East Coast: How does it make you feel...?

[JokerzWyld]

*Dead* What the fuck are you talking about? Jada? The Lox? Joe Budden? STOP just STOP! I can see if we were in 97-00 but now? Jada had to go to a ATL DJ(Drama) to put out that garbage ass Champ Is Here. Lox MIA. Joe "Shouldve Ducked" Button is a one hit wonder. To be relevant nowday YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE SOUTH. Ask Fat Joe. The south has more than Wayne so cut the crap just turn on your radio. Matter of fact you in DC with me so WKYS it up. And dont get it twisted back in the day I showed love to the east Wu Tang was my shit and I am from Memphis. So keep it 100 east coast cant do a fucking thing if the South is not involved in some way. Ask Fab and Nikki Minaj.

The bold says it all. Drake is in the top 10 songs played on Hot 97 3 times and he's affiliated with *drum roll please* Young Money. Nicki Minaj had a number one single on the Billboard by herself, not to mention the songs she was featured on, and Wayne was on hit songs this year while in jail. Jay Electronica's "Exhibit A" is better than Nicki Minaj's album but it didn't get half as much play or hype as Nicki did. The radio doesn't play "Who Dat" by J. Cole as much as they play "Fancy" or "Ashton Martin Music". You use Fat Joe as an example and i don't even think his last album has sold 100,000 copies the whole year yet, but I'm Not A Human Being sold more the first and second weeks and is on pace to go Gold/Platinum. You ethered yourself in your own post with your limited research.

Joe Budden has one of the best mixtapes this year that is more like an album than a mixtape. Lloyd Banks has released a better album than anyone on YM this year. Oh and by the way, you are wrong, you have to go to the midwest to be relevant. GOOD music is on pace to eclipse Young Money next year in quality of music and perhaps sales. SMH @ you actually believing that going south will help these guys careers, as if you forgot about J. Cole, Jay Elect, Cyhi The Prince running to Jay-Z and Kanye respectively. ROFL

 

[BackInWhite]

Dbl Cosign. i remember when there were different lanes in rap music (party, lyrical, street) now we compare all of them and its dumb as hell.. back in the day you had 69 boyz, 95 South, Luke, etc and they had there lane. Nowadays Gucci getting analyzed and compared to JayZ..

you niggas might be on to something
i swear i've seen "Jamacia" do this
a nigga will drop a song in a thread
some random party/club song
and he'll drop oochie wally and be like, "it can be done in a way that's still lyrical and good"
and a nigga will be like, bruh......oochie wally is wack
and he'll go home and cry into his beef jerky collection

 

[Kwan Dai]

Dbl Cosign. i remember when there were different lanes in rap music (party, lyrical, street) now we compare all of them and its dumb as hell.. back in the day you had 69 boyz, 95 South, Luke, etc and they had there lane. Nowadays Gucci getting analyzed and compared to JayZ..

This maybe true but if, you asked those artists (69 Boyz, Luke) themselves they wouldn't group themselves with artists like, KRS, or Rakim. So, it was easy to make those separations. Nowadays these cornball MC's are grouping themselves then the Media and Fans hop on it. I think this is the issue with Hip Hop. Their is no Musical standard as their is with other genres.

 

[SCRATCHOFF]

you niggas might be on to something

i swear i've seen "Jamacia" do this

a nigga will drop a song in a thread

some random party/club song

and he'll drop oochie wally and be like, "it can be done in a way that's still lyrical and good"

and a nigga will be like, bruh......oochie wally is wack

and he'll go home and cry into his beef jerky collection

right.. its so stupid... and how was oochie wally lyrical?? ROTFL.... As a rap head and a music lover I think its room for everyone I'm from the South so yes Gucci SNAPS in the club... but I dont want to hear that ish when I'm at work and at house I get a headache... people just need to stop generalizing E V E R Y T H I N G

*back to thread topic*

FYI. Kanye was born in Atlanta... #SOUTHERNROOTS

 

[SCRATCHOFF]

This maybe true but if, you asked those artists (69 Boyz, Luke) themselves they wouldn't group themselves with artists like, KRS, or Rakim. So, it was easy to make those separations. Nowadays these cornball MC's are grouping themselves then the Media and Fans hop on it. I think this is the issue with Hip Hop. Their is no Musical standard as their is with other genres.

but i think that ignorance spread farther than music... and you know it too... I'm convinced Soulja Boy and Waka Flocka are "Brenda's Babies"

 

[Kwan Dai]

but i think that ignorance spread farther than music... and you know it too... I'm convinced Soulja Boy and Waka Flocka are "Brenda's Babies"

Well, that's what happens when there's no standard. Any bafoon can get up and say one or two words that rhyme. As much as I think Waka is pure land fill the young man was humble enough to know that, he isn't in the same class as Wu-Tang. For that alone I give the dude respect. Same as Luke.

