Dr Ali Muhammad vs ISUPK Hebrews

[Bodhi]

The whore of Revelation is arrayed in purple and scarlet. In no way, shape, or form does this describe America and those that think so conveniently skip that. The Roman Catholic Church officials, the bishops and cardinals wore purple and scarlet.

 

[Bodhi]

The whore is also sitting on seven mountains, obviously the seven hills of Rome. This, again, cannot possibly be a description of America

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

In revelation A nation is described as being a beast not a harlot or city, a harlot is a religion

the harlot rides a beast so in other words this harlot which is represented by a city is going to be in control of a beast which means this beast with many heads has to have an offical religion

America is against having official religions also pretty much all nations kiss saudi arabia ass because of the oil.

so arabia has a city that rules the world in some sense, it has an offical religion that hates and has killed christians also the kaabaa is covered in a material called the kiswah that is patterned with gold trimmings like it's a fucking skirt

revelation 17

" With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.'

revlation 18

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!!!

The beast is not a religion. The beast is the antichrist indwelt by Satan.

Your doctrine is so far gone, you've missed everything.

You need to study because you are totally off the mark.

The beast is described in Revelation 17 and Revelation 12 and 13. Go study before you chime in again, because everything your posting is absolute rubbish! You're talking out of your rear and it's producing the same stuff that comes out of it. Scust.

The beast is not a religion, the harlot is the religion and beast is a nation/empire read what i write. the antichrist will be indwelt by satan. beast in the book of revelation represent various nations. you claim to be into end times prophecy and you don't know that. I know the "america is babylon" interpretation is popular but it is wrong.

The muslim in prophecy there is a figure called "the mahdi" he will be the antichrist.

Still wrong. The harlot is not a religion. The harlot is Babylon the Great, which is the United States of America.

The beast is the antichrist who will be indwelt by Satan. Read revelation 12 and 13

America is Babylon is not a popular interpretation. It's the right interpretation.

The antichrist hasn't been revealed yet and he won't be revealed until after Babylon the Great is destroyed. Read revelation 14

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

There isn't going to be a mass exodus of Christians from America because most of them believe false teachings like you. Teachings like a pre-trib rapture or the one that your spouting which states that Babylon the Great is anything other than the United States of America.

God has given those who listen 2 choices about where to go

-Your own country of origin because Babylon the Great is a land of immigrants (so much for the Mecca idea, SMH)



"Cut off the sower from Babylon, and him that handleth the sickle in the time of harvest: for fear of the oppressing sword they shall turn every one to his people, and they shall flee every one to his own land." Jeremiah 50:16



"We would have healed Babylon, but she is not healed: forsake her, and let us go every one into his own country: for her judgment reacheth unto heaven, and is lifted up even to the skies." Jeremiah 51:9

-Option #2 which is the way that God is leading me, is to go to Israel

"In those days and at that time," declares the LORD, "the sons of Israel will come, both they and the sons of Judah as well; they will go along weeping as they go, and it will be the LORD their God they will seek. 5"They will ask for the way to Zion, turning their faces in its direction; they will come that they may join themselves to the LORD in an everlasting covenant that will not be forgotten." Jeremiah 50:4-5



"Ye that have escaped the sword, go away, stand not still: remember the LORD afar off, and let Jerusalem come into your mind." Jeremiah 51:50

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

First, mystery Babylon represents a religion, as @zombie says or more specifically a church. Any time an analogy like this is made in the bible, a woman is a metaphor for a church. To compare, Ephesians 5:25 says, "Husbands, love your wives as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her" and Jesus is constantly referred to throughout the new testament as the "bridegroom" to the Church. Compare also Revelation 21 which describes New Jerusalem as a bride adorned for her husband, which is in stark contrast to the whore, Babylon. However, the city that is New Jerusalem is itself a Church being married to Christ, there is no need for a traditional temple as explained in the verses.

You don't even have the Holy Spirit dwelling inside of you. Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior first my friend. You over here trying to eat a whole cow before even being able to digest milk. Start the race first my friend. Amen.

