Don't ask, Don't tell = One of the main reasons why Babylon falls!

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Why ask, logic tells you um because they didn't know otherwise.

Jesus already told them he wasn't born blind due to win, thats the point and VERY RELEVANT to our discussion because you're saying the man was born due to sin. For real if you can't acknowledge that or even comprehend it, then you have officially become more stupid than gee757.

(keep muh name out YO mouf u faceless monkee, - I know gee shut up)
 
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VIBE86;3369705 said:
Why ask, logic tells you um because they didn't know otherwise.

Jesus already told them he wasn't born blind due to win, thats the point and VERY RELEVANT to our discussion because you're saying the man was born due to sin. For real if you can't acknowledge that or even comprehend it, then you have officially become more stupid than gee757.

(keep muh name out YO mouf u faceless monkee, - I know gee shut up)

why wud the disciples be so stupid to ask that question unless they knew that some people were born blind because of previous sins, the disciples KNEW OF REINCARNATION.

thats why there was so much speculation as to who jesus was...

mark 8: 27And Jesus went out, and his disciples, into the towns of Caesarea Philippi: and by the way he asked his disciples, saying unto them, Whom do men say that I am? 28And they answered, John the Baptist: but some say, Elias; and others, One of the prophets.

^^ people thought jesus was the reincarnation of one of the prophets or elijah or even john the baptist lol...

obviously they knew about reincarnation back then...

stop trying to debate me vibe...honestly...ahh well, at least your learning.
 
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One Spliff;3369571 said:
no, because his blindness was already a punishment.

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So if his parents sinned, he got the punishment? What if being born gay was the punishment? then he would deserve death because of what his parents did?

How much punishment are sins worth? What sins are greater than others? I thought the Bible said all sin is the same
 
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Jaded Righteousness;3369830 said:
So if his parents sinned, he got the punishment? What if being born gay was the punishment? then he would deserve death because of what his parents did?

How much punishment are sins worth? What sins are greater than others? I thought the Bible said all sin is the same

our forefathers sinned, which is why we are in the mess we are in...

if he was born gay then he would have a choice to keep the law or not...

theres hetrosexual who have never had sex, so what stop a homosexual from abstaining ?

the law is written in the first 5 books, read them.
 
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One Spliff;3369878 said:
our forefathers sinned, which is why we are in the mess we are in...

if he was born gay then he would have a choice to keep the law or not...

theres hetrosexual who have never had sex, so what stop a homosexual from abstaining ?

the law is written in the first 5 books, read them.

What if society, instructed by god to kill homosexuals, noticed that a child was gay, you're saying it would be right to kill that child?

Also, why would it even matter that gays pretend to be straight and follow those laws? They're still gonna be gay and are supposed to die, according to the bible

It doesn't seem very productive to instruct death on a person as punishment on top of a punishment and if reincarnation exists, then that person will reincarnate, maybe in the form of another gay person, and they'll die again???

And if reincarnation exists, then when does reincarnation stop and the idea of hell/heaven begin?

And if our forefathers sinned but others didn't, what would stop a decendent of the sinning forefathers from reincarnating into someone who is by blood a descendent of the unsinning forefathers? Didn't the bible say all have sinned? So we're all on a neverending cycle of sinning, death and punishment?
 
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God says homosexuals should die. How many homosexuals have you killed recently? you probably never will and by that, you're not following his law????

Who should homosexuals be put to death by?Should we write Pres. Obama and tell him to round them all up and burn them? Maybe you should start the petition

But wait! the Bible says don't judge anyone and don't kill anyone
 
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Jaded Righteousness;3369975 said:
What if society, instructed by god to kill homosexuals, noticed that a child was gay, you're saying it would be right to kill that child?

Also, why would it even matter that gays pretend to be straight and follow those laws? They're still gonna be gay and are supposed to die, according to the bible

It doesn't seem very productive to instruct death on a person as punishment on top of a punishment and if reincarnation exists, then that person will reincarnate, maybe in the form of another gay person, and they'll die again???

And if reincarnation exists, then when does reincarnation stop and the idea of hell/heaven begin?

