Don't ask, Don't tell = One of the main reasons why Babylon falls!

[VIBE]

Can someone tell menwhy mystery Babylon is refered to as a city? America is a country not a city, so how can Babylon be america?

 

[One Spliff]

Let's first work on clarifying these 2 points.

1. Ezekiel 40-48 is the millennial temple. Agreed?

2. Revelation 21-22 is speaking about the eternal rest after the millennium. Agreed?

no...rev 21-22 is talkin about the 1000 year reign, after that the rest of the dead will come to life...theres no seperation really...its just a 1000 year reign for those who accepted the gospel and called on his name in the last days.

ezekiel 41-48 is the rebuilding of the third temple and the return of the prince/king david, who is the prince in ezekiel 48 otherwise ?...its obviously not christ, because the prince will be offering sacrifices.

like i said if we guna reign 1000 years with christ, then why wud we need a temple...rev 21 says that the lamb will be the temple.

 

[One Spliff]

Can someone tell menwhy mystery Babylon is refered to as a city? America is a country not a city, so how can Babylon be america?

nobody is this dumb...

go look up the 'word' city...

how can america be a country ?.. a country has a sovreignty, not a president...america is more of an empire, with multiple states and a senate and a president, each state in america has its OWN laws so how cna it be a country ?...a country is supposed to be under the kings law as a whole country, not serperated with different state laws.

america is one huge city or kingdom.

u using modern terms and not even udnerstand their true definitions.

its also funny how u havent replied to my last post, after i showed u reincarnation LOL was around in the new testament...dummy.

 

[VIBE]

This can't be real life. So now America is not a country.

This is why I hate religious shit, always twisting shit to make it fit your views.

I'm done.

 

[VIBE]

Ahhh btw I dont really give a fuck about reincarnation...

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Can someone tell menwhy mystery Babylon is refered to as a city? America is a country not a city, so how can Babylon be america?

Babylon has a main city and that is New York. Babylon also has many cities and that is the whole of the United States. It's one in the same Vibe. All of America will be laid desolate in 1 hour. The whole earth is going to move at the taking of Babylon. It's going to be MASSIVE overkill. Amen.

 

[alissowack]

You said it my friend. You use your own free will to listen to God. I'm just the messenger, a watchman standing on the wall and blowing the trumpet. I can't force you to do anything because you have your own will. So the issue isn't about fleeing sin, it's about fleeing so that you are not consumed in the judgment. Just as lot was commanded to flee from Sodom before judgment came upon that city, so will those who hear the call to flee from Babylon likewise flee before the judgment comes.

How you respond when the time comes will be up to you. I just pray that the seeds which were planted in your heart, mind, and soul will be useful when the time comes to make an informed decision based upon the leading of the Holy Spirit in your life.

So is man's salvation...at our own free will?

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

no...rev 21-22 is talkin about the 1000 year reign, after that the rest of the dead will come to life...theres no seperation really...its just a 1000 year reign for those who accepted the gospel and called on his name in the last days.

ezekiel 41-48 is the rebuilding of the third temple and the return of the prince/king david, who is the prince in ezekiel 48 otherwise ?...its obviously not christ, because the prince will be offering sacrifices.

like i said if we guna reign 1000 years with christ, then why wud we need a temple...rev 21 says that the lamb will be the temple.

1. Whats the first verse in Revelation 21:1 say my brother? Your answer will tell you how it can't be referring to the 1,000 year rule of Jesus Christ.

2. The prince spoken of in Ezekiel is David. I agree.

3. There are 2 explanations for why there will be a temple and sacrifices during the 1,000 year reign of Jesus Christ.
- The temple sacrifices will be done for a memorial.
or
- The references to the sacrifices are just symbolic language, which is not to be taken literal.

Ultimately we will find out when Jesus Christ comes to set up His kingdom.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

So is man's salvation...at our own free will?

Nope. God predestines those that are His. The Bible is clear about this. Those that are the elect, who were called out by God before the foundation of the world, will respond to and receive the gospel message of Jesus Christ at the appointed time using their own free will.

The sovereignty of God is always at work. There is nothing that God doesn't know; Past, present, and future because He encompasses all facets of time in His eternal being.

 

[alissowack]

Nope. God predestines those that are His. The Bible is clear about this. Those that are the elect, who were called out by God before the foundation of the world, will respond to and receive the gospel message of Jesus Christ at the appointed time using their own free will.

The sovereignty of God is always at work. There is nothing that God doesn't know; Past, present, and future because He encompasses all facets of time in His eternal being.

Then what makes it so that man has a say in whether they choose to take heed to "the trumpet" or not? Would God be just as involved in who will listen?

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Then what makes it so that man has a say in whether they choose to take heed to "the trumpet" or not? Would God be just as involved in who will listen?