 

[zombie]

In revelation A nation is described as being a beast not a harlot or city, a harlot is a religion

the harlot rides a beast so in other words this harlot which is represented by a city is going to be in control of a beast which means this beast with many heads has to have an offical religion

America is against having official religions also pretty much all nations kiss saudi arabia ass because of the oil.

so arabia has a city that rules the world in some sense, it has an offical religion that hates and has killed christians also the kaabaa is covered in a material called the kiswah that is patterned with gold trimmings like it's a fucking skirt

revelation 17

" With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.'

revlation 18

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!!!

The beast is not a religion. The beast is the antichrist indwelt by Satan.

Your doctrine is so far gone, you've missed everything.

You need to study because you are totally off the mark.

The beast is described in Revelation 17 and Revelation 12 and 13. Go study before you chime in again, because everything your posting is absolute rubbish! You're talking out of your rear and it's producing the same stuff that comes out of it. Scust.

The beast is not a religion, the harlot is the religion and beast is a nation/empire read what i write. the antichrist will be indwelt by satan. beast in the book of revelation represent various nations. you claim to be into end times prophecy and you don't know that. I know the "america is babylon" interpretation is popular but it is wrong.

The muslim in prophecy there is a figure called "the mahdi" he will be the antichrist.

Still wrong. The harlot is not a religion. The harlot is Babylon the Great, which is the United States of America.

The beast is the antichrist who will be indwelt by Satan. Read revelation 12 and 13

America is Babylon is not a popular interpretation. It's the right interpretation.

The antichrist hasn't been revealed yet and he won't be revealed until after Babylon the Great is destroyed. Read revelation 14

Man you need to stop even @Bodhi has a better understanding than you do i am sorry i know your heart is in the right place but you are wrong all over the bible the symbol of a religion is a woman.

 

[zombie]

First, mystery Babylon represents a religion, as @zombie says or more specifically a church. Any time an analogy like this is made in the bible, a woman is a metaphor for a church. To compare, Ephesians 5:25 says, "Husbands, love your wives as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her" and Jesus is constantly referred to throughout the new testament as the "bridegroom" to the Church. Compare also Revelation 21 which describes New Jerusalem as a bride adorned for her husband, which is in stark contrast to the whore, Babylon. However, the city that is New Jerusalem is itself a Church being married to Christ, there is no need for a traditional temple as explained in the verses.

You don't even have the Holy Spirit dwelling inside of you. Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior first my friend. You over here trying to eat a whole cow before even being able to digest milk. Start the race first my friend. Amen.

You are very self righteous i know what my faults are you think you know it all when clearly you don't

 

[zombie]

There isn't going to be a mass exodus of Christians from America because most of them believe false teachings like you. Teachings like a pre-trib rapture or the one that your spouting which states that Babylon the Great is anything other than the United States of America.

God has given those who listen 2 choices about where to go

-Your own country of origin because Babylon the Great is a land of immigrants (so much for the Mecca idea, SMH)



"Cut off the sower from Babylon, and him that handleth the sickle in the time of harvest: for fear of the oppressing sword they shall turn every one to his people, and they shall flee every one to his own land." Jeremiah 50:16



"We would have healed Babylon, but she is not healed: forsake her, and let us go every one into his own country: for her judgment reacheth unto heaven, and is lifted up even to the skies." Jeremiah 51:9

-Option #2 which is the way that God is leading me, is to go to Israel

"In those days and at that time," declares the LORD, "the sons of Israel will come, both they and the sons of Judah as well; they will go along weeping as they go, and it will be the LORD their God they will seek. 5"They will ask for the way to Zion, turning their faces in its direction; they will come that they may join themselves to the LORD in an everlasting covenant that will not be forgotten." Jeremiah 50:4-5



"Ye that have escaped the sword, go away, stand not still: remember the LORD afar off, and let Jerusalem come into your mind." Jeremiah 51:50

arabia imports many many servants/immigrants from all over the world and they treat them like slaves

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_workers_in_Saudi_Arabia

 

[zombie]

God warns his people who are living in Babylon to “come out of her” – to flee, for she is about to be judge severely. Here, we find a direct allusion to another Old Testament prophecy concerning Babylon. Jeremiah 50 and 51 repeatedly reference the need to flee Babylon with the same rendering as in Revelation. “My people, go out of the midst of her” (Jeremiah 51:45). “Flee out of Babylon and leave the land of the Babylonians. Be like the goats that lead the flock” (Jeremiah 50:8). “Flee from Babylon! Run for your lives! Do not be destroyed because of her sins. It is time for Jehovah’s vengeance; he will pay her what she deserves” (Jeremiah 51:6). “We would have healed Babylon, but she is not healed: forsake her, and let us go every one into his own country: for judgment reached unto heaven, and is lifted up even to the skies” (Jeremiah 51:9).

