Ajackson17
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D. Morgan;c-9572952 said:
I actually don't remember too many posts unless they were etherous or weird.
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I actually don't remember too many posts unless they were etherous or weird.
Ajackson17
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leftcoastkev;c-9572972 said:eh...
umar is alright when he is on topic by himself but he hates to be challenged and takes shit over board. the type of cat you fuck with to accomplish a goal when you know you're on 1 accord but don't fuck with otherwise.
i could care less about him calling himself a doctor...blah blah..i don't value the western education system enough to exalt it as a bench mark in my mind, its just a means to an end. One small issue I have with listening to B Watkins is he's constantly challenging the "white system" while exalting the white educational system like it's epitome of success. Never heard Umar rattle off any school names though and at least he's (supposedly) trying to change the system for kids....but anyway.
Ppl lose the focus when they try to elevate these guys to "christ"-like status caring about if they curse, if they get mad, yell, use the work "nigga", etc. At the end of the day it's just men airing out grievances as men talking shit, etc.
But with the above said, besides the blakmagik363/ugr platform, I've had to tune most of these "conscious" cats out in the last few months, un-subscribed from all their youtube channels, don't check for their information, etc. it's like these niggas are distracting themselves with intangibles instead of dealing with the real world. I don't even want that way of thinking influencing my own "concious-ness" and "energy" sub-consciously. I still listen to most of the old school info in my spare time though. They're turning something useful into soap opera reality show bullshit.
now a days dudes is going off the rails with these asinine wanna be smack dvd debates that don't mean shit in my opinion.... who beat who with information....who gives a fuck...it's about can you APPLY the information to better the people in the real world and see results.
Education and levels of degrees are not an European construct.
I'm not too worried about the validity of his "Dr." credentials, but it would be some shit if he's actually lying about it.
But that school shit tho ? That shit sounds shady.
And promoting all that colorism shit to Black people ? Dude seemed to get real petty real quick.
Oh, and that phone call while supposedly on the phone, gtfoh.
But that school shit tho ? That shit sounds shady.
And promoting all that colorism shit to Black people ? Dude seemed to get real petty real quick.
Oh, and that phone call while supposedly on the phone, gtfoh.
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The Lonious Monk
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(Nope);c-9572863 said:Did Umar accept the challenge to show some type of blueprint and curriculum for his this school venture? Has he made any strides in that direction?
Has there been a Psy. D. attributed to any of of his aliases (Shoemake or Johnson)? If he is a doctor, where is his dissertation?
Has he substantiated his claim that he is a true descendant of Fredrick Douglas? (This claim has been debunked by the Douglas family.)
If you're an academic, you know that you have to show and prove. He literally refuses to do that with any claim he has made.
He is too dishonest to be a leader of anyone, he is a second-string Creflo Dollar.
This is par for the course for these people though, and the people that follow them are so blind to it. It's like in that Tariq thread where I pointed out that Johnson and some of the other "experts" on there were making wild claims without any attempt to source them. Cats got mad at me and attacked me. That makes no sense. Whenever you hear stuff like that, your first instinct should be to listen for something resembling proof or to go find it for yourself. These pro-black cats will literally claim that black people did everything there is, will provide hardly any proof, make weak arguments, and somehow their followers will eat it all up.
Our history has been hidden, and I love to learn truth, but I want truth not some exaggerations. These cats do the same thing they bash whites for. They love going on and on about how whites are culture vultures and have whitewashed history, but now what do they do? Let them tell it blacks created every culture in the world from South America to China.
soul rattler;c-9572891 said:Dude... it's not not a stretch to believe he has his doctorate. He's said repeatedly where he received his education from and no one from any of those institutions have refuted it.
Not to cape for Umar, but some of yall act like a ph.D. is so rare that he couldn't possibly have one.
Whether or not he's a doctor isn't the problem. The problem is that he's dishonest.
(Nope);c-9573049 said:soul rattler;c-9572891 said:Dude... it's not not a stretch to believe he has his doctorate. He's said repeatedly where he received his education from and no one from any of those institutions have refuted it.
Not to cape for Umar, but some of yall act like a ph.D. is so rare that he couldn't possibly have one.
Whether or not he's a doctor isn't the problem. The problem is that he's dishonest.
bruh......
lol
Lurkristocrat
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Ajackson17;c-9571375 said:Look at my post yesterday and you'll see Sara Suten Seti lecture on the Egyptian hieroglyphs not being deciphered.
Man who gives a shit? Niggas got bills man
Ajackson17
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Lurkristocrat ;c-9573135 said:Ajackson17;c-9571375 said:Look at my post yesterday and you'll see Sara Suten Seti lecture on the Egyptian hieroglyphs not being deciphered.
Man who gives a shit? Niggas got bills man
Pay your bills then
Arya Tsaddiq
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This is sad man...
Cabana_Da_Don
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Sa Neter said Seti sniffs coke than smokes a blunt after.
mryounggun
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babelipsss;c-9571331 said:It sounded good and positive until about 3:30. I turned it off at 3:43.
Word. Soon as the nigga started sounding like a rapper, I checked out.
7figz;c-9573038 said:I'm not too worried about the validity of his "Dr." credentials, but it would be some shit if he's actually lying about it.
