East Coast Tell Us Why U Mad Son!Interview with Method Man,Raekwon,and Ghostface

[ItzGravitation]

LMAO @ u comparing the classic shit from the West Coast to the garbage these southern niggaz be makin.

shit aint garbage

niggas is just hating

whats garbage about it?

doesnt it serve its purpose?

its good Hip Hop and niggas diggin it

but you got your lame/corny/wack niggas like you who love to hate on ppl

 

[dr. zero_ahh]

shit aint garbage
niggas is just hating
whats garbage about it?
doesnt it serve its purpose?
its good Hip Hop and niggas diggin it
but you got your lame/corny/wack niggas like you who love to hate on ppl

Good Southern Hip-Hop = Scarface, K-Rino, Chamillionaire, Cunninglynguists, Little Brother, Outkast, Dungeon Family, Field Mob, Cee-Lo, Z-Ro, Bun-B, Juvenile (don't sleep on Project English)
Bad Southern Hip-Hop = Jeezy, OJ the Juiceman, Gucci Man, Wacka Flocka Flame, Soulja Boi, Lil Wayne

See the difference?

 

[ItzGravitation]

Good Southern Hip-Hop = Scarface, K-Rino, Chamillionaire, Cunninglynguists, Little Brother, Outkast, Dungeon Family, Field Mob, Cee-Lo, Z-Ro, Bun-B, Juvenile (don't sleep on Project English)

Bad Southern Hip-Hop = Jeezy, OJ the Juiceman, Gucci Man, Wacka Flocka Flame, Soulja Boi, Lil Wayne

See the difference?

Jeezy and Wayne make good Hip Hop

Gucci make Ok hip hop

you niggas is robots. nigga aint tryna hear a nigga spit a dictionary on the track

we want something real. something we can feel

thats real Hip Hop

not none of that i'm a super lyricist bullshit

 

[dr. zero_ahh]

Jeezy and Wayne make good Hip Hop
Gucci make Ok hip hop
you niggas is robots. nigga aint tryna hear a nigga spit a dictionary on the track
we want something real. something we can feel
thats real Hip Hop
not none of that i'm a super lyricist bullshit

Jeezy has made repetitive, tired, boring music which has been saved by adlibs and production. Lil Wayne is nothing more than a watered down NY punchline rapper with similes that do not even make sense. Gucci is just plain terrible. The artists I mentioned do not "spit dictionaries" on their tracks. Where is the medium in the new South artists? Does it have to be brainless trash like a Jeezy or a Gucci Mane and Flocka? I'm not saying those guys don't have a place, but they should not be grouped as serious artists when they've admitted they are not that. The problem is, you hear more of the Jeezy/Gucci style ad nauseam and it gets old. Oh, but when it's other artists "spitting dictionaries all the time," you guys bitch and moan about that, but don't bitch and moan about the repetitiveness of Jeezy and Gucci. Contradictory standard for the loss

 

[G.R.I.P. Money $$$]

dis is y kno one likes the east coast no mo...y cant they be like dipset and fab and stop cryin....

 

[dookeyface]

I'll say that today's music, when you talk of the South, is catchy, but they miss out on the other very important element which is the lyrics. Perfect example is Naughty By Nature, who basically created/crafted "the anthem". The type of song that when it's played in the club, will get people dancing, can be played on the radio 100 times, and so on. But take a look at their "anthems". O.P.P. It was not only catchy, but lyrically:

A) Made sense (meaning you could understand what was said), and was a story you could follow/relate to.

B) Lyrically, was on point. Wasn't crazy deep lyrical like a Canibus freestyle, but that's not what the song called for.

C) Will/can be played today (almost 20 years later), and has the same effect it did when it was released.

The same can be said for Hip Hop Hooray, and to a lesser extent in terms of playability, Uptown Anthem, & Craziest.

When you get 20 years down the line, will anyone remember, or will any of this so-called "Southern" music have the same impact as that? And when I say "Southern" music I'm referring to a song like Gucci Mane's - Freaky Gurl, and these type of songs. No, it won't because although it may have made a few people dance, what is being SAID in the record is not memorable, and leaves no impressions/has no impact.

Make no mistake, I love some "Southern" artist (OutKast, Luda, T.I., Scarface, to name a few), but the majority of cats from this region don't have it with the pen....I mean thought game. Which is another thing, these artist now brag "I don't even write rhymes, I just go in the booth and spit". Well pity for you if you had to write that simplistic shit. The only rappers that can lay claim to the "off the top of the head in the booth" that have publicly stated that this is their method of recording, that are any good at it, is Jay-Z, BIG (RIP), & Jadakiss/Styles P. The rest need to grab a pen/pad, and put some thought into the shit they wanna say, or continue to be mediocre lyricist.

 

[ItzGravitation]

Jeezy has made repetitive, tired, boring music which has been saved by adlibs and production. Lil Wayne is nothing more than a watered down NY punchline rapper with similes that do not even make sense. Gucci is just plain terrible. The artists I mentioned do not "spit dictionaries" on their tracks. Where is the medium in the new South artists? Does it have to be brainless trash like a Jeezy or a Gucci Mane and Flocka? I'm not saying those guys don't have a place, but they should not be grouped as serious artists when they've admitted they are not that. The problem is, you hear more of the Jeezy/Gucci style ad nauseam and it gets old. Oh, but when it's other artists "spitting dictionaries all the time," you guys bitch and moan about that, but don't bitch and moan about the repetitiveness of Jeezy and Gucci. Contradictory standard for the loss

you may not like it but millions of people do

quit bitching and complaining and do something

Jeezy >>>>95%NY rappers

i like music i can feel not music that puts me to sleep

other artists need to step they game upand quit hating and geeting mad cuz they aint getting no play or sales

 

[ItzGravitation]

I'll say that today's music, when you talk of the South, is catchy, but they miss out on the other very important element which is the lyrics. Perfect example is Naughty By Nature, who basically created/crafted "the anthem". The type of song that when it's played in the club, will get people dancing, can be played on the radio 100 times, and so on. But take a look at their "anthems". O.P.P. It was not only catchy, but lyrically:

A) Made sense (meaning you could understand what was said), and was a story you could follow/relate to.

