Don't you ever get tired of threatening people with Hell?

[BiblicalAtheist]

IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE RELIGION THEN EITHER WE ARE GOING TO ACCEPT WHAT THE RELIGION SAYS AND CRITIQUE THAT OR THE CONVERSATION WILL BE ALL OVER THE PLACE and be unproductive

So are you taking back what you said that "Your entire position is Roflolol to any one who knows anything about religion or for that matter anyone who has ever actually suffered pain" because it was a gross enroneous assupmtion?

I AM NOT MAKING ANY assumption about the religion,

Are you intentionally being deceptive or are you playing games? Cuz I was specifically calling this "so you can talk all the nonsense you want but i can bet you that you have never really suffered a day in your life" an assumption.

in the religion of Christianity there is the concept of hell and that is not my assumption it is fact.

It is assumed and accepted on faith there is a hell based off what a religious book says.

The people in the west are spoiled rotten and if my assumption about your lack of ever having suffered any real pain is wrong then enlighten me what exactly have you suffered??

You make assumptions about me, then demand I prove you right? What?

A white canadian woman in 2016 what the fuck have you suffered?? I mean seriously gtfoh YOUR pondering nonsense is a luxury of being rich.

Grabbing at any stick you can eh? Stick to the topic instead of throwing assumptions and insults to make your point. It makes you look stupid and inept at holding in intelligent conversation or debate.

 

[zzombie]

IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE RELIGION THEN EITHER WE ARE GOING TO ACCEPT WHAT THE RELIGION SAYS AND CRITIQUE THAT OR THE CONVERSATION WILL BE ALL OVER THE PLACE and be unproductive

So are you taking back what you said that "Your entire position is Roflolol to any one who knows anything about religion or for that matter anyone who has ever actually suffered pain" because it was a gross enroneous assupmtion?

I AM NOT MAKING ANY assumption about the religion,

Are you intentionally being deceptive or are you playing games? Cuz I was specifically calling this "so you can talk all the nonsense you want but i can bet you that you have never really suffered a day in your life" an assumption.

in the religion of Christianity there is the concept of hell and that is not my assumption it is fact.

It is assumed and accepted on faith there is a hell based off what a religious book says.

The people in the west are spoiled rotten and if my assumption about your lack of ever having suffered any real pain is wrong then enlighten me what exactly have you suffered??

You make assumptions about me, then demand I prove you right? What?

A white canadian woman in 2016 what the fuck have you suffered?? I mean seriously gtfoh YOUR pondering nonsense is a luxury of being rich.

Grabbing at any stick you can eh? Stick to the topic instead of throwing assumptions and insults to make your point. It makes you look stupid and inept at holding in intelligent conversation or debate.

I am not taking back anything i said and nothing i said about the religion and it's view of hell was an assumption

WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE RELIGION OF COURSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE TEXT SAYS... WHAT would be an assumption would be talking about the religion without talking about the text because the TEXT IS THE RELGION

If my assumptions about you are wrong then refute them??? tell me what pain have you suffered??? you scoff at my example of real suffering deserving the punishment of god and i believe this is because you have never suffered any real pain therefore you lack a certain understanding.

My original example was made just to make a point, IT WAS to show you why hell is a valid and good concept it was not meant to be an attack on you personally... but for you or anyone to scoff at the idea of hell for evil people while never having been a victim of themselves of evil people is very disrespectful

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

I am not taking back anything i said and nothing i said about the religion and it's view of hell was an assumption

This is what I am talking about and what I referenced in another thread as to why I don't engage you in debate because you cannot follow along with what is said. You make things up, make assupmtions and then expect other to follow along with your rants and debate those!

WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE RELIGION OF COURSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE TEXT SAYS... WHAT would be an assumption would be talking about the religion without talking about the text because the TEXT IS THE RELGION

Except this isn't what you were doing, you did everything but talk about the text. Would like me to repost everything you said?

If my assumptions about you are wrong then refute them??? tell me what pain have you suffered??? you scoff at my example of real suffering deserving the punishment of god and i believe this is because you have never suffered any real pain therefore you lack a certain understanding.

Why not take your assumptions of me on faith like you do hell? I lack understanding of suffering because I don't hold the same belief that bad people should suffer for all eternity? Sorry I reject sadism.

My original example was made just to make a point, IT WAS to show you why hell is a valid and good concept it was not meant to be an attack on you personally...