Read Ezekiel 33:1-7 and you tell me what the Holy Spirit revealed to you. Seriously.

"1Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 2Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman: 3If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people; 4Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head. 5He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul. 6But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand. "

 

[TX_Made713]

Heavenru still hangin in there with the IC i see. Why havent you started a church by now?

 

[alissowack]

Read Ezekiel 33:1-7 and you tell me what the Holy Spirit revealed to you. Seriously.

"1Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 2Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman: 3If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people; 4Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head. 5He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul. 6But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand. "

To me, this doesn't address the potency of sin. Destroying America is not going to destroy sin...no matter who hears the trumpet. John the Baptist had Pharisees and Sadducees come to him as he questioned them as to who warned them about the coming wrath; called them a brood of vipers.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Heavenru still hangin in there with the IC i see. Why havent you started a church by now?

What up bro? Yeah, God is still moving in amazing ways in my life. I'm in my Masters program now at seminary, so the calling that the Lord has on my life will be realized real soon. How you been?

 

[TX_Made713]

What up bro? Yeah, God is still moving in amazing ways in my life. I'm in my Masters program now at seminary, so the calling that the Lord has on my life will be realized real soon. How you been?

Masters? thats pretty good. I just started the masters program at my college for information systems. I know how that is. Ive also gotten back in the bible. Im trying to live my life with God on my side...slowly gettin back close with him

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

To me, this doesn't address the potency of sin. Destroying America is not going to destroy sin...no matter who hears the trumpet. John the Baptist had Pharisees and Sadducees come to him as he questioned them as to who warned them about the coming wrath; called them a brood of vipers.

Babylons destruction is just 1 piece of the prophetic picture. If you read Revelation 14 you will see that Babylon (America) falls first and then the mark of the beast comes. The Antichrist doesn't emerge until after the destruction of Babylon. So this piece is just 1 of many. All I am doing is posting relevant information for anybody who resides in this country (Babylon), so that people will have a firm grasp and understanding about 1 of the major pieces of prophetic revelation. No where have I ever said that the destruction of Babylon would eradicate sin. The opposite is actually true, sin is multiplied because of Babylon the great. Babylon has made the world CRAZY because of how it exports sin to the whole world.

Ultimately the destruction of sin will be accomplished at the 2nd advent of Jesus Christ. Amen.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Masters? thats pretty good. I just started the masters program at my college for information systems. I know how that is. Ive also gotten back in the bible. Im trying to live my life with God on my side...slowly gettin back close with him

Thanks my dude. Blessings to you as well as you continue to further your education. That's great that you've gotten back into fellowship with the Creator. I pray that you will continue to draw closer and closer to Him, until you are conformed into the image of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.

 

[alissowack]

Babylons destruction is just 1 piece of the prophetic picture. If you read Revelation 14 you will see that Babylon (America) falls first and then the mark of the beast comes. The Antichrist doesn't emerge until after the destruction of Babylon. So this piece is just 1 of many. All I am doing is posting relevant information for anybody who resides in this country (Babylon), so that people will have a firm grasp and understanding about 1 of the major pieces of prophetic revelation. No where have I ever said that the destruction of Babylon would eradicate sin. The opposite is actually true, sin is multiplied because of Babylon the great. Babylon has made the world CRAZY because of how it exports sin to the whole world.

Ultimately the destruction of sin will be accomplished at the 2nd advent of Jesus Christ. Amen.

But, shouldn't the focus be on what God has done through Christ...and not whether we take heed to the signs and wonders? It sounds like you want people to believe in God based on these prophecies and not on His Gift of Salvation.

 

[One Spliff]

1. Whats the first verse in Revelation 21:1 say my brother? Your answer will tell you how it can't be referring to the 1,000 year rule of Jesus Christ.

2. The prince spoken of in Ezekiel is David. I agree.

3. There are 2 explanations for why there will be a temple and sacrifices during the 1,000 year reign of Jesus Christ.

- The temple sacrifices will be done for a memorial.

or

- The references to the sacrifices are just symbolic language, which is not to be taken literal.

Ultimately we will find out when Jesus Christ comes to set up His kingdom.

the new heaven n earth is the kingdsom of heaven being set up on earth, its not literal...it just represent the end of an age, and the this will happen after the final judgemnt and babylon is destroyed.

its after babylon is destroyed that our kingdom will be established.

maybe your confusing the two thousand year periods in revelation 20...

the devil being bound for 1000 years is the downfall of the roman empire in 300-400 ad, and their revival in the 1400's during the renissiance period, which means rebirth.

after the thousand years that satan is loosed out of his prison is'nt after the same as the 1000 year reign of christ, that comes after...altho its not