East Coast Tell Us Why U Mad Son!Interview with Method Man,Raekwon,and Ghostface

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these suppose to be legends and these cats going on sirius and other radio shows catching feelings because the south aint putting out albums they would play.hell niggaz downsouth didnt have a choice at all to listen to eastcoast music cause that is what was playin all the time on the radio.when niggaz aint eating you gonna get bitchy about the south is this and that.It's a damn shame niggaz wasting time with this BS
 
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guess these cats cant come up with anything other than they hating...these 3 have all enjoyed platinum and gold success and still tour around the world lol what is there to hate...the average rap career is prolly shorter than 5 years you cant expect a group of cats that came out in 93 to still be at the forefront thats crazy but with that said wacka said what he said and they saying they piece cats gotta come up with something other than they hating that shyt is getting old lol i dont like his shyt so i guess im mad that he getting money lol
 
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a_list;226734 said:
guess these cats cant come up with anything other than they hating...these 3 have all enjoyed platinum and gold success and still tour around the world lol what is there to hate...the average rap career is prolly shorter than 5 years you cant expect a group of cats that came out in 93 to still be at the forefront thats crazy but with that said wacka said what he said and they saying they piece cats gotta come up with something other than they hating that shyt is getting old lol i dont like his shyt so i guess im mad that he getting money lol

CoSign................
 
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a_list;226734 said:
guess these cats cant come up with anything other than they hating...these 3 have all enjoyed platinum and gold success and still tour around the world lol what is there to hate...the average rap career is prolly shorter than 5 years you cant expect a group of cats that came out in 93 to still be at the forefront thats crazy but with that said wacka said what he said and they saying they piece cats gotta come up with something other than they hating that shyt is getting old lol i dont like his shyt so i guess im mad that he getting money lol

exactly.....let other folks shine,you had your chance to make big noise which yall did.People trying to eat and shine like yall did in your days.Hating on the south is only digging a deeper and deeper hole in your legacy
 
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Yung_Souf_Money;226844 said:
exactly.....let other folks shine,you had your chance to make big noise which yall did.People trying to eat and shine like yall did in your days.Hating on the south is only digging a deeper and deeper hole in your legacy

are they hating because they dont like it or are the hating because they voiced their displeasure for his music thats what i cant understand nowhere in that interview did they say we hate that shyt and no one should support it i heard them say that the south has some real spitters too so they aint hating (as u say) on the whole south..in this instance they are talking about a couple wack rappers and when they say wack they mean basic rhymes...true enough people do enjoy that shyt ...hell a couple shots of henny and a phat ass would make me dance to the shyt but he's wack ..stop all this yall shyt too because you aint shinin and i aint lol what is it down there the rappers and fans are just one big cummunity lol..i think you need to seperate yourself from these rappers homie wat they eat dont make you shyt and what they sell dont make u rich....let that marinate
 
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Damn, ya'll niggas really have low comprehensional abilities. For the last time, the Wu niggas were not hating on Wacka Flaka. They clearly didn't even know who the fuck he was. They were responding to what he said.
 
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The Lonious Monk;226895 said:
Damn, ya'll niggas really have low comprehensional abilities. For the last time, the Wu niggas were not hating on Wacka Flaka. They clearly didn't even know who the fuck he was. They were responding to what he said.

they not gonna understand........
 
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Man, I can't believe I'm saying this about a nigga name Wacka Flaka, but I respect that dude now. I just listened to his response and I gotta say he's one of the realest people out there. I'm not going to say I agree with everything he said, but the way he presented his side and the way he tried to be the bigger man rather than just talking a bunch of shit like most people would is impressive.

I still think he's taking things wrong though. He shouldn't be looking at it as an attack on him. He said Meth should play that Godfather role and school the younger cats. Well, that's how he should have taken Meth's rant. When you getting schooled, not everything is what you're going to want to hear. The fact is, if he is going to be a Hip Hop artist, he should put work into his craft. He doesn't have to be the best lyricist in the world, but he should think lyrics are important enough to put effort into improving them. That's really all Meth said. He did have a good point though. A lot of people praise the foundation of Hip Hop, but forget that the Southern Hip Hop of today is more like the roots than most of what is considered "real" hip hop. Granted things should evolve and that's why I think mid 90's rap is the best. Still, it is a little contradictory for people to keep claiming that simple rap meant for partying and dancing isn't real Hip Hop when that's how Hip Hop started.
 
