna tell somebody they ain't hip hop.

Your whole statement makes no sense and basically proves my point, you niggas is so out of touch with reality it's pitiful, it's just so many crackas like you on the internet and such a lack of niggas like me, that yall opinions seem to be reality, but when it comes to the real world, yall niggas don't even exist, what the fuck you talkin bout your craft and all this shit it ain't that serious, and then you sittin up this bitch talkin bout some "tape deck", lmaooooooooooooooooooooooo, it aint the 90's no more cuzzin, that shit gone.
 
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SwampNigga;3839940 said:
Yea, cuz the times done changed and yall corny ass niggas is too engulfed in livin in the 90's that you don't even associate with human beings so you don't even know what people do these days, and the only difference is Waka from the south.

It's 2012 damn near, I ain't neva heard one more chance in the club, even if they did play it, it would be towards the beginning of the night while people sittin down sippin on they drink, that's more like social music instead of party music, on the other hand I'm Bout it, Bout it can still get play, matta fact as the last song of the night.

Fuck you need skill for, if you can't put together a decent song, with them wack ass, funeral music beats, and how you think southern rappers posed to rap, our sound calls for a bouncy, not so focused on using big, deep words type of flow, imagine Prodigy rappin over Tatts on my arm, trash o matic, vice versa with Gucci rappin over Temperture's rising, we different people.

OJ make good music, Joe Budden don't, and I wonder why he don't give a fuck bout hip hop, it's cuz of white boys like you with all these thesis, essay, superior hip hop thoughts, tryna tell somebody they ain't hip hop.

Your whole statement makes no sense and basically proves my point, you niggas is so out of touch with reality it's pitiful, it's just so many crackas like you on the internet and such a lack of niggas like me, that yall opinions seem to be reality, but when it comes to the real world, yall niggas don't even exist, what the fuck you talkin bout your craft and all this shit it ain't that serious, and then you sittin up this bitch talkin bout some "tape deck", lmaooooooooooooooooooooooo, it aint the 90's no more cuzzin, that shit gone.

How don't Joe Budden make good music?
 
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SwampNigga;3839940 said:
Yea, cuz the times done changed and yall corny ass niggas is too engulfed in livin in the 90's that you don't even associate with human beings so you don't even know what people do these days, and the only difference is Waka from the south.

It's 2012 damn near, I ain't neva heard one more chance in the club, even if they did play it, it would be towards the beginning of the night while people sittin down sippin on they drink, that's more like social music instead of party music, on the other hand I'm Bout it, Bout it can still get play, matta fact as the last song of the night.

Fuck you need skill for, if you can't put together a decent song, with them wack ass, funeral music beats, and how you think southern rappers posed to rap, our sound calls for a bouncy, not so focused on using big, deep words type of flow, imagine Prodigy rappin over Tatts on my arm, trash o matic, vice versa with Gucci rappin over Temperture's rising, we different people.

OJ make good music, Joe Budden don't, and I wonder why he don't give a fuck bout hip hop, it's cuz of white boys like you with all these thesis, essay, superior hip hop thoughts, tryna tell somebody they ain't hip hop.

Your whole statement makes no sense and basically proves my point, you niggas is so out of touch with reality it's pitiful, it's just so many crackas like you on the internet and such a lack of niggas like me, that yall opinions seem to be reality, but when it comes to the real world, yall niggas don't even exist, what the fuck you talkin bout your craft and all this shit it ain't that serious, and then you sittin up this bitch talkin bout some "tape deck", lmaooooooooooooooooooooooo, it aint the 90's no more cuzzin, that shit gone.

nigga please. whatever the era- shitty music is shitty music and its not "real". skill matters otherwise the shit is not music- its just noise. and for the record, i hear one more chance in clubs globally. stupid niggas like stupid shit, i guess so to each his own.
 
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judahxulu;3839965 said:
nigga please. whatever the era- shitty music is shitty music and its not "real". skill matters otherwise the shit is not music- its just noise. and for the record, i hear one more chance in clubs globally. stupid niggas like stupid shit, i guess so to each his own.

And lame out of date niggas like lame out of date music, it's a vice versa for everything, fuck the word real, you don't even know what the fuck real is, it's all hip hop, just different types of hip hop, and real ain't the name of noun one dem muhfuckas.
 
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i swear some of yall niggas worse than tmz. he's a fucking 20 year old kid whos not scared of critics so hes says what he wants. if thats how he feels than thats what it is. and he's not a troll cuz he likes to joke around. he just having fun with his minor celebrity status, if i was in his position id be doing the same shit.
 
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judahxulu;3839974 said:
what makes o.j. the jewmans "music" good to your ears?

OJ new music is trash to ME, but his first 5 or 6 mixtapes was stupid ham, while yall was talkin like it was the worst shit you eva heard of, what made his music good was the fact that it was some hype shit, and just cuz it's hype don't mean it sound good neitha so get that out ya head, I don't know how to explain that to yall, yall niggas ain't nothin like regular black people, the majority of you muthafuckas ain't even black.
 
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And one more chance ain't no party music, that was some braggadocious, playa shit, talkin bout how many hoes he got, I doubt he made that song with a party in mind.
 
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Streets =/= Underground although most truly skilled artists that represent that real shit are currently Underground very few make it mainstream. There are plenty of so called Underground kats that are wanna be or undercover corporate tools and tyler whether he realizes it or not is one of them...
 
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