B) Lyrically, was on point. Wasn't crazy deep lyrical like a Canibus freestyle, but that's not what the song called for.

C) Will/can be played today (almost 20 years later), and has the same effect it did when it was released.

The same can be said for Hip Hop Horray, and to a lesser extent in terms of playability, Uptown Anthem, & Craziest.

When you get 20 years down the line, will anyone remember, or will any of this so-called "Southern" music have the same impact as that? And when I say "Southern" music I'm referring to a song like Gucci Mane's - Freaky Gurl, and these type of songs. No, it won't because although it may have made a few people dance, what is being SAID in the record is not memorable, and leaves no impressions/has no impact.

Make no mistake, I love some "Southern" artist (OutKast, Luda, T.I., Scarface, to name a few), but the majority of cats from this region don't have it with the pen....I mean thought game. Which is another thing, these artist now brag "I don't even write rhymes, I just go in the booth and spit". Well pity for you if you had to write that simplistic shit. The only rappers that can lay claim to the "off the top of the head in the booth" that have publicly stated that this is their method of recording, that are any good at it, is Jay-Z, BIG (RIP), & Jadakiss/Styles P. The rest need to grab a pen/pad, and put some thought into the shit they wanna say, or continue to be mediocre lyricist.

nigga aint nobody jaming OPP today

they'll jam Freaky Gurl before that garbage

gtfoh with that nonsense

 

[dr. zero_ahh]

you may not like it but millions of people do
quit bitching and complaining and do something
Jeezy >>>>95%NY rappers
i like music i can feel not music that puts me to sleep
other artists need to step they game upand quit hating and geeting mad cuz they aint getting no play or sales

So if millions of people became fans of self-mutilation, you'd defend that too? Simply because the majority agrees with it does not make it right. Another factor you didn't think of is Payola. People are force-fed repeatedly the same 10 songs on many radio stations across the nation. If played ad nauseam, some people will begin to like it. That's why it is called "repetition." Add to that, we are in an era where many people don't like to think for themselves and are slaves to what mainstream culture says. That also added to the rise of this wackness. Jeezy is only better in selling. As far as anything that actually COUNTS, he's wack. That's just the truth. They're not hating because they have a different point of view. You all are just sensitive.

 

[G.R.I.P. Money $$$]

just give it up fam, ur arguments useless unless ur really makin better music than the south, which ur not...

 

[5th Letter]

I have been saying this for years, the south support their wack rappers and if you say anything then you are "hating".

 

[dookeyface]

nigga aint nobody jaming OPP today

they'll jam Freaky Gurl before that garbage

gtfoh with that nonsense

So what your sayin' is if OPP came on in a club full of people tonight, the dance floor would be cleared, and nobody would be singing the lyrics? You make no sense whatsoever.

 

[nujerz84]

I have been saying this for years, the south support their wack rappers and if you say anything then you are "hating".

Then they quick to bring up Chicken Noodle Soup that shit was like 3 or 4 yrs ago that chick aint made a song since and no one plays that song. DJ Webstar and Ron Browz are a wrap they aint selling no fucking records and the little records they do sell is from southern niggaz and subruban white kids NYC doesnt support that shit, yet its the same constant garbage from the same garbage niggaz from the south making bullshit music.

 

[ItzGravitation]

So what your sayin' is if OPP came on in a club full of people tonight, the dance floor would be cleared, and nobody would be singing the lyrics? You make no sense whatsoever.

you assuming dude

but more ppl would be on the floor for freaky gurl than opp

 

[ItzGravitation]

Then they quick to bring up Chicken Noodle Soup that shit was like 3 or 4 yrs ago that chick aint made a song since and no one plays that song. DJ Webstar and Ron Browz are a wrap they aint selling no fucking records and the little records they do sell is from southern niggaz and subruban white kids NYC doesnt support that shit, yet its the same constant garbage from the same garbage niggaz from the south making bullshit music.

we aint buying that shit down here

we dont fuck with imitating NY niggas

 

[dookeyface]

you assuming dude

but more ppl would be on the floor for freaky gurl than opp

No, your assuming. I know for a fact OPP, which did I mention (yes I did) was almost 20 years old still moves rumps. The question is (now I am assuming) would Freaky Gurl be doin' the same thing in 20 yrs. More than likely..NOT.

 

[G.R.I.P. Money $$$]

y wont the east coast just make better music instead of cryin bout the souf...

 

[nujerz84]

y wont the east coast just make better music instead of cryin bout the souf...

We already do, Im asking why the south doesnt make better music and why you niggaz are quick to support garbage.

 

[ItzGravitation]

No, your assuming. I know for a fact OPP, which did I mention (yes I did) was almost 20 years old still moves rumps. The question is (now I am assuming) would Freaky Gurl be doin' the same thing in 20 yrs. More than likely..NOT.

it will though

freaky gurls will still be around 20 years from now

 

[ItzGravitation]

We already do, Im asking why the south doesnt make better music and why you niggaz are quick to support garbage.

its not good enough

no radio play=bullshit

step yall single game up