Notice that those who are warned are told to flee, “every one into his own country.” which means that the BELIEVERS who are told to flee are from somewhere else. but most christians in america were born here in america.

Saudi arabia however is filled with a large foreign labor-force that is only used for labor and never offered citizenship. There are thousand of western born people working there and chances are many of them are christians.

 

[Black Boy King]

Notice that those who are warned are told to flee, “every one into his own country.” which means that the BELIEVERS who are told to flee are from somewhere else. but most christians in america were born here in america.

OMG

THIS NIGGA.

WTF

U NEED TO SIT DOWN

 

[zombie]

Notice that those who are warned are told to flee, “every one into his own country.” which means that the BELIEVERS who are told to flee are from somewhere else. but most christians in america were born here in america.

OMG

THIS NIGGA.

WTF

U NEED TO SIT DOWN

You are a hebrew israelite you are not taken serious by anybody you are part of the most ignorant backwards dumbass cult in the black community and even the world. To be quite honest with you I wish all you fools would just stop talking to be about religion. Black people in the americas are not the genetic decendants of the people in the bible learn to deal with it

 

[Black Boy King]

You're so right man, I'm sorry

 

[Ajackson17]

Pokémon shit. I'll knock Yahwah out and Satan out. They'll learn to not have their beef around me.

 

[beenwize]

I won't have time to read all these replies. Lol

 

[zombie]

I won't have time to read all these replies. Lol

@beenwize let me sum it up for you I say mystery babylon is mecca douwant2gotoheaven says it's america

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

Let me read some of this and catch up. Then I'll chime in.

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

This is a good thread. Brother @DoUwant2go2Heaven?‌

And @zombie‌ i applaud your contributions.

I have to side with dou because there too much biblical evidence of America being an extension of ancient Babylon or "daughter of Babylon"

Psalms 137 also makes some interesting implication....

Israelites were forced to sing "songs of Zion". Negro spirituals? Over the river Jordan? "let my people go"? Lol...thats another topic though

But @zombie its clear that America is a melting pot. And revelations 18 speaks about all nations being "drunk from the wrath of her fornication"....

Come on man....i can respect the fact that you are willing to fight for what you believe. But Arabia being Babylon just doesn't fit.

 

[zombie]

This is a good thread. Brother @DoUwant2go2Heaven?‌

And @zombie‌ i applaud your contributions.

I have to side with dou because there too much biblical evidence of America being an extension of ancient Babylon or "daughter of Babylon"

Psalms 137 also makes some interesting implication....

Israelites were forced to sing "songs of Zion". Negro spirituals? Over the river Jordan? "let my people go"? Lol...thats another topic though

But @zombie its clear that America is a melting pot. And revelations 18 speaks about all nations being "drunk from the wrath of her fornication"....

Come on man....i can respect the fact that you are willing to fight for what you believe. But Arabia being Babylon just doesn't fit.

My friend the hebrew israelite ideology is false. Medina was once part of the old babylon and there are many nations all over the worrld that are racial melting pots more so than america once again you americans are obsessed with america. The geographical location is given to were mystery babylon is going to be and it's in a dessert also it's a city not an entire nation and that city will represent an entire religion.

America would fit better into your hebrew israelite thinking but you have to throw that shit away it's a total lie

 

[Ajackson17]

I have to side with @zombie . If America was part of the catholic religion then I would I say so but we are mostly protestant.

 

[waterproof]

I have to side with @zombie . If America was part of the catholic religion then I would I say so but we are mostly protestant.

America is apart of the Catholic religion, y'all just to blind to see and lazy on y'all studies