And if our forefathers sinned but others didn't, what would stop a decendent of the sinning forefathers from reincarnating into someone who is by blood a descendent of the unsinning forefathers? Didn't the bible say all have sinned? So we're all on a neverending cycle of sinning, death and punishment?

this why u have to read it...lol

how can u kill a child who is a homo ?...lmao...the child has to have broken the law first.

leviticus 20: 13If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

you have to have laid with another man to have commited a sin...

as for reincarnation, theres a judgement after death...some recarnate, some dont..the scriptures dont go into detail on laws of reincarnation.

the idea of heaven n hell is based on western and religios dogma...its bullshit.

everybody goes to the spirit world after death, wether good or bad...then after that their judged, but their will be an ultimate judgement at the end of time for a paticular generation.

the kingdom of heaven is on earth as it is in heven, its an earthly kingdom.
 
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Jaded Righteousness;3370003 said:
God says homosexuals should die. How many homosexuals have you killed recently? you probably never will and by that, you're not following his law????

Who should homosexuals be put to death by?Should we write Pres. Obama and tell him to round them all up and burn them? Maybe you should start the petition

But wait! the Bible says don't judge anyone and don't kill anyone

lmao...the law was only given to one nation of people, thats israel.

obama is not even an israelite, hes an ugly ass african...the israelites were the negroes that the africans sold to the whiteman and arabs.

the law of homo's is still in affect to this day in certain parts of africa and the middle east...they kill homo's and adulterers out there.

the western world refuse to acknowledge gods laws or anything god says, yet a president SWEARS IN on the bible, yet they use the bible in the court of law...yet they claim 'in god we trust'...lol...it shows u that they are hypocrites and will be punished accordingly.

your last comment was very 'vibe' like...

the majority of the bible is war, killing and bloodshed...shit, gods chosen people were straight up warriors, king david killed thousands in battle...

u can kill in war and u can kill according to the law, but murder is against the law...there a difference.

and of course u can judge, u judge according to the law.

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blakfyahking;3370373 said:
what's up with all these lion avis?

is this a club or something?

israel are awekening in these last days.

trade in your cheetah for a lion n join the club
 
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blakfyahking;3370373 said:
what's up with all these lion avis?

is this a club or something?

you is just as outlandish as your Location

2 Kings 1717:25 And so it was at the beginning of their dwelling there, that they feared not YHWH: therefore YHWH sent lions among them, which slew some of them.

17:26 Wherefore they spake to the king of Assyria, saying, The nations which thou hast removed, and placed in the cities of Samaria, know not the manner of the Elohim of the land: therefore he hath sent lions among them, and, behold, they slay them, because they know not the manner of the Elohim of the land


get yourself right or this^^^^^^^^^Might happen to you
 
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One Spliff;3370422 said:
israel are awekening in these last days.

trade in your cheetah for a lion n join the club

my yout I might just take you up on your proposition

I sincerely believe there is a lion hidden in every strong willed man's soul
 
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One Spliff;3370422 said:
israel are awekening in these last days.

trade in your cheetah for a lion n join the club

WORD UP, it's scaring the shit out of them......Judah is being Roused up, seeing hebrews waking up and claiming ther heritage is a beautiful thing
 
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well there you go

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seems appropriate for this thread haha
 
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MICH 5:8 And the remnant of Jacob shall be among the Gentiles in the midst of many people as a lion among the beasts of the forest, as a young lion among the flocks of sheep: who, if he go through, both treadeth down, and teareth in pieces, and none can deliver.

9Thine hand shall be lifted up upon thine adversaries, and all thine enemies shall be cut off.



GENESIS 49:1 And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days.

8Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father's children shall bow down before thee.

9Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?



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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;3365866 said:
Well why does God repeatedly command His people to flee from Babylon if there is no issue with living inside Babylon? I am not making this up. Here are scriptures. Is God a liar?

"And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." Revelation 18:4

“Remove out of the midst of Babylon, and go forth out of the land of the Chaldeans, and be as the he goats before the flocks.” Jeremiah 50:8

“Cut off the sower from Babylon, and him that handleth the sickle in the time of harvest: for fear of the oppressing sword they shall turn every one to his people, and they shall flee every one to his own land.” Jeremiah 50:16

The voice of them that flee and escape out of the land of Babylon, to declare in Zion the vengeance of the LORD our God, the vengeance of his temple.” Jeremiah 50:28

“Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity; for this is the time of the LORD'S vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence.” Jeremiah 51:6

“We would have healed Babylon, but she is not healed: forsake her, and let us go every one into his own country: for her judgment reacheth unto heaven, and is lifted up even to the skies.” Jeremiah 51:9

My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the LORD.” Jeremiah 51:45

“Ye that have escaped the sword, go away, stand not still: remember the LORD afar off, and let Jerusalem come into your mind.” Jeremiah 51:50

"Go ye forth of Babylon, flee ye from the Chaldeans, with a voice of singing declare ye, tell this, utter it even to the end of the earth; say ye, The LORD hath redeemed his servant Jacob." Isaiah 48:20

"And it shall be as the chased roe, and as a sheep that no man taketh up: they shall every man turn to his own people, and flee every one into his own land.

15Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword." Isaiah 13:14-15





Now if you don't want to listen to God that's on you. But I will not be partaker of Gods judgment upon Babylons sin. America is going to be destroyed in 1 hour by the 10 kings of Revelation. God ordained the fate of America before the foundations of the world. If you think God is playing, Hey sorry for you. A lot of people will still be living inside of Babylon the Great when it is destroyed because they refused to listen to GOD! it's the same old human story, people always assuming they know more than God based on what "they see" and what "they feel". So hey your entitled to your opinion, but I will trust what THUS SAITH THE LORD!





Babylon the Great falls FIRST and than the mark of the beast comes. Read revelation 14. Once you escape Babylon you must make getting to Jerusalem your goal. The wilderness is where the arc of safety will be in the last days. God will shut the door to the arc just like he shut the door to Noahs arc before the judgment comes. And once the door is shut, no man can open it back up. All those outside of the wilderness will be subject to the reign of the BEAST that is to come. The chances of living through the reign of the beast outside of the wilderness are slim. There will be pockets of survivors scattered, but it will be terrible. And more than likely you will be killed if you refuse the mark of the beast just as God said in His word.







So why not just listen to God and believe His word. Escape out of Babylon my friend. Don't make this difficult. Trust God and live or deny God and die.

...and at your own free will you listen to God. We can't even comprehend Him, so what makes you think the issue is about fleeing the country? We can't flee sin no matter where we go.
 
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alissowack;3371955 said:
...and at your own free will you listen to God. We can't even comprehend Him, so what makes you think the issue is about fleeing the country? We can't flee sin no matter where we go.
You said it my friend. You use your own free will to listen to God. I'm just the messenger, a watchman standing on the wall and blowing the trumpet. I can't force you to do anything because you have your own will. So the issue isn't about fleeing sin, it's about fleeing so that you are not consumed in the judgment. Just as lot was commanded to flee from Sodom before judgment came upon that city, so will those who hear the call to flee from Babylon likewise flee before the judgment comes.

How you respond when the time comes will be up to you. I just pray that the seeds which were planted in your heart, mind, and soul will be useful when the time comes to make an informed decision based upon the leading of the Holy Spirit in your life.
 
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One Spliff;3368854 said:
u got the 1000 year riegn confused with the heavenly kingdom...

you said yourself there will be no temple, thats the 1000 year reign in which there will be no temple...christ is the lamb like it says in rev 22, so how can we reign with christ 1000 years and still have a temple ?, that makes no sense.

as for the 70 weeks, few questions:

1. from what year was the 69 weeks fufilled ?...and what year did they span to ?

2. there are two abmoninations of desolation mentioned in the book of daniel, one in chapter 11, once in chapter 9 and chapter 12...chapter 11 is referring to antiocus IV, which is chapter 9 n 12 referring ?

remember how christ spoke of the abomination of desolation in matthew 24 ?....christ was talking of a future desolation, has it happened already ?...because matt 24 is an ENDTIME prophecy...so when was the desolation in the last week of daniel fufilled ?

3. who is king david in the OT propchies ?...and when will he return ?

u see where u go wrong is the third temple...in order for an abomination of desolation to take place, there obviously has to be a temple...so are u telling me its going to take place during the 1000 year reign with christ ?

also hosea 6:2 clearly says in the third day...

1 day = 0-1000
2 day = 1000-2000
3 day = 2000-3000

in the third day he will raise us up...so when in the third day ?

thats why u need daniel 9 and 12 to answer this...

daniel 9: 24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. 25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

daniel 12: 11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. 13But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

the week is 7 years, and 1290 days is half way thru the week...

but whats more intresting is messiah mentioned in daniel 9, you guna have to be more specific as to when messiah was cut off, and what time the 69 weeks spanned to.

also what holy city si it talking about in daniel 9 ?...cant u see that daniel 9:23 is clearly an endtime propehcy like daniel chapter 12 ?

these weeks havent been fufilled thats why it says "24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness"

Let's first work on clarifying these 2 points.

1. Ezekiel 40-48 is the millennial temple. Agreed?

2. Revelation 21-22 is speaking about the eternal rest after the millennium. Agreed?
 
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