Dr Umar Johnson coming for Sara Suten Seti soul

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jetlifebih;c-9574776 said:
Niggas want to be white so bad....when were our scholars supposed to be docile or passive?? Not have personality, or swavor....tighten up man....not every scholar is a square ....a lot of our people scholars includdd come from the same area as rappers same environment with the same experiences so of course there will be some similarity in personality

But the wwf shit gotta stop....it's more important things to do....if somebody threaten you that's different but this is some I'm the leader no I'm the leader shit...

"The WWF shit has got to stop" That's all that matters. I don't care about their personalities, I care that these niggas are out here cutting WWF promos on each other and acting like they're really about to meet in the streets. You can't preach empowerment and "stay woke" and whatnot and then be out here doing this dumb shit. It makes people not take you seriously.
 
jetlifebih;c-9574776 said:
Niggas want to be white so bad....when were our scholars supposed to be docile or passive?? Not have personality, or swavor....tighten up man....not every scholar is a square ....a lot of our people scholars includdd come from the same area as rappers same environment with the same experiences so of course there will be some similarity in personality

But the wwf shit gotta stop....it's more important things to do....if somebody threaten you that's different but this is some I'm the leader no I'm the leader shit...

I don't really understand the significance of your post. No one is criticizing these guys for having swagger. They are being criticized for being full of shit at times and the WWF shit that you yourself say needs to stop.
 
I finally came across the original video of Dr. Umar that started this. I gotta admit it is kind of cocky and arrogant...
 
gns;c-9574989 said:
What exactly was getting out of hand and with whom?

Seti and Young Pharoah (or just Young Paroah?) was supposed to debate somebody (Amen Ra squad ?) in NY, organized by Sa Neter. The debate fell out, allegedly over a shady contract that would have given Sa Neter the rights to all of the intellectual property of the debater's (Young Pharoah) work, fined him $500 for each time he cursed, not payed for his travel or lodging, etc...

Seti and Pharoah still came to NY on the day of, and was going to have a different event but allegedly Sa Neter fucked up the other event by various means including calling cops and goons. In the midst, various entertaining and inflammatory YouTube videos were dropped (some removed) going back at each other and their mothers.
 
Ajackson17;c-9572940 said:
D. Morgan;c-9572937 said:
Ajackson17;c-9572115 said:
The only leader is yourself. Realest shit. You build conglomerates not run to leaders, infrastructure is superior to a leader any day. Multiple people putting input that are vetted and verified. We just have to think logically and creative and create a modern culture to ourselves.

What changed for you from December 13th to now? You nosigned my post when I disagreed.

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December 13

Tariq, Dr. Umar Johnson, Sa Neter, and Louis Farrakhan are our black leaders.

I was messing with y'all. I remember not one of your posts

real tears!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
The Lonious Monk;c-9574946 said:
jetlifebih;c-9574776 said:
Niggas want to be white so bad....when were our scholars supposed to be docile or passive?? Not have personality, or swavor....tighten up man....not every scholar is a square ....a lot of our people scholars includdd come from the same area as rappers same environment with the same experiences so of course there will be some similarity in personality

But the wwf shit gotta stop....it's more important things to do....if somebody threaten you that's different but this is some I'm the leader no I'm the leader shit...

I don't really understand the significance of your post. No one is criticizing these guys for having swagger. They are being criticized for being full of shit at times and the WWF shit that you yourself say needs to stop.

My post wasn't significant fam

The Lonious Monk;c-9574946 said:
jetlifebih;c-9574776 said:
Niggas want to be white so bad....when were our scholars supposed to be docile or passive?? Not have personality, or swavor....tighten up man....not every scholar is a square ....a lot of our people scholars includdd come from the same area as rappers same environment with the same experiences so of course there will be some similarity in personality

But the wwf shit gotta stop....it's more important things to do....if somebody threaten you that's different but this is some I'm the leader no I'm the leader shit...

I don't really understand the significance of your post. No one is criticizing these guys for having swagger. They are being criticized for being full of shit at times and the WWF shit that you yourself say needs to stop.

My post wasn't significant , the wwf stuff im talking about is the fake phone calls and etc
 
the black conscious community is killing themselves. they are becoming or have become everything that they speak out against. it has become more about profit than anything else. the debates need to stop. u should not be publicly trying to embarrass anyone. u should be working together with each other and sharing knowledge and ideas.
 
7figz;c-9575012 said:
gns;c-9574989 said:
What exactly was getting out of hand and with whom?

Seti and Young Pharoah (or just Young Paroah?) was supposed to debate somebody (Amen Ra squad ?) in NY, organized by Sa Neter. The debate fell out, allegedly over a shady contract that would have given Sa Neter the rights to all of the intellectual property of the debater's (Young Pharoah) work, fined him $500 for each time he cursed, not payed for his travel or lodging, etc...

Seti and Pharoah still came to NY on the day of, and was going to have a different event but allegedly Sa Neter fucked up the other event by various means including calling cops and goons. In the midst, various entertaining and inflammatory YouTube videos were dropped (some removed) going back at each other and their mothers.

