Duncan>>>>>Kobe

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This is a touch choice for me since I think both are overrated and neither is top 5 alltime but I gotta go with Kobe. Kobe has got to be 6 and 1 or so just off the top of my head against the spurs. Bruce Bowen a great defender never could stop Kobe, he liked playing the spurs. I can't remember him not shitting on the spurs and Tm never played great against LA. He was either being guarded by Shamki walker or Robert Horry and never could do them, and David and other guys were guarding Shaq. Tim can't get you 40 or 50 if you need it like Shaq Hakeem and Karl. Shaq never wanted to guard tim cause of the foul trouble so I expect alot more being guarded by those guys and Gasol shit on him the last time they met in the western finals.

Also on that tim did less with more, they both have had alot of help :

Sean Elliot Allstar with Tim, same for David even though he was on the down side he still was an allstar not to mention Bruce Bowen, Stephen Jackson, and Robert Horry and oh yeah Tony and Manu > D wade Tony and Manu > Iverson Tony and Manu > T-Mac are you kidding me saying Tim would have more playing with a great guard LMAO shit Tony and Manu > Kobe If you traded Kobe for Manu and Tony the Lakers would probably have 70 wins and the Spurs would be washed up
 
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Chitown Bully;2251378 said:
As far as impact you gotta go with Kobe. As good as Duncan is aint nobody trying to watch no Spurs games. TD is boring, how you have an impact when every time you go to the finals the ratings drop.

lol Thats not a good look.

David Stern's worst nightmare is the spurs in the Finals lol.......
 
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The Heat may be overrated but fans are watching so their impact is huge. I never said he wasn't an impact for his team, he not an impact for the league. How are you making an impact when people dont care about you outside San Antonio.When the question of who the best player in the game, Duncan name doesn't come up. Its a difference between impact for the team and impact for the league
 
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The Entrepreneur;2251937 said:
This is a touch choice for me since I think both are overrated and neither is top 5 alltime but I gotta go with Kobe. Kobe has got to be 6 and 1 or so just off the top of my head against the spurs. Bruce Bowen a great defender never could stop Kobe, he liked playing the spurs. I can't remember him not shitting on the spurs and Tm never played great against LA. He was either being guarded by Shamki walker or Robert Horry and never could do them, and David and other guys were guarding Shaq. Tim can't get you 40 or 50 if you need it like Shaq Hakeem and Karl. Shaq never wanted to guard tim cause of the foul trouble so I expect alot more being guarded by those guys and Gasol shit on him the last time they met in the western finals.

Also on that tim did less with more, they both have had alot of help :

Sean Elliot Allstar with Tim, same for David even though he was on the down side he still was an allstar not to mention Bruce Bowen, Stephen Jackson, and Robert Horry and oh yeah Tony and Manu > D wade Tony and Manu > Iverson Tony and Manu > T-Mac are you kidding me saying Tim would have more playing with a great guard LMAO shit Tony and Manu > Kobe If you traded Kobe for Manu and Tony the Lakers would probably have 70 wins and the Spurs would be washed up

did bill russel drop 50 or 40 often? But he shits on kareem,shaq,hakeem,wilt,drob,malone.

Kobe playd wit a monsta shaq, rice and fisher

currently kobe has 2 top 5 bigs in the league, one of the best defenders in artest and a 6th man in odom. Duncan aint been in loaded teams like that
 
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Tommy bilfiger;2250673 said:
But he averaged 35 a game and dropped 81 he was the mvp right?

Who cares if they were losing kobe averaged 32 without shaq and gasol and the lakers were the 7 seed

n shaq wasn't winning a ring with no Kobe or D-wade or even Penny
 
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If no one is watching how is it an impact for the league explain that to me. Even die hard NBA fans was put off by the Spurs in the finals.
 
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Chitown Bully;2252005 said:
The Heat may be overrated but fans are watching so their impact is huge. I never said he wasn't an impact for his team, he not an impact for the league. How are you making an impact when people dont care about you outside San Antonio.When the question of who the best player in the game, Duncan name doesn't come up. Its a difference between impact for the team and impact for the league

so kobe better than russel too? Smh!

How can someone who has been a sidekick before be in the GOAT conversation?
 
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The Entrepreneur;2251937 said:
This is a touch choice for me since I think both are overrated and neither is top 5 alltime but I gotta go with Kobe. Kobe has got to be 6 and 1 or so just off the top of my head against the spurs. Bruce Bowen a great defender never could stop Kobe, he liked playing the spurs. I can't remember him not shitting on the spurs and Tm never played great against LA. He was either being guarded by Shamki walker or Robert Horry and never could do them, and David and other guys were guarding Shaq. Tim can't get you 40 or 50 if you need it like Shaq Hakeem and Karl. Shaq never wanted to guard tim cause of the foul trouble so I expect alot more being guarded by those guys and Gasol shit on him the last time they met in the western finals.