 

[SCRATCHOFF]

Ok.. well I retract my Waka statement at least he knows.... that damn Soulja Boy thinking he is a young Tupac is killing me (and not softly)

 

[5th Letter]

i'd kick you in the fuckin chin if you were
anyway
you think nicki minaj's success will lead to some success for joell ortiz and cory fuckin gunz?
no
the people who have her "popping right now" will nowhere near want to hear that "northface and timberlands" music
these bitches calling me manning, ELI

no i'm just saying that i hope joell ortiz at least have a jadakiss/styles p type career.

have you heard ny lately?
no
their style is their style
if it was ny sounding they'd be going HUH! like vado
who, if i do say so myself, is wack

that punchline style originated in new york and you can hear the ny influence in his music.

and since when was j cole style ny sounding?

nigga sound like pac and kanye, nothing ny sounding about j cole...if j cole had pacs voice, he would be 2pac...(ive heard j cole rap various 2pac verses word for word and this nigga sound like he wrote them, u can hear pacs influence in his style hardbody over any ny rapper....)

i will give you j elec, but he's just a biggy soundalike and we all know biggy sounded like a mixture westcoast rapper

lol at incorporating pac into this thread, you're to pac as shadyteam is to eminem

 

[BackInWhite]

hip hop originated in new york so what are you saying?
you can't pick and choose who has a new york influence, nigga
if using punchlines makes you an ny mc
then rapping period makes you an ny mc

 

[SCRATCHOFF]

Why can't NY niggas take an L..... it never fails...

 

[illogics]

This thread is a form of flattery.

 

[BackInWhite]

Why can't NY niggas take an L..... it never fails...

my initial thought process wasn't even really about making them take an L
it was to bring to the light that since, for the most part, niggas say we killed hip hop and all that
but yet and still we're the biggest bright spot for the culture's future
these niggas get in here and get to talkin about j.cole and electronica are fuckin ny artists n shit
talkin about how the south don't fuck with them and blahzay blahzay

 

[5th Letter]

hip hop originated in new york so what are you saying?
you can't pick and choose who has a new york influence, nigga
if using punchlines makes you an ny mc
then rapping period makes you an ny mc

if j cole sounded like ice cube or d.o.c i would say he had a west coast influence. it really isn't hard to understand.

 

[BackInWhite]

if j cole sounded like ice cube or d.o.c i would say he had a west coast influence. it really isn't hard to understand.

but since they use punchlines and don't have accents they sound like ny artists
ok then, "Jamacia"

 

[5th Letter]

but since they use punchlines and don't have accents they sound like ny artists
ok then, "Jamacia"

ludacris uses punchlines and no one calls him an ny rapper, or how about andre 3000? i mean really meatwad

 

[BackInWhite]

ludacris uses punchlines and no one calls him an ny rapper, or how about andre 3000? i mean really meatwad

well then what the fuck is your point, "Jamacia"?

 

[Mr. AJ]

Well, the South slept on literate artist such as Little Brother, Cunninlynguist, Eightball & MGJ even, J-Cole and pretty much any artist that didn't make music about a dance. If it didn't sound like something that come from the cheering section of a southern football game then it wont get anywhere in the south. If the artist use too many syllables in one word, or can define one word 3+ different ways or just make a coherent sentence then it will be slept on. Lets just be honest.. It's gotta be on a Ying Yang Twin/Lil Jon or Wacka/Gucci/OJ da Juice Man type of style to get the common southerners attention. (Not southerners in a hip hop forum)

if i had J-Cole & Little Brother beatin out of my whip in most places in the south, I will be looked at as if I was in a white Klan robe. And they gone ask me if I got one of the artist that I named or something similar. The women wanna get low and shake they ass and the niggaz want something in a language and sentence structure that they can understand and relate too.

 

[Miles HIGH]

well then what the fuck is your point, "Jamacia"?

What they tryna say is that Cole and Electronica have production, content, and rhyme schemes that are reminiscent of NY rappers such as Nas, Biggie, Jay-Z, etc., so that makes them like "NY rappers". Which is stupid. Just beacause a nigga has multiple musical influences that come out in his music doesn't make him less southern, or western, or whatever the fuck.

 

[Miles HIGH]

Did this nigga say the south slept on 8Ball&MJG? Really nigga?

*exits thread*

 

[BobOblah]

I'm glad J. Cole and Jay Electronica are up next because they are dope, I don't care where they are from.

And yes, Cole and Jay Elect have some east coast style.

"I'm just a down south nigga, lil' east coast flow"

- J. Cole, Good Game

Jay Elect may have acknowledged it too, but I can't remember. He's clearly influenced by Biggie, although... who isn't.