Dr Umar Johnson coming for Sara Suten Seti soul

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mrrealone;c-9572359 said:
rofl @ Tattoo from Fantasy Island.....

I made a post about these "conscious" brothers not too long ago. I don't know why they always beefin'. Should've seen the video Seti made towards Genie lol. Never understood why they use "nigga" like its nothing either......

They use nigga like they do because that's how niggas talk and they want niggas to stop being stupid niggas and to do that you have to talk to stupid niggas in a way that they can understand
 
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these niggas say nigga more than any rapper

fuck all these niggas

"keep flossin on these niggas"

"get fresh"

"get fucked up"

"get fucked"

 
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Some of ya are getting in the community now but it really popped off online with Phil Valentine and Bobby Hemmitt via sa neter tv.In my opinion I got on by the IC steve crokley talking about the illuminati but he died a while ago this whole conscious community is really old.I wont go deep into it unless someone is interested.
 
Cabana_Da_Don;c-9572622 said:
Some of ya are getting in the community now but it really popped off online with Phil Valentine and Bobby Hemmitt via sa neter tv.In my opinion I got on by the IC steve crokley talking about the illuminati but he died a while ago this whole conscious community is really old.I wont go deep into it unless someone is interested.

Go ahead and go deep
 
mrrealone;c-9572359 said:
rofl @ Tattoo from Fantasy Island.....

I made a post about these "conscious" brothers not too long ago. I don't know why they always beefin'. Should've seen the video Seti made towards Genie lol. Never understood why they use "nigga" like its nothing either......

I touched on it in the Tariq thread(s) but I'll reiterate

Yes,they do "some" good within the community, but ultimately this "pro-black conscious" thing is nothing more but a hustle and financial come up to many of these guys.

And the reason they beef so much bores down to "market share".

They all are rallying for the same (relative small) demographic which they know has limited funds to begin with.

In essence it's like dope boys fighting over a corner.

Yeah, they talk that "the black community NEEDS to come together to end white supremacy,shit.

But these guys have no interest in ending white supremacy,let alone seeing black people unity.

If by some chance that WERE to happen,where would that lead them????

Exactly

 
If dude said that Dr. Johnson was trying to set up a school for boys to get into the pants of their mothers, that was mad disrespectful. But his reaction was clearly not appropriate.
 
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Elzo69Renaissance;c-9572360 said:
These niggas really acting like fuckboy rappers

They posture like rappers, sounds like em...

...if it quacks like a duck, it looks like a duck.

All these niggas are narcissists that care more about their ego than anything else.
 
7figz;c-9572711 said:
I thought this started with Umar saying some shit about bringing Seti to a tribunal.

Umar was just trying to make peace between sa neter and seti he wanted the beef in the community to stop so he put forth a suggestion that maybe the older folks could mediate but seti was not down with that shit and got disrespectful. Umar responded on some fuck you nigga lets go to war shit.... and frankly i don't see how anyone can blame Umar.
 
Did Umar accept the challenge to show some type of blueprint and curriculum for his school venture? Has he made any strides in that direction?

Has there been a Psy. D. attributed to any of of his aliases (Shoemake or Johnson)? If he is a doctor, where is his dissertation?

Has he substantiated his claim that he is a true descendant of Fredrick Douglas? (This claim has been debunked by the Douglas family.)

If you're an academic, you know that you have to show and prove. He literally refuses to do that with any claim he has made.

He is too dishonest to be a leader of anyone, he is a second-string Creflo Dollar.
 
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Dude... it's not not a stretch to believe he has his doctorate. He's said repeatedly where he received his education from and no one from any of those institutions have refuted it.

Not to cape for Umar, but some of yall act like a ph.D. is so rare that he couldn't possibly have one.
 
Leadership ideals that should be written in stone whether you are workin at Mc Donalds or a self appointed leader of anything..

With great power comes great responsibility...

a measure of discipline/virtue

Willingness to listen

tact

logical/pragmatic

measured

thoughtful

knowledgeable

having the humility to look at yourself as not THE leader/ prophet

you ambition must take a back seat to your SERVICE.

yadda yadda yadda.. just some of the qualities that I think shot be non negotiable

oh you cant be a buffoon /coon as a leader of a black liberation movement.
 
Ajackson17;c-9572115 said:
The only leader is yourself. Realest shit. You build conglomerates not run to leaders, infrastructure is superior to a leader any day. Multiple people putting input that are vetted and verified. We just have to think logically and creative and create a modern culture to ourselves.

What changed for you from December 13th to now? You nosigned my post when I disagreed.

Ajackson17 On the shoulders of Giants and Elders in history UniversePosts: 21,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

December 13

Tariq, Dr. Umar Johnson, Sa Neter, and Louis Farrakhan are our black leaders.

 
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D. Morgan;c-9572937 said:
Ajackson17;c-9572115 said:
The only leader is yourself. Realest shit. You build conglomerates not run to leaders, infrastructure is superior to a leader any day. Multiple people putting input that are vetted and verified. We just have to think logically and creative and create a modern culture to ourselves.

What changed for you from December 13th to now? You nosigned my post when I disagreed.

Ajackson17 On the shoulders of Giants and Elders in history UniversePosts: 21,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

December 13

Tariq, Dr. Umar Johnson, Sa Neter, and Louis Farrakhan are our black leaders.

I was messing with y'all. I remember not one of your posts
 
Ajackson17;c-9572940 said:
D. Morgan;c-9572937 said:
Ajackson17;c-9572115 said:
The only leader is yourself. Realest shit. You build conglomerates not run to leaders, infrastructure is superior to a leader any day. Multiple people putting input that are vetted and verified. We just have to think logically and creative and create a modern culture to ourselves.

What changed for you from December 13th to now? You nosigned my post when I disagreed.

Ajackson17 On the shoulders of Giants and Elders in history UniversePosts: 21,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

December 13

Tariq, Dr. Umar Johnson, Sa Neter, and Louis Farrakhan are our black leaders.

I was messing with y'all. I remember not one of your posts

I couldn't careless if you or anyone else remembers anything I post. I just wanted you to answer my question. Which you did cool.
 
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eh...

umar is alright when he is on topic by himself but he hates to be challenged and takes shit over board. the type of cat you fuck with to accomplish a goal when you know you're on 1 accord but don't fuck with otherwise.

i could care less about him calling himself a doctor...blah blah..i don't value the western education system enough to exalt it as a bench mark in my mind, its just a means to an end. One small issue I have with listening to B Watkins is he's constantly challenging the "white system" while exalting the white educational system like it's epitome of success. Never heard Umar rattle off any school names though and at least he's (supposedly) trying to change the system for kids....but anyway.

Ppl lose the focus when they try to elevate these guys to "christ"-like status caring about if they curse, if they get mad, yell, use the work "nigga", etc. At the end of the day it's just men airing out grievances as men talking shit, etc.

But with the above said, besides the blakmagik363/ugr platform, I've had to tune most of these "conscious" cats out in the last few months, un-subscribed from all their youtube channels, don't check for their information, etc. it's like these niggas are distracting themselves with intangibles instead of dealing with the real world. I don't even want that way of thinking influencing my own "concious-ness" and "energy" sub-consciously. I still listen to most of the old school info in my spare time though. They're turning something useful into soap opera reality show bullshit.

now a days dudes is going off the rails with these asinine wanna be smack dvd debates that don't mean shit in my opinion.... who beat who with information....who gives a fuck...it's about can you APPLY the information to better the people in the real world and see results.
 
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