Also on that tim did less with more, they both have had alot of help :
Sean Elliot Allstar with Tim, same for David even though he was on the down side he still was an allstar not to mention Bruce Bowen, Stephen Jackson, and Robert Horry and oh yeah Tony and Manu > D wade Tony and Manu > Iverson Tony and Manu > T-Mac are you kidding me saying Tim would have more playing with a great guard LMAO shit Tony and Manu > Kobe If you traded Kobe for Manu and Tony the Lakers would probably have 70 wins and the Spurs would be washed up

lol niggaz wanna fron like kobe had a better team but to be honest through out the years the spurs and lakers had the same team.......

duncan first couple of years was playing with the Admiral david robinson

sean elliot great from 3 points range

than later on down the road tony parker manu ginobli

bruce bowen great defender

avery johnson no different from derek fisher

san antonio even had steve kerr back in 1999

mario elie and terry porter and even later on steve smith

niggaz was just as loaded at the lakers....so niggaz need to stop saying tim duncan aint have no help
 
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Mumo X;2252038 said:
so kobe better than russel too? Smh!

How can someone who has been a sidekick before be in the GOAT conversation?

Yes, how are you a sidekick when you dropping between 22 - 30 ppg. Kobe and Shaq was an equal part to those Laker teams and Shaq ego wouldnt allow him to share the spotlight
 
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knightryder;2252042 said:
lol niggaz wanna fron like kobe had a better team but to be honest through out the years the spurs and lakers had the same team.......

duncan first couple of years was playing with the Admiral david robinson

sean elliot great from 3 points range

than later on down the road tony parker manu ginobli

bruce bowen great defender

avery johnson no different from derek fisher

san antonio even had steve kerr back in 1999

mario elie and terry porter and even later on steve smith

niggaz was just as loaded at the lakers....so niggaz need to stop saying tim duncan aint have no help

Duncan wasn't playing wit bums. If you check the rosters 99, 03, 05, & 07 duncan had help........
 
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Tommy bilfiger;2252075 said:
Shaq averaged 41 and 15 in the 00 finals and kobe 15 and 4 how is that not a sidekick

I recall watchin lakers games were shaq was drawing doubles and triples just like duncan,The game is played inside out(unless you Mike)

Sidekicks dont go 0-4 in the finals mvp or reg season mvp categories if they were Equal then them mvp's should been distributed equally.But they weren't

Niggas refuse to believe that Shaq was the MAN on the lakers teams..
 
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Chitown Bully;2252045 said:
Yes, how are you a sidekick when you dropping between 22 - 30 ppg. Kobe and Shaq was an equal part to those Laker teams and Shaq ego wouldnt allow him to share the spotlight

so how kobe never won finals mvp in those 3 peat teams. Answer me that?
 
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Jr523;2252083 said:
Niggas refuse to believe that Shaq was the MAN on the lakers teams..

exactly. Kobe dickrydaz hav continously lied to themselves into thinkin kobe wuz on shaqs league in those 3peat ships.
 
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What center did Shaq go up against in those finals,a old Ric Smits an old Dikembe Mutombo and Jason Collins. He suppose to beast on that level of competition
 
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Tommy bilfiger;2252023 said:
Who dont care about duncan outside of san antonio besides ADD havin fans?

Rookie averaging a double double and increasing your franchise win total by 36 wins and winning the championship in your 2nd year wit a league mvp and 2 finals mvp's>>>>>>>>>>>"People not watching cuz you're boring"

Great logic

Nice how u left out the reason why the spurs only won 26 games that year
 
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Chitown Bully;2252182 said:
What center did Shaq go up against in those finals,a old Ric Smits an old Dikembe Mutombo and Jason Collins. He suppose to beast on that level of competition

do u knw what shaq had to go thru to get to the finals. Remember rasheed and blazers,twin towers,C-webb,KG and Dirk? Any of these teams woulda made the finals in the weak east.
 
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Mumo X;2252024 said:
did bill russel drop 50 or 40 often? But he shits on kareem,shaq,hakeem,wilt,drob, and malone

Kobe playd wit a monsta shaq, rice and fisher

currently kobe has 2 top 5 bigs in the league, one of the best defenders in artest and a 6th man in odom. Duncan aint been in loaded teams like that

No he don't. Bill Russell an all time great and deserve to get be recognized, but get real... Ain't no way he fuckin with any of those players. Ever.
 
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Mumo X;2252331 said:
do u knw what shaq had to go thru to get to the finals. Remember rasheed and blazers,twin towers,C-webb,KG and Dirk? Any of these teams woulda made the finals in the weak east.

Y'all was bringing up finals MVP, he didn't face those guys in the finals during the 3 peat years
 
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Chitown Bully;2252483 said:
Y'all was bringing up finals MVP, he didn't face those guys in the finals during the 3 peat years

bruh jus giv it up. Even in the west playoffs shaq wuz dominant, he averaged better numbers than kobe.
 
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