Thanks and wow

Thats some fuck shit on Sa neter part if true. Niggaz giving out 360 contracts in the conscious community

Shit is sad. They're getting in their own way
 
gns;c-9575073 said:
7figz;c-9575012 said:
gns;c-9574989 said:
What exactly was getting out of hand and with whom?

Seti and Young Pharoah (or just Young Paroah?) was supposed to debate somebody (Amen Ra squad ?) in NY, organized by Sa Neter. The debate fell out, allegedly over a shady contract that would have given Sa Neter the rights to all of the intellectual property of the debater's (Young Pharoah) work, fined him $500 for each time he cursed, not payed for his travel or lodging, etc...

Seti and Pharoah still came to NY on the day of, and was going to have a different event but allegedly Sa Neter fucked up the other event by various means including calling cops and goons. In the midst, various entertaining and inflammatory YouTube videos were dropped (some removed) going back at each other and their mothers.

Thanks and wow

Thats some fuck shit on Sa neter part if true. Niggaz giving out 360 contracts in the conscious community

Shit is sad. They're getting in their own way

Sa Neter was offering to pay way more to them. This was no Suge knight moment. The real reason why they didn't go was because Sa Neter wasn't going to put in their contract that they had the option to opt out in any given reason especially no fines added to them.

Their whole goal was to use SLANDER, CURSE, BE BELLIGERIENT, and IGNORANT and Sa wasn't going for that. He wanted a nice and clean professional debate which is all about the information and they had none. Their presentation was weak and I easily dismantled a lot of their claims and it's suppose to be about linguistics.

Young Pharaoh said Greek is not a spoken language....easily beatable claim...Seti said a monument could not be found, but it's in the Cairo museum and he said he searched the whole internet, but this fool was in Egypt quite a few times and never been to the Cairo museum...something ain't right.

And other ridiculous claims. Sa ain't the bad guy, these dudes were talking crap about a subject they had no knowledge on. It's like a layman debating to an chemists when he has no background in the subject matter and is not vetted at all.
 
As a i said ajax these niggaz getting in their own way.

If one had never heard of any of these cats and their lil subculture and this was the introduction..... smh
 
Ajackson17;c-9575271 said:
gns;c-9575073 said:
7figz;c-9575012 said:
gns;c-9574989 said:
What exactly was getting out of hand and with whom?

Seti and Young Pharoah (or just Young Paroah?) was supposed to debate somebody (Amen Ra squad ?) in NY, organized by Sa Neter. The debate fell out, allegedly over a shady contract that would have given Sa Neter the rights to all of the intellectual property of the debater's (Young Pharoah) work, fined him $500 for each time he cursed, not payed for his travel or lodging, etc...

Seti and Pharoah still came to NY on the day of, and was going to have a different event but allegedly Sa Neter fucked up the other event by various means including calling cops and goons. In the midst, various entertaining and inflammatory YouTube videos were dropped (some removed) going back at each other and their mothers.

Thanks and wow

Thats some fuck shit on Sa neter part if true. Niggaz giving out 360 contracts in the conscious community

Shit is sad. They're getting in their own way

Sa Neter was offering to pay way more to them. This was no Suge knight moment. The real reason why they didn't go was because Sa Neter wasn't going to put in their contract that they had the option to opt out in any given reason especially no fines added to them.

Their whole goal was to use SLANDER, CURSE, BE BELLIGERIENT, and IGNORANT and Sa wasn't going for that. He wanted a nice and clean professional debate which is all about the information and they had none. Their presentation was weak and I easily dismantled a lot of their claims and it's suppose to be about linguistics.

Young Pharaoh said Greek is not a spoken language....easily beatable claim...Seti said a monument could not be found, but it's in the Cairo museum and he said he searched the whole internet, but this fool was in Egypt quite a few times and never been to the Cairo museum...something ain't right.

And other ridiculous claims. Sa ain't the bad guy, these dudes were talking crap about a subject they had no knowledge on. It's like a layman debating to an chemists when he has no background in the subject matter and is not vetted at all.

That's what separates these conscious dudes from the likes of Dr. Clarke, Dr. Ben, ect.....

They were professionals, these dudes are just getting over on the distrust of educational institutions in the community. ...

It's not like there are no blacks in academia, they just don't get on the Internet and make wild claims....

Michelle Alexander, Dyson & West are good, but they don't speak to the "streets " like umar and them??????

 
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Ajackson17;c-9575271 said:
gns;c-9575073 said:
7figz;c-9575012 said:
gns;c-9574989 said:
What exactly was getting out of hand and with whom?

Seti and Young Pharoah (or just Young Paroah?) was supposed to debate somebody (Amen Ra squad ?) in NY, organized by Sa Neter. The debate fell out, allegedly over a shady contract that would have given Sa Neter the rights to all of the intellectual property of the debater's (Young Pharoah) work, fined him $500 for each time he cursed, not payed for his travel or lodging, etc...