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The Lonious Monk;245757 said:
Man, I can't believe I'm saying this about a nigga name Wacka Flaka, but I respect that dude now. I just listened to his response and I gotta say he's one of the realest people out there. I'm not going to say I agree with everything he said, but the way he presented his side and the way he tried to be the bigger man rather than just talking a bunch of shit like most people would is impressive.

I still think he's taking things wrong though. He shouldn't be looking at it as an attack on him. He said Meth should play that Godfather role and school the younger cats. Well, that's how he should have taken Meth's rant. When you getting schooled, not everything is what you're going to want to hear. The fact is, if he is going to be a Hip Hop artist, he should put work into his craft. He doesn't have to be the best lyricist in the world, but he should think lyrics are important enough to put effort into improving them. That's really all Meth said. He did have a good point though. A lot of people praise the foundation of Hip Hop, but forget that the Southern Hip Hop of today is more like the roots than most of what is considered "real" hip hop. Granted things should evolve and that's why I think mid 90's rap is the best. Still, it is a little contradictory for people to keep claiming that simple rap meant for partying and dancing isn't real Hip Hop when that's how Hip Hop started.




not reallyh..........it the 80's, the Style of Rap they was kickin Was Still about lyrics. that was wat was considered nice back then. AS the game evolved so did the lyrical Style. it was always About "being the best" or "kickin the illest ryhme" even when they was doin all the party shit.............thats how the term "MC" came around (regarding to hiphop) MC's move the crowd............Its about Progress.........Alot of the old Legends WOuld tell u that
 
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tri3w;246147 said:
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not reallyh..........it the 80's, the Style of Rap they was kickin Was Still about lyrics. that was wat was considered nice back then. AS the game evolved so did the lyrical Style. it was always About "being the best" or "kickin the illest ryhme" even when they was doin all the party shit.............thats how the term "MC" came around (regarding to hiphop) MC's move the crowd............Its about Progress.........Alot of the old Legends WOuld tell u that

Come on now, a lot of that party rap was just party rap. It wasn't extremely lyrical, and the average party rap song today isn't any less lyrical than the ones back then. Hell, til this day Rappers Delight is still held in high regard and that shit is not super lyrical. Run DMC are considered legends and I'm sorry but they are not lyrical either. I agree that rap and lyrics have evloved since then, and I'm not saying that the rap of today is great or even good. I'm just saying that you can't take a style that is a throw back to the roots of Hip Hop and say it's not real Hip Hop.

Let's make this clear. I'm not defend modern rap music. Honestly, I hate it, but I also don't care for that early 80s rap either. They are pretty much the same thing to me.
 
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The Lonious Monk;246222 said:
Come on now, a lot of that party rap was just party rap. It wasn't extremely lyrical, and the average party rap song today isn't any less lyrical than the ones back then. Hell, til this day Rappers Delight is still held in high regard and that shit is not super lyrical. Run DMC are considered legends and I'm sorry but they are not lyrical either. I agree that rap and lyrics have evloved since then, and I'm not saying that the rap of today is great or even good. I'm just saying that you can't take a style that is a throw back to the roots of Hip Hop and say it's not real Hip Hop.

Let's make this clear. I'm not defend modern rap music. Honestly, I hate it, but I also don't care for that early 80s rap either. They are pretty much the same thing to me.

I agree. between "oletsdoit," "all the way turned up" & "lemonade?" everything fresh to the late 80's-90's babies is very sing songy nursery rhymish.
 
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The Lonious Monk;246222 said:
Come on now, a lot of that party rap was just party rap. It wasn't extremely lyrical, and the average party rap song today isn't any less lyrical than the ones back then. Hell, til this day Rappers Delight is still held in high regard and that shit is not super lyrical. Run DMC are considered legends and I'm sorry but they are not lyrical either. I agree that rap and lyrics have evloved since then, and I'm not saying that the rap of today is great or even good. I'm just saying that you can't take a style that is a throw back to the roots of Hip Hop and say it's not real Hip Hop.

