Epic grudge match: Slavery vs. Holocaust--

[LisaSimpson]

you can see many native americans depending on where you lived. like once i stayed in part of arizona and there were native americans all around. i'm not sure if they made up the majority of the population where i stayed, but i wouldn't be surprised

 

[fabionbackbitch]

Imagine if someone broke into your house and slaughtered your entire family. To make up for it, they let you set up a tent in the back yard while they leveled your home and turned it into a money factory. Then you start to complain, and they say "okay, okay, you don't have to pay rent anymore, and here's a poker set." Yeah...it would suck.

 

[garv]

Holocaust>>>indians>>>slavery..

Dont nothing top putting millions of people in a oven like they were cookies or somethin..

and yeah them indians got wiped out too but shit they got casinos and shit we dont have nothin

Over a hundred million Africans died before they even got to the Americas, getting tossed in a acidic ocean with open wounds only to get torn apart by a shark is just as bad.

 

[sickbizzle]

i'll take the Holocaust easily on this one because it was a systematic killing process, at least the Indians killings was through war and accident, more or less. as for slavery they tried to keep most healthy slaves alive as they were only valuable as healthy and able bodied, plus it was profitable to breed them. Holocaust was designed to kill every living jew, gypsy, slav, whatever.. no if ands or buts.. just straight genocide.

 

[playmaker88]

Over a hundred million Africans died before they even got to the Americas, getting tossed in a acidic ocean with open wounds only to get torn apart by a shark is just as bad.

400 years... Transatlantic slavery.. If people watched the movie Goodby Uncletom a whole lot of perspetives would be changed.. watch some docs.. and also read Complicity.. which i need to get around to my self.. Slavery has been damn near sanitized.. People just havea a minimal knowledge.. they know we were in shackles and thats it.. The jewish plight has been shoved down our throats. No hate to them but.. clearly if they would have given the plight of the transatlantic slavery.. people would understand and have a better appreciation to where they are at now

 

[sickbizzle]

^^ no doubt. but of course the main reason is because the Holocaust happened in modern times - 20th century, post-industrial revolution. it's more clearly documented with a lot of media images and survivors living to this day that can still talk about it. hell they're still out there putting ex-Nazis on trial, shit's not even a lifetime ago yet.

 

[playmaker88]

^^ no doubt. but of course the main reason is because the Holocaust happened in modern times - 20th century, post-industrial revolution. it's more clearly documented with a lot of media images and survivors living to this day that can still talk about it. hell they're still out there putting ex-Nazis on trial, shit's not even a lifetime ago yet.

I agree thats basically what my initial post meant.. comparing two atrocities.. its not something that should be a competition. at all..

On another note to me more current after 1863.... specifically the 50's through 68' ppl forget and dont want anyone to bring that up.. because.. that was the past...

 

[Mdizzle9000]

jews had it coming

 

[Tha Chop]

jews had it coming

rofl. damn.

 

[Ibex]

jews had it coming

This is true

 

[looier]

That's a little mean. I guess We could call you a "racist," huh?

Or a dummy?

You sound no better than those GD Nazis out there. But, of course you don't read and probably never seen the REAL photos of the Holocaust, so I'll bet your knowledge of WW2 is "Hogan's Heroes" re-runs and Schindler's List?

Shut the F up, fool.

 

[Alkindus]

the holocaust is 'just' a minor part of what happened during the business called the slave trade. Like in todays world, people witnessed 9-11 and claim how crazy that shit was, don't realize the impact the thousand clusterbombs dropped on iraq had. Just because 1 got a shitload of media attention, doesn't mean it overtakes the shit that got way less attention. So, what you call the holocaust is in reality one aspect of the slave trade...how awful that may sound.

I would also like to stress that the only ones who feel connected to such things are insecure/identity crisis having individuels(which do not realze it themselves) that believe in somekind of twisted view of human diversity/race and how their illusions still resemble their life today. Carrying around crosses that might have been thrown on them by the lies of others, but is kept on their back by themselves. Slavery was a business, study the Mali empire, we traded only are most uneducated slaves, sometimes we gave you an educated one for another highly educated one which appearance was rare in the region(like franks slaves). Before, during and after the 'holocaust' people who have been calling themselves 'jews' have slaughtered many people, exploited many trades and to this day set prices of markets which keep people poor(diamondtrade) and put people in chains of poverty and inequality(Israel/palestine). the fuck people believing in race and heritage for? what does it have to do with You.?