Saying hell is valid and a good concept because humans aren't content with bad people just being dead, is not a valid argument. Unless we are arguing the validity of how sadistic the human mind really is.

but for you or anyone to scoff at the idea of hell for evil people while never having been a victim of themselves of evil people is very disrespectful

That makes no logical sense, at all.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

I only ROFL about your idea that bad people suffer for all eternity because it's ridiculous, it atones for nothing. It doesn't correct the sins, it doesn't take them away it doesn't even benefit the victims! it just makes them FEEL better THINKING/BELIEVING a bad person will suffer at some point for what they've done.

 

[zzombie]

I only ROFL about your idea that bad people suffer for all eternity because it's ridiculous, it atones for nothing. It doesn't correct the sins, it doesn't take them away it doesn't even benefit the victims! it just makes them FEEL better THINKING/BELIEVING a bad person will suffer at some point for what they've done.

it was meant correct sin or take sin away.. we are talking about religion everything is about believing AND IT'S NOT MY IDEA I DID NOT CREATE HELL.... HELL IS PART OF THE RELIGION.

 

[zzombie]

I am not taking back anything i said and nothing i said about the religion and it's view of hell was an assumption

This is what I am talking about and what I referenced in another thread as to why I don't engage you in debate because you cannot follow along with what is said. You make things up, make assupmtions and then expect other to follow along with your rants and debate those!

WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE RELIGION OF COURSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE TEXT SAYS... WHAT would be an assumption would be talking about the religion without talking about the text because the TEXT IS THE RELGION

Except this isn't what you were doing, you did everything but talk about the text. Would like me to repost everything you said?

If my assumptions about you are wrong then refute them??? tell me what pain have you suffered??? you scoff at my example of real suffering deserving the punishment of god and i believe this is because you have never suffered any real pain therefore you lack a certain understanding.

Why not take your assumptions of me on faith like you do hell? I lack understanding of suffering because I don't hold the same belief that bad people should suffer for all eternity? Sorry I reject sadism.

My original example was made just to make a point, IT WAS to show you why hell is a valid and good concept it was not meant to be an attack on you personally...

Saying hell is valid and a good concept because humans aren't content with bad people just being dead, is not a valid argument. Unless we are arguing the validity of how sadistic the human mind really is.

but for you or anyone to scoff at the idea of hell for evil people while never having been a victim of themselves of evil people is very disrespectful

That makes no logical sense, at all.

SMH WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE RELIGION OR NOT??? HELL BEING A VALID CONCEPT DOES NOT COME FROM THE HUMAN MIND IT COMES FROM GOD. EVERYTHING i have been saying to you comes from the text therefore it comes from GOD. WHO feels it knows it you cannot pass judgement on the concept of hell for evil people unless you have been wronged by evil people

I really no longer understand what the fuck you are talking about

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

I only ROFL about your idea that bad people suffer for all eternity because it's ridiculous, it atones for nothing. It doesn't correct the sins, it doesn't take them away it doesn't even benefit the victims! it just makes them FEEL better THINKING/BELIEVING a bad person will suffer at some point for what they've done.

it was meant correct sin or take sin away.. we are talking about religion everything is about believing AND IT'S NOT MY IDEA I DID NOT CREATE HELL.... HELL IS PART OF THE RELIGION.

Someone suffering in hell for all eternity doesn't correct or take away sin. Stopping the action stops the sin. If someone truly understands their errors, they normally cease doing them, and that was good enough for jesus.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

I am not taking back anything i said and nothing i said about the religion and it's view of hell was an assumption

This is what I am talking about and what I referenced in another thread as to why I don't engage you in debate because you cannot follow along with what is said. You make things up, make assupmtions and then expect other to follow along with your rants and debate those!

WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE RELIGION OF COURSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE TEXT SAYS... WHAT would be an assumption would be talking about the religion without talking about the text because the TEXT IS THE RELGION

Except this isn't what you were doing, you did everything but talk about the text. Would like me to repost everything you said?

If my assumptions about you are wrong then refute them??? tell me what pain have you suffered??? you scoff at my example of real suffering deserving the punishment of god and i believe this is because you have never suffered any real pain therefore you lack a certain understanding.

Why not take your assumptions of me on faith like you do hell? I lack understanding of suffering because I don't hold the same belief that bad people should suffer for all eternity? Sorry I reject sadism.

My original example was made just to make a point, IT WAS to show you why hell is a valid and good concept it was not meant to be an attack on you personally...

Saying hell is valid and a good concept because humans aren't content with bad people just being dead, is not a valid argument. Unless we are arguing the validity of how sadistic the human mind really is.

but for you or anyone to scoff at the idea of hell for evil people while never having been a victim of themselves of evil people is very disrespectful

That makes no logical sense, at all.