Let's make this clear. I'm not defend modern rap music. Honestly, I hate it, but I also don't care for that early 80s rap either. They are pretty much the same thing to me.

But the difference is that lyrics evolved and got better as times change....those simple party raps of the early and mid 80 were considered nice in those days because the game hadn't evolved yet.....

Aight lemme put it like this, let's in couple of years Microsoft releases Windows '12.....you buy it and find out that it's very similar to Windows 95...how would feel about that? People would call that shit garbage! Sure, it was nice in 1995, but the program has mad a ton of progress since then. Same with hip hop, the party lyrics were okay back then, but lyrical skills made program in the late 80s through the late 90s, but the regressed back to the 80s in the '00s. That's the problem people have with club songs nowadays.
 
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I see what you're trying to say, but I don't think it's true. Using your own type of analogy, a new Office software just came out. Our company upgraded to that. Some people like all the new features and options. Some people would be happy to give those up to go back to the old Office because they were more familiar with it and it was easier for them to use. Music is the same way. Yes lyricism has evolved and a lot of Hip Hop fans appreciate that. However, it can't be denied that there are Hip Hop fans out there who preferred the more simplistic party rap. So the stuff that comes out today is still going to be welcome to them even if it isn't as refined as some of the other styles.

I've said it before, the fact that this party and simple rap exists isn't the real problem. The problem is that it is the only thing that is marketed strongly. There is no parity right now. If you had your Gucci Manes and Soulja Boys out there but also had people of other types being given shine, it would be all good. That's not what's going on though, and that's why music sucks.
 
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The Lonious Monk;246222 said:
Come on now, a lot of that party rap was just party rap. It wasn't extremely lyrical, and the average party rap song today isn't any less lyrical than the ones back then. Hell, til this day Rappers Delight is still held in high regard and that shit is not super lyrical. Run DMC are considered legends and I'm sorry but they are not lyrical either. I agree that rap and lyrics have evloved since then, and I'm not saying that the rap of today is great or even good. I'm just saying that you can't take a style that is a throw back to the roots of Hip Hop and say it's not real Hip Hop.

Let's make this clear. I'm not defend modern rap music. Honestly, I hate it, but I also don't care for that early 80s rap either. They are pretty much the same thing to me.

*sigh*..................ur missing the point.............that style was the Lyrical Watermark of the time. Do We Find it lyrical??? No, Hell No, But back then they did. And they progessed from that.............Niggas Was Goin Crazy when the First Heard the sugar hill gang, they thought they was nice. No, this Shit they callin "Rap" isnt from the Roots of hiphop. Dudes progressed from that

sidenote: they was Waaaaaay lyrical than alot of Rappers nowadays lol............im sorry lol
 
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tri3w;249524 said:
*sigh*..................ur missing the point.............that style was the Lyrical Watermark of the time. Do We Find it lyrical??? No, Hell No, But back then they did. And they progessed from that.............Niggas Was Goin Crazy when the First Heard the sugar hill gang, they thought they was nice. No, this Shit they callin "Rap" isnt from the Roots of hiphop. Dudes progressed from that

sidenote: they was Waaaaaay lyrical than alot of Rappers nowadays lol............im sorry lol

I get your point perfectly. You're missing my point. I have acknowledged more than once that lyricism has progressed since then. However, that fact doesn't retroactively make it so that the previous style of music is not Hip Hop anymore. That would be like saying that since the official rules of basketball have changed over the years, if you go out and play a simple pick up game without adhering to all those rules then you're not really playing basketball anymore. That's not the case. There are plenty of different leagues and rulesets and the game is still basketball in all of them. The same goes in rap. There are plenty of subgenres and each may have different priorities but they are still rap. That party music from Sugar Hill Gang to Kid-n-Play is still Hip Hop. And music today that maintains that mold is still Hip Hop.
 
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Why can't a nigga like both? Why can't I like Fish Scale and The State V. Radric (w/e that nigga last name is) Why? I like 'em both. This nigga actin' like niggas listen to the same shti ALL the time. I listen to Gucci when I'm ridin' or some shit. If I got a long trip, I'll throw on some Hov.
 
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