Duncan>>>>>Kobe

[Copper]

some?? ok i guess if you look at a young upstart coach or some one like that. this is quite a strong example but if phil jackson would have said "get melo" then they would have tried HARD. now yes that is phil jackson but you cant just give a coach any ol players and expect him to make shit happen. the coach plays a big part on the player that are on them team and the gm does more than sign players in ink.

and my statement still holds true. Its a fact GMs draft players regardless of the role or the input of the coach GMs draft players.

so how was a fact a dumb statement to make??

 

[Mumo X]

Alcindor in year one!

kareem and worthy may hav won finals mvps but it wuz magics team. He wuz there go to guy. Won a ship in hz rookie yr,quite a remarkable achievement

 

[Mumo X]

Bill Russel is the GOAT big. Case closed. Only MJ should be place above Bill

 

[Chi-Town Bully]

kareem and worthy may hav won finals mvps but it wuz magics team. He wuz there go to guy. Won a ship in hz rookie yr,quite a remarkable achievement

With Kareem leading the way, and only won finals mvp because Kareem was hurt in the finals. Before getting hurt Kareem was averaging 33 ppg in the series. That year Kareem was also the league MVP, but Magic wasn't playing second fiddle to you though right

 

[Copper]

kareem and worthy may hav won finals mvps but it wuz magics team. He wuz there go to guy. Won a ship in hz rookie yr,quite a remarkable achievement

so kareem wasnt team captain n year one??

 

[UPTOWN]

and my statement still holds true. Its a fact GMs draft players regardless of the role or the input of the coach GMs draft players.
so how was a fact a dumb statement to make??

because your being technical to try to prove your point. example: thats like tom brady throwin 4 int's because of passes his recievers didnt hold on to. yes TECHNICALLY it is his interception but its a technicality. basically all you are saying is that the coach isnt an official part of management. so what?? coaches dont just say "get me some players" then the gm's take it from there. the gm only really looks at it from a business stand point (salary, past injuries, behaviour etc)

come on cuzzin ... thats what takes away from this room. niggas will stray completely away from the topic to knit pick something so moot. when the lakers got kobe they had to make moves just to get him from charlotte. del harris was cool with that and was a part of that my dude. kobe got picked in the top 20 if i remember correctly and tho he didnt start the lakers won well over 50 games that year plus had shaq. you think del harris woulda been ok getting kobe if they werent gonna get shaq?? they traded a good big man to get kobe (not 100% on that but thats how i remember it)

kobe came into a good situation unlike jordan as for that comparison

 

[Copper]

homie GMs DRAFT PLAYERS = FACT.....what about that dont u understand. no need for titangraphs. coaches dont make the final say.

and what part of the argument involves how jordan and kobe came into the L and under what circumstances? that doesnt have anything to do with anything.

 

[UPTOWN]

homie GMs DRAFT PLAYERS = FACT.....what about that dont u understand. no need for titangraphs. coaches dont make the final say.

and what part of the argument involves how jordan and kobe came into the L and under what circumstances? that doesnt have anything to do with anything.

well since you didnt want to read it oh well LOL coaches have a bigger say than your trying to make it out to be. you can run with your technicalities all you want LOL

kobe is on a lower lever than duncan. he only does that crazy shit to teams like toronto etc LOL

 

[Knightryder]

U can argue for either Timmy or Kobe....ill just add that Timmy had the luxury of excelling when the competiton at the Big man positions (PF,C) were dying out while Kobe had to contend with wing players like AI, Ray Allen, TMac, VC, Pierce while not getting the greenlight with Shaq in LA....to niggas like Wade and LeBron when he got older as the main dude and had a playoff roster whose starting line up consisted of players who either got booted from the NBA or players who weren't even good enough to start when they left LA to another team.....we gonna ignore the fact that while Duncan was ballin with Parker n Manu that Kobe was ballin with Smush,Luke Walton n Chris Mihm???

i hope niggaz, reading what the fuck this nigga just wrote right here.....

someone applaud this man...... niggaz act as if Duncan Wasn't playing with The Admiral when he first came in the league

The Twin Towers.....