But that school shit tho ? That shit sounds shady.
And promoting all that colorism shit to Black people ? Dude seemed to get real petty real quick.
Oh, and that phone call while supposedly on the phone, gtfoh.
If the title didn't matter then he wouldn't claim it. That shit matters especially when you're billing yourself as an educator. If he can't even be honest about that then what does it say about any other information he tries to educate about
blackrain;c-9573233 said:7figz;c-9573038 said:I'm not too worried about the validity of his "Dr." credentials, but it would be some shit if he's actually lying about it.
But that school shit tho ? That shit sounds shady.
And promoting all that colorism shit to Black people ? Dude seemed to get real petty real quick.
Oh, and that phone call while supposedly on the phone, gtfoh.
If the title didn't matter then he wouldn't claim it. That shit matters especially when you're billing yourself as an educator. If he can't even be honest about that then what does it say about any other information he tries to educate about
Exactly! It can't be dismissed as some social construct without merit when you covet that title. Too much inconsistency with this man.
JokerzWyld
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(Nope);c-9572863 said:Did Umar accept the challenge to show some type of blueprint and curriculum for his school venture? Has he made any strides in that direction?
Has there been a Psy. D. attributed to any of of his aliases (Shoemake or Johnson)? If he is a doctor, where is his dissertation?
Has he substantiated his claim that he is a true descendant of Fredrick Douglas? (This claim has been debunked by the Douglas family.)
If you're an academic, you know that you have to show and prove. He literally refuses to do that with any claim he has made.
He is too dishonest to be a leader of anyone, he is a second-string Creflo Dollar.
His dissertation:
http://digitalcommons.pcom.edu/psychology_dissertations/233/
As for his descending from Fred Douglas, he's already addressed that via YouTube vids.
Hate him if you want, just don't impugn people without facts.
JokerzWyld;c-9573459 said:(Nope);c-9572863 said:Did Umar accept the challenge to show some type of blueprint and curriculum for his school venture? Has he made any strides in that direction?
Has there been a Psy. D. attributed to any of of his aliases (Shoemake or Johnson)? If he is a doctor, where is his dissertation?
Has he substantiated his claim that he is a true descendant of Fredrick Douglas? (This claim has been debunked by the Douglas family.)
If you're an academic, you know that you have to show and prove. He literally refuses to do that with any claim he has made.
He is too dishonest to be a leader of anyone, he is a second-string Creflo Dollar.
His dissertation:
http://digitalcommons.pcom.edu/psychology_dissertations/233/
As for his descending from Fred Douglas, he's already addressed that via YouTube vids.
Hate him if you want, just don't impugn people without facts.
His DETRACTORS say that that's not him..... but what i want to know is if that's not umar then who is it??? because if someone was running around claiming my dissertation was his I would take him to court or at lest come out publicly and let it be known that someone is pretending to be me
zzombie;c-9573473 said:JokerzWyld;c-9573459 said:(Nope);c-9572863 said:Did Umar accept the challenge to show some type of blueprint and curriculum for his school venture? Has he made any strides in that direction?
Has there been a Psy. D. attributed to any of of his aliases (Shoemake or Johnson)? If he is a doctor, where is his dissertation?
Has he substantiated his claim that he is a true descendant of Fredrick Douglas? (This claim has been debunked by the Douglas family.)
If you're an academic, you know that you have to show and prove. He literally refuses to do that with any claim he has made.
He is too dishonest to be a leader of anyone, he is a second-string Creflo Dollar.
His dissertation:
http://digitalcommons.pcom.edu/psychology_dissertations/233/
As for his descending from Fred Douglas, he's already addressed that via YouTube vids.
Hate him if you want, just don't impugn people without facts.
His DETRACTORS say that that's not him..... but what i want to know is if that's not umar then who is it??? because if someone was running around claiming my dissertation was his I would take him to court or at lest come out publicly and let it be known that someone is pretending to be me
It's a shame that people have to question whether or not that's his dissertation, but that's his doing.
He could be brilliant, but he's unbending when his people have real concerns and that's not the sign of a leader, that is the sign of someone who is deeply flawed.
Most of the skepticism could be put to bed if he made any attempt to have a relationship with the people who have financed him. He says "trust me" then shows up on Vlad TV with a gold medallion to address backlash he received in the wake of comments he made about homosexuality, but what people want to know is what's happening with this school.
semi-auto-mato
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The question is because of the middle initial R. There is a book that is credited to Umar R Abdullah Johnson. Umar Johnson does not claim this book nor does he use the R. It could be him but it might not be him. Plenty of people dont use their middle initials. its a quick and easy fix though that he can spend 5 minutes on.
Title The Relationship Between Self-concept and Academic Achievement in African American Middle-school Students: A Correlational Study
Author Umar R. Abdullah-Johnson
Publisher Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine, 2012
Length 150 pages
Title The Relationship Between Self-concept and Academic Achievement in African American Middle-school Students: A Correlational Study
Author Umar R. Abdullah-Johnson
Publisher Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine, 2012
Length 150 pages
Undefeatable
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I am not a follower of his, but I don't understand the skepticism about this brother's education. Why are people skeptical? Is is that he doesn't "act like a PhD," or doesn't sound like one?