SMH WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE RELIGION OR NOT??? HELL BEING A VALID CONCEPT DOES NOT COME FROM THE HUMAN MIND IT COMES FROM GOD. EVERYTHING i have been saying to you comes from the text therefore it comes from GOD. WHO feels it knows it you cannot pass judgement on the concept of hell for evil people unless you have been wronged by evil people

I really no longer understand what the fuck you are talking about

Oh man you're unbelievable for real. You cant' even follow along with what you yourself have been saying and now you're flipping it back on me? I'm so fucking done going back and forth with your wack thought processes.

 

[zzombie]

I am not taking back anything i said and nothing i said about the religion and it's view of hell was an assumption

This is what I am talking about and what I referenced in another thread as to why I don't engage you in debate because you cannot follow along with what is said. You make things up, make assupmtions and then expect other to follow along with your rants and debate those!

WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE RELIGION OF COURSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE TEXT SAYS... WHAT would be an assumption would be talking about the religion without talking about the text because the TEXT IS THE RELGION

Except this isn't what you were doing, you did everything but talk about the text. Would like me to repost everything you said?

If my assumptions about you are wrong then refute them??? tell me what pain have you suffered??? you scoff at my example of real suffering deserving the punishment of god and i believe this is because you have never suffered any real pain therefore you lack a certain understanding.

Why not take your assumptions of me on faith like you do hell? I lack understanding of suffering because I don't hold the same belief that bad people should suffer for all eternity? Sorry I reject sadism.

My original example was made just to make a point, IT WAS to show you why hell is a valid and good concept it was not meant to be an attack on you personally...

Saying hell is valid and a good concept because humans aren't content with bad people just being dead, is not a valid argument. Unless we are arguing the validity of how sadistic the human mind really is.

but for you or anyone to scoff at the idea of hell for evil people while never having been a victim of themselves of evil people is very disrespectful

That makes no logical sense, at all.

SMH WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE RELIGION OR NOT??? HELL BEING A VALID CONCEPT DOES NOT COME FROM THE HUMAN MIND IT COMES FROM GOD. EVERYTHING i have been saying to you comes from the text therefore it comes from GOD. WHO feels it knows it you cannot pass judgement on the concept of hell for evil people unless you have been wronged by evil people

I really no longer understand what the fuck you are talking about

Oh man you're unbelievable for real. You cant' even follow along with what you yourself have been saying and now you're flipping it back on me? I'm so fucking done going back and forth with your wack thought processes.

what the fuck are you talking about??? i have been consistent with what i have been saying to you

 

[zzombie]

I only ROFL about your idea that bad people suffer for all eternity because it's ridiculous, it atones for nothing. It doesn't correct the sins, it doesn't take them away it doesn't even benefit the victims! it just makes them FEEL better THINKING/BELIEVING a bad person will suffer at some point for what they've done.

it was meant correct sin or take sin away.. we are talking about religion everything is about believing AND IT'S NOT MY IDEA I DID NOT CREATE HELL.... HELL IS PART OF THE RELIGION.

Someone suffering in hell for all eternity doesn't correct or take away sin. Stopping the action stops the sin. If someone truly understands their errors, they normally cease doing them, and that was good enough for jesus.

THAT WAS A mistake I MEANT to say " it was not meant to correct sin" i said something earlier to that effect and you would have caught it if you were paying attention.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

So I wasn't paying attention when I read this:

all that innocent blood has to be atoned for

Pretty sure that's what got this all rolling down hill into a big pile of steaming shit like you're well known for starting.

If I didn't know better, I'd swear you were a chick.

 

[zzombie]

So I wasn't paying attention when I read this:

all that innocent blood has to be atoned for

Pretty sure that's what got this all rolling down hill into a big pile of steaming shit like you're well known for starting.

If I didn't know better, I'd swear you were a chick.

The atonement aka the punishment of hell is not about stopping sin it's just a JUST punishment BECAUSE THOSE WHO DO EVIL and die without Christ cannot atone for their sins. therefore THEY END UP IN HELL... WHICH IS part of the reason I BROUGHT UP THE example i made for you.

those people who are evil and live long happy lives never atone innocent blood must be atoned for but if it never is then HELL IS WHERE YOU GO

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

So I wasn't paying attention when I read this:

all that innocent blood has to be atoned for

Pretty sure that's what got this all rolling down hill into a big pile of steaming shit like you're well known for starting.

If I didn't know better, I'd swear you were a chick.

