LOL @ people derailing the Thread bringing up Tupac. 2nd, I'm not shocked the typical Biggie haters stay talking about him and bringing no facts. To say Biggie wasn't famous outside of Music is pretty false and that he only became a Legend cause of his beef with Pac is false also. Sure the Pac beef is apart of Both of their Legends but Biggie was famous and blew out the gate. Pac took a longer time. Biggie was Platinum artist before Pac was and I proved this in another thread based on RIAA Certifications. "Ready to Die" went Platinum before any Pac album did. Sure Biggie's Legend grew after his death, well guess what, so did Pac so that cuts both ways. Pac was more famous than Biggie of course cause Biggie was a NEW artist just getting started. I mean he did die on his 2nd LP. Pac was on his 5th LP at the time of his death.
Also Pac was just getting started in movies. He wasn't a full fledge "MOVIE STAR" yet. None of Tupac's movies were Box Office hits including "Poetic Justice" and that had Janet in it. Sure they are Classics to the Black Community but they were not again big at the Box Office but compared to their budgets they did make money. But Pac was headed in the right direction. So to the lames saying Biggie was pushed by the "Machine" as if Biggie was a marketing Dream. Biggie was a marketing nightmare and Clive Davis even wasn't sold on Biggie. Puff was the one that really believed he could be Big.
At the end of the day, Biggie was HUGE before his death. Biggie was featured on Micheal Jackson's LP "HIStory" in 1995. That album sold 40 Million copies around the world. He was on major prime time shows like "Martin" and "New York Undercover". As well as performing on "The Tonight Show". He was on movie soundtracks like "Bad Boys". The fact the Biggie haters fail to understand is again Biggie was AT THE BEGINNING OF HIS CAREER and look what he accomplished. I mean 2 years after you sign a deal and you are on Michael Jackson album. And you lames don't see how Big he was?. Again Pac was more famous than Big but to say Biggie only blew cause of the Pac beef is the lamest thing I've heard. If anything all the controversy helped Pac's sales cause again he wasn't a Platinum artist before Biggie.
Now Eminem is not better than Biggie Lyrically. Lady Luck is entitled to her opinion but Biggie is one of the most INFLUENTIAL LYRICIST of all time. To be that influential means you changed the game. Rapper have bitten bar after bar from Biggie. I don't see many rappers sampling Eminem lyrics on that level in the future. He will get sampled but not on the level of Biggie. Also the perfect example why Eminem is not better Biggie is "Dead Wrong" the song some try to say Eminem oushinned Biggie on. LOL. Here's what I said about the callabo in another post:
rapmastermind;320550 said:
Eminem sonning Biggie? That's where this thread lost creditbility. Yes Eminem is a beast on features but he didn't son an 1993 rookie Biggie. Biggie BODIED "Dead Wrong" he had 2 verses. His presence and flow alone outshined Eminem. His storytelling was more real and believeable. Eminem was on some fantasy devil worshipping shit. Em's verse was dope, no doubt but you'd be hard press to find anyone putting Eminem over Biggie on that track. Matter of fact I could listen to Dead Wrong without Eminem verse just fine, I can't listen to Dead Wrong with just Eminem without Biggie, see the difference?. Also This callabo was a "Cut and Paste". 97 Biggie > 93 Biggie so again it's a joke you are using this as an example of Eminem sonning someone.
When I listen to "Dead Wrong" it only accents to me why Biggie is better lyrically. Biggie flow and wordplay was so effortless, it was so natural. As soon as he said "Relax and take notes, while I take totes of the marijuana smoke" he had every rap fan at Hello. Em verse as dope as it was still didn't outshine the aura and presence of Biggie. And that was a 1993 throwaway verse that never made an album until after he died. Now Technically yes Eminem does more with words than Biggie did. Em is like a rapping Dictionary. At the same time what makes Biggie better lyrically was his ability to get more out of less. Biggie didn't need to spit a dictionary cause his descriptive bars were so visual. Now here are 3 examples of Biggie using "Hot and Cold":
"No heat, wonder why Christmas missed us"
On the surface he's just saying that he was so broke he didn't have heat or celebrated Christmas. But with saying "No Heat" and then bringing up "Why did Christmas missed us" it's a play on words to the fact that Christmas happens in the Winter, where it is cold, thus the line "No Heat" so Biggie ponders if it's cold, how did we miss Christmas. Big was able to fit several meanings into his bars. Or this bar:
"I Chill the heat doesn't, ran up in your shell about a dozen"
The way he uses hot and cold in this rhyme is brilliant. Than he talks about a gun shell but it's also referring to a dozen eggs (Shell about a dozen) as everyone knows Eggs must be stored in the refrigerator which is (Chill).
Here's another example of Hot and Cold:
"Who the Fuck wanna squeeze, my desert ease makes emcees freeze, you waking up in cold sweats they just dreams"
Desert Eagle is a gun but the Desert is hot. His gun makes emcees Freeze (Cold). But he's saying they are just dreaming about him cause they fear him. But by saying "Cold Sweats" he's bring up it hot and cold again. Sweat cools the body when it's Temperature is up.
So those are just 3 examples of Big's dope lyricism and how he used "hot and cold" as metaphors. Eminem is dope lyrically not doubt and he does do somethings better than Big lyrically. But overall, he's not a better lyricist than Big.