 

[northside7]

the holocaust is 'just' a minor part of what happened during the business called the slave trade. Like in todays world, people witnessed 9-11 and claim how crazy that shit was, don't realize the impact the thousand clusterbombs dropped on iraq had. Just because 1 got a shitload of media attention, doesn't mean it overtakes the shit that got way less attention. So, what you call the holocaust is in reality one aspect of the slave trade...how awful that may sound.

I would also like to stress that the only ones who feel connected to such things are insecure/identity crisis having individuels(which do not realze it themselves) that believe in somekind of twisted view of human diversity/race and how their illusions still resemble their life today. Carrying around crosses that might have been thrown on them by the lies of others, but is kept on their back by themselves. Slavery was a business, study the Mali empire, we traded only are most uneducated slaves, sometimes we gave you an educated one for another highly educated one which appearance was rare in the region(like franks slaves). Before, during and after the 'holocaust' people who have been calling themselves 'jews' have slaughtered many people, exploited many trades and to this day set prices of markets which keep people poor(diamondtrade) and put people in chains of poverty and inequality(Israel/palestine). the fuck people believing in race and heritage for? what does it have to do with You.?

Thats one of the reasons jews were turned on. A number of Germans were poor, hungry and out of work after WW1 and before WW2, Hitler say the jews as being the reason why Germans and the country were in that state of poverty, seeing as jews owned a number of businesses and banks and prefered to operate with their own kind. Jews had a lot of financial power and prosperity in Germany after WW1.

 

[Chef_Taylor]

i got the holocaust

that shit was gruesome

and slavery wasnt??? people thinkin blacks were just being hung back then....black people were killed all kind of ways back then.Other then the indians bein nearly wiped off the face of the earth no other race of people has had it worse then africans/african americans.

 

[Ounceman]

How about turning the tides and placing the finger on who was hugely responsible for the holocaust, slavery, and the native american trail of tears: the cracker

 

[good_aim]

every non black gonna ride 4 the jews i bet end of day millions upon millions was taken kidnapped familes split up put in chains live like an animal whipped women raped bet u they wud of loved to go ou like the jews then b treated like animals imgine ur women getting rapped or ur child getting sold of n taken from u daaaam. so i say the jews where lucky ....n only few yrs ago blacks allowed to vote dammm but white still say jews had it bad...they got a nation of there own a homeland what have blacks got usa u joking me right jews also got paid what about blacks nothing we had it bad worse than anyone....id rather get killed then treated like an animal anyday

 

[Chef_Taylor]

how about turning the tides and placing the finger on who was hugely responsible for the holocaust, slavery, and the native american trail of tears: The cracker

close thread

 

[maxxb]

How about turning the tides and placing the finger on who was hugely responsible for the holocaust, slavery, and the native american trail of tears: the cracker

I agree but not. What about all the other races? Idi Amin? He used his own people as alligator food. Pol Pot? Killed millions. What about the people in countries and areas where they have to worry about how many people will rape them that day, or which finger will be gone by nightfall? Who's a cracker over there?

This is a human race issue, not a cultural one.

 

[kingblaze84]

Native Americans got it the worst.....no competition. Whites straight jacked their whole land, it's really crazy how bad they got it....at least Africa is ruled by black presidents.

Slavery to me was worst than the Holocaust, but not by too much.....for a whole people to get killed off the way Jews were was crazy. Slavery, however, was more cruel because it lasted for hundreds of years (with some African support, shameful but true).

In the end though, Native Americans got it worst than anybody. Yeah, SOME tribes have casinos but most don't. Out of all homeless people, most I see are black, but Native Americans really don't even exist in America no more. Very shameful what whites did to them.

 

[kingblaze84]

every non black gonna ride 4 the jews i bet end of day millions upon millions was taken kidnapped familes split up put in chains live like an animal whipped women raped bet u they wud of loved to go ou like the jews then b treated like animals imgine ur women getting rapped or ur child getting sold of n taken from u daaaam. so i say the jews where lucky ....n only few yrs ago blacks allowed to vote dammm but white still say jews had it bad...they got a nation of there own a homeland what have blacks got usa u joking me right jews also got paid what about blacks nothing we had it bad worse than anyone....id rather get killed then treated like an animal anyday

You need to do some research on what happend to Native Americans.....and at least blacks have Africa and the Caribbean, the Native Americans have reservations and casinos. And before you mention how poor Africa is, I admit it is, but things are definitely getting better there. Here's a good article Newsweek wrote awhile ago.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/233501?obref=obinsite