Seti and Pharoah still came to NY on the day of, and was going to have a different event but allegedly Sa Neter fucked up the other event by various means including calling cops and goons. In the midst, various entertaining and inflammatory YouTube videos were dropped (some removed) going back at each other and their mothers.

Thanks and wow

Thats some fuck shit on Sa neter part if true. Niggaz giving out 360 contracts in the conscious community

Shit is sad. They're getting in their own way

Sa Neter was offering to pay way more to them. This was no Suge knight moment. The real reason why they didn't go was because Sa Neter wasn't going to put in their contract that they had the option to opt out in any given reason especially no fines added to them.

Their whole goal was to use SLANDER, CURSE, BE BELLIGERIENT, and IGNORANT and Sa wasn't going for that. He wanted a nice and clean professional debate which is all about the information and they had none. Their presentation was weak and I easily dismantled a lot of their claims and it's suppose to be about linguistics.

Young Pharaoh said Greek is not a spoken language....easily beatable claim...Seti said a monument could not be found, but it's in the Cairo museum and he said he searched the whole internet, but this fool was in Egypt quite a few times and never been to the Cairo museum...something ain't right.

And other ridiculous claims. Sa ain't the bad guy, these dudes were talking crap about a subject they had no knowledge on. It's like a layman debating to an chemists when he has no background in the subject matter and is not vetted at all.

As always, it's 2 sides.

Either way tho, the contract should've been straight a lot earlier than the week of the event.

It all seemed like it was going down until what - like 3 days before ?

Here's one of Pharoah's videos talking about it...

 
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gns;c-9574989 said:
What exactly was getting out of hand and with whom?

Young Pharaoh(new persona in the conscious community came in this year) and Sara Suten Seti(old to the communite he is in his 40´s) challenged the Amen Ra Squad(A group made to study egyptian literature and culture and they translate text and mke books) to a debate if the Mdw Ntr been deciphered.Sa neter(Elder of the community he´s the one that films 90% of the conscious videos out since the 90´s till now) creates the debates.Seti and Sa were tight.They made a contract so Seti & Pharaoh would get like 3,000 each or something like that and that the intellectual property would be his meaning:He would tape it and he would keep the tape but Seti and Pharao had the freedom to tape too.Seti /7 Pharaoh wanted something like 500$ per month besides the 3,000 for the taping.He also wanted some other shit.The fligh was booked & hotel.Seti and Pharaoh backed out!!!And the Amen Ra squad still did there lecture.Sei tried to do another lecture next day in NY and got ran off NY.He can´t come back.Words been exchanged saying that Seti sniffs coke and blow blunts to come down and still lives in his moms house.Umar got in it because Umar asked to have an elder council to resolve these problems.Seti makes a video talking shit to Umar.Umar fires back.
 
Cabana_Da_Don;c-9575308 said:
gns;c-9574989 said:
What exactly was getting out of hand and with whom?

Young Pharaoh(new persona in the conscious community came in this year) and Sara Suten Seti(old to the communite he is in his 40´s) challenged the Amen Ra Squad(A group made to study egyptian literature and culture and they translate text and mke books) to a debate if the Mdw Ntr been deciphered.Sa neter(Elder of the community he´s the one that films 90% of the conscious videos out since the 90´s till now) creates the debates.Seti and Sa were tight.They made a contract so Seti & Pharaoh would get like 3,000 each or something like that and that the intellectual property would be his meaning:He would tape it and he would keep the tape but Seti and Pharao had the freedom to tape too.Seti /7 Pharaoh wanted something like 500$ per month besides the 3,000 for the taping.He also wanted some other shit.The fligh was booked & hotel.Seti and Pharaoh backed out!!!And the Amen Ra squad still did there lecture.Sei tried to do another lecture next day in NY and got ran off NY.He can´t come back.Words been exchanged saying that Seti sniffs coke and blow blunts to come down and still lives in his moms house.Umar got in it because Umar asked to have an elder council to resolve these problems.Seti makes a video talking shit to Umar.Umar fires back.

Cabana_Da_Don;c-9575314 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxnrnkrShW0

Sa Neter is a good man.Seti and YG are clowns.Watch this video him in the hood showing a black school.

You're not sounding too objective here. You're entitled to your opinion of course.

The way I saw it is if they couldn't agree on a contract (I wouldn't have took that contract either), then why not let them do their own lecture somewhere else ? If Sa Neter really tried to fuck that up, as they say he did, then what part of "he a good dude" is that ?

And what about that other video where Pharoah on the phone with Sa Neter and he saying "Tell Seti moms to suck my dick ?" LOL

As far as Dr. Umar, I mean - having a meeting would've been ok to some people, but Seti felt how he felt - like pretty much where were the elders when they were gettin fucked over in NY ? And you can't say Umar ain't come off too cocky or try to son them / throw shade when he said it.
 
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And that's not to say Sa Neter hasn't done good shit for the community but a fucked up contract is a fucked up contract. Gotta call it how I see it, and dude was definitely talkin his shit on the phone.

I wouldn't want to give away rights to my shit either.
 

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