Dracula Untold (Trailer)- Luke Evans, Dominic Cooper

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soul rattler;7472450 said:
I saw it last night.

Pro's:

The visual effects

Luke Evans as a lead actor

The execution of a story based on real historical events

Con's:

Forgettable acting from everyone not named Luke Evans or Ronan Vilbert

Particularly bad acting from the most generic villian in Bradley Cooper

Lifeless script. I could have watched it on mute and not missed a beat

The reviews I've read have trashed the movie because they want Dracula movies to be violent bloodbaths with no compassion. But it's called "Dracula Untold", not "Dracula We Already Knew". Yes, we all are aware of the fact that Dracula is the king of vampires, but this is an origins story so go in without any assumptions and you'll enjoy it.

The only other thing I'm concerned about is the humongous time leap. It was random as he'll. But we'll have to see what Universal has in store with future movies.

Well, I don't think the criticisms were so much that it's bad because its not more of the same gory Vampire fare. The criticisms are more that this is a vampire monster movie, yet there is hardly any blood or gore. That typically isn't a good thing. I'd agree with that. The movie didn't have to be a bloodbath, but some actual blood in a vampire movie should be a must.
 
The Lonious Monk;7472833 said:
soul rattler;7472450 said:
I saw it last night.

Pro's:

The visual effects

Luke Evans as a lead actor

The execution of a story based on real historical events

Con's:

Forgettable acting from everyone not named Luke Evans or Ronan Vilbert

Particularly bad acting from the most generic villian in Bradley Cooper

Lifeless script. I could have watched it on mute and not missed a beat

The reviews I've read have trashed the movie because they want Dracula movies to be violent bloodbaths with no compassion. But it's called "Dracula Untold", not "Dracula We Already Knew". Yes, we all are aware of the fact that Dracula is the king of vampires, but this is an origins story so go in without any assumptions and you'll enjoy it.

The only other thing I'm concerned about is the humongous time leap. It was random as he'll. But we'll have to see what Universal has in store with future movies.

Well, I don't think the criticisms were so much that it's bad because its not more of the same gory Vampire fare. The criticisms are more that this is a vampire monster movie, yet there is hardly any blood or gore. That typically isn't a good thing. I'd agree with that. The movie didn't have to be a bloodbath, but some actual blood in a vampire movie should be a must.

As a moviegoer, you can choose whether or not this matters, but too much gore means Rated R, which would significantly cut down ticket sales, which means the studio loses money and the whole "monster movieverse" plan is no longer worth the money it takes to make it and nobody gets anything.

I would rather them keep that PG13 rating and make a genuinely good movie with a good story, script, and acting some complementary effects than risk it all because a few people want to see more blood.
 
Just watched this movie that is a crazy as hell time jump but was pretty good. So is the first vampire still a vamp and was never set free? I didn't expect him to turn some of his people but he said fuck it after his wife died. I figured when Drac stayed in the sun it would just hurt him and not kill him permanently. Definitely curious how they bring the mummy and wolfman together.
 
soul rattler;7581209 said:
Sans comedy and a better script, it was as good as most of Marvel's movies.

So sans everything that makes the Marvel movies good, this movies was as good as the Marvel movies. Ok, that makes sense.
 
The Lonious Monk;7584211 said:
soul rattler;7581209 said:
Sans comedy and a better script, it was as good as most of Marvel's movies.

So sans everything that makes the Marvel movies good, this movies was as good as the Marvel movies. Ok, that makes sense.

No.

Basically that wit/charm that Marvel movies have was the only thing this movie didn't. In terms of the story, utilization of characters, set up for sequels, effects, fighting sequences it was definitely on par with most Marvel movies.
 
soul rattler;7584477 said:
The Lonious Monk;7584211 said:
soul rattler;7581209 said:
Sans comedy and a better script, it was as good as most of Marvel's movies.

So sans everything that makes the Marvel movies good, this movies was as good as the Marvel movies. Ok, that makes sense.

No.

Basically that wit/charm that Marvel movies have was the only thing this movie didn't. In terms of the story, utilization of characters, set up for sequels, effects, fighting sequences it was definitely on par with most Marvel movies.

Going to disagree with you there. I liked the movie, but the story and characters were not as strong in this movie as in the Marvel movies.
 
The Lonious Monk;7584986 said:
soul rattler;7584477 said:
The Lonious Monk;7584211 said:
soul rattler;7581209 said:
Sans comedy and a better script, it was as good as most of Marvel's movies.

So sans everything that makes the Marvel movies good, this movies was as good as the Marvel movies. Ok, that makes sense.

No.

Basically that wit/charm that Marvel movies have was the only thing this movie didn't. In terms of the story, utilization of characters, set up for sequels, effects, fighting sequences it was definitely on par with most Marvel movies.

Going to disagree with you there. I liked the movie, but the story and characters were not as strong in this movie as in the Marvel movies.

So Iron Man 2 and 3, Thor 1 and 2, and Incredible Hulk are all better stories with stronger characters than Dracula?
 
soul rattler;7586425 said:
The Lonious Monk;7584986 said:
soul rattler;7584477 said:
The Lonious Monk;7584211 said:
soul rattler;7581209 said:
Sans comedy and a better script, it was as good as most of Marvel's movies.

So sans everything that makes the Marvel movies good, this movies was as good as the Marvel movies. Ok, that makes sense.

No.

Basically that wit/charm that Marvel movies have was the only thing this movie didn't. In terms of the story, utilization of characters, set up for sequels, effects, fighting sequences it was definitely on par with most Marvel movies.

Going to disagree with you there. I liked the movie, but the story and characters were not as strong in this movie as in the Marvel movies.

So Iron Man 2 and 3, Thor 1 and 2, and Incredible Hulk are all better stories with stronger characters than Dracula?

yes
 
Bcotton5;7587183 said:
soul rattler;7586425 said:
The Lonious Monk;7584986 said:
soul rattler;7584477 said:
The Lonious Monk;7584211 said:
soul rattler;7581209 said:
Sans comedy and a better script, it was as good as most of Marvel's movies.

So sans everything that makes the Marvel movies good, this movies was as good as the Marvel movies. Ok, that makes sense.

No.

Basically that wit/charm that Marvel movies have was the only thing this movie didn't. In terms of the story, utilization of characters, set up for sequels, effects, fighting sequences it was definitely on par with most Marvel movies.

Going to disagree with you there. I liked the movie, but the story and characters were not as strong in this movie as in the Marvel movies.

So Iron Man 2 and 3, Thor 1 and 2, and Incredible Hulk are all better stories with stronger characters than Dracula?

yes

 
@‌loniousmonk

you played Castlevania Lords of Shadow aswell right? The ending of this movie, shit with the jump in Time and Tywin Lannistar as a 'Sobek' type of character, shit even his blue red armor was allmost straight from the game lol
 
Alkinduz;7590724 said:
@‌loniousmonk

you played Castlevania Lords of Shadow aswell right? The ending of this movie, shit with the jump in Time and Tywin Lannistar as a 'Sobek' type of character, shit even his blue red armor was allmost straight from the game lol

Agreed. This movie very much reminded of that game to the point that I can't believe they didn't take some cues from it.
 

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