 

[major pain]

yeah Wilt had better numbers, thats a well known fact to true basketball fans.

Stats aint everythn. Bill made his teamates better, he had a winnin mentality and a better leader. That aint reflected in the stat sheet

if it wuznt for MJ then Russel woulda bn the GOAT. 11 rings and he always outplayed wilt who is one of the greatest centres the game has seen.

Nigga THIS is what you said. Dont try changing shit now.

The Stilt did to Russell what other modern big men would have done. The reason why Russell was as good as he was, is simple. He was bigger and more athletic than the rest of the league, until Wilt came along and SHAT on Russell. What Russell did was amazing for his era, but he would not survive as a big man in the modern era.

 

[Copper]

well since you didnt want to read it oh well LOL coaches have a bigger say than your trying to make it out to be. you can run with your technicalities all you want LOL

kobe is on a lower lever than duncan. he only does that crazy shit to teams like toronto etc LOL

some coaches have say but thats it.Thats a fact. no technicalities. and how is duncan on another level than kobe??

 

[Mister B.]

I've read some pretty asinine things in this read:

1) Nigs downplaying Shaq's impact to up Kobe over Duncan. 3 Finals MVPs with a reg season MVP mean you were THE guy during those years, plant blank PEROID.

2) People downplaying the 05-07 Lakers. After Shaq before Gasol, the Lakers were NO BETTER than a #7 seed, and blew a 3-1 lead to Phoenix, while watching mo fos flat out QUIT in Game 7s.

3) 4 rings in 9 years, 3 Finals MVPs, and 2 reg season MVPs apparently don't mean much, just cause they weren't back-to-backs. SMH @ that bullshit reasoning.

4) Being labeled the greatest Power Foward EVER, and not even retired yet don't trumph being a Top 3 Shooting guard now?

Delusional-ass stans, I swear. Nig puts up 81 against a bullshit squad, and now he's better than everyone not name Mike?

Fuck....outta...here.

Kobe's a great player, Top 10 no doubt. But Duncan>>>>Kobe.

PEROID.

Stop being blinded by Black Mamba commericals and phony Kanye "swag". Every athlete don't need a sneaker to be consider a great player.

 

[Chi-Town Bully]

Aint nobody saying that Duncan not a great player, but Kobe is the bigger star, at one point was the face of the league. The NBA dont market Tim Duncan but they do market Kobe Bryant which is why Kobe has the bigger league impact over Duncan.

 

[Copper]

Aint nobody saying that Duncan not a great player, but Kobe is the bigger star, at one point was the face of the league. The NBA dont market Tim Duncan but they do market Kobe Bryant which is why Kobe has the bigger league impact over Duncan.

cant tell some niggas shit they hate who they hate and cant be objective to save they life

 

[PanchoYoSancho]

Aint nobody saying that Duncan not a great player, but Kobe is the bigger star, at one point was the face of the league. The NBA dont market Tim Duncan but they do market Kobe Bryant which is why Kobe has the bigger league impact over Duncan.

What the hell does this have to do with anything?

This aint a popularity contest, dumbass. This is about building a champion.

 

[major pain]

I think people get star struck with Kobe being so dynamic a player. While Duncan has been slow, steady and consistent. Kobe has the "wow" factor but Duncan just gets shit done.

 

[Copper]

the t/s asked about impact on the League. which goes hand in hand with popularity. thats why people are arguing jersey sells and ratings u dumbasses.

 

[Copper]

I think people get star struck with Kobe's being so dynamic a player. While Duncan has been slow, steady and consistent. Kobe has the "wow" factor but Duncan just gets shit done.

I can co-sign this...

 

[Jr523]

Can somebody tell me wat has Kobe done better than Duncan other than having great big men.

 

[major pain]

Can somebody tell me wat has Kobe done better than Duncan other than having great big men.

Scoring ability? Kobe can take over a game at any point. I think thats why he gets the Jordan comparison so much. When they turn it on, you could have 6 players on defense, aint no stopping them.