The atonement aka the punishment of hell is not about stopping sin it's just a JUST punishment BECAUSE THOSE WHO DO EVIL and die without Christ cannot atone for their sins. therefore THEY END UP IN HELL... WHICH IS WHY I BROUGHT UP THE example i made for you.

those people who are evil and live long happy lives never atone

So if a person doesn't amend or recompense(atone) their sins, they go to hell for eternity?

It's a ridiculous concept. Whether it was "inspired" by god or made in the mind of man, it's ridiculous.

 

[R0mp]

Does the bible state whether pain pleasure or fear is felt in the afterlife?

 

[zzombie]

So I wasn't paying attention when I read this:

all that innocent blood has to be atoned for

Pretty sure that's what got this all rolling down hill into a big pile of steaming shit like you're well known for starting.

If I didn't know better, I'd swear you were a chick.

The atonement aka the punishment of hell is not about stopping sin it's just a JUST punishment BECAUSE THOSE WHO DO EVIL and die without Christ cannot atone for their sins. therefore THEY END UP IN HELL... WHICH IS WHY I BROUGHT UP THE example i made for you.

those people who are evil and live long happy lives never atone

So if a person doesn't amend or recompense(atone) their sins, they go to hell for eternity?

It's a ridiculous concept. Whether it was "inspired" by god or made in the mind of man, it's ridiculous.

You atone for your sins through Christ if you don't then you go to hell and what do you expect??? for evil people to also be allowed into heaven and never be punished for their wrong doings???.... you can think it is a ridiculous concept all you want but you're just a human being and YOU WILL STAND BEFORE GOD AND WHAT you think will be irrelevant then.

AS FOR THE ETERNITY OF HELL????? that is another topic altogether, when you sin you alter reality as god would wish it to be the damage you are doing is actually incalculable

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

So I wasn't paying attention when I read this:

all that innocent blood has to be atoned for

Pretty sure that's what got this all rolling down hill into a big pile of steaming shit like you're well known for starting.

If I didn't know better, I'd swear you were a chick.

The atonement aka the punishment of hell is not about stopping sin it's just a JUST punishment BECAUSE THOSE WHO DO EVIL and die without Christ cannot atone for their sins. therefore THEY END UP IN HELL... WHICH IS WHY I BROUGHT UP THE example i made for you.

those people who are evil and live long happy lives never atone

So if a person doesn't amend or recompense(atone) their sins, they go to hell for eternity?

It's a ridiculous concept. Whether it was "inspired" by god or made in the mind of man, it's ridiculous.

You atone for your sins through Christ if you don't then you go to hell and what do you expect??? for evil people to also be allowed into heaven and never be punished for their wrong doings???.... you can think it is a ridiculous concept all you want but you're just a human being and YOU WILL STAND BEFORE GOD AND WHAT you think will be irrelevant then.

AS FOR THE ETERNITY OF HELL????? that is another topic altogether, when you sin you alter reality as god would wish it to be the damage you are doing is actually incalculable

I stand before god every minute of every day. I practice ever day at becoming perfect *under the eyes of god even tho I know I can never be perfect.

 

[zzombie]

So I wasn't paying attention when I read this:

all that innocent blood has to be atoned for

Pretty sure that's what got this all rolling down hill into a big pile of steaming shit like you're well known for starting.

If I didn't know better, I'd swear you were a chick.

The atonement aka the punishment of hell is not about stopping sin it's just a JUST punishment BECAUSE THOSE WHO DO EVIL and die without Christ cannot atone for their sins. therefore THEY END UP IN HELL... WHICH IS WHY I BROUGHT UP THE example i made for you.

those people who are evil and live long happy lives never atone

So if a person doesn't amend or recompense(atone) their sins, they go to hell for eternity?

It's a ridiculous concept. Whether it was "inspired" by god or made in the mind of man, it's ridiculous.

You atone for your sins through Christ if you don't then you go to hell and what do you expect??? for evil people to also be allowed into heaven and never be punished for their wrong doings???.... you can think it is a ridiculous concept all you want but you're just a human being and YOU WILL STAND BEFORE GOD AND WHAT you think will be irrelevant then.

AS FOR THE ETERNITY OF HELL????? that is another topic altogether, when you sin you alter reality as god would wish it to be the damage you are doing is actually incalculable

I stand before god every minute of every day. I practice ever day at becoming perfect *under the eyes of god even tho I know I can never be perfect.

WELL i meant for the final judgement

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

WELL i meant for the final judgement

Well why not make the list of things to answer for smaller while I wait.

 

[zzombie]

WELL i meant for the final judgement

Well why not make the list of things to answer for smaller while I wait.

I don't make the list god does because he knows all your personal business and more importantly he knows your hearts motivations and deepest feelings.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

No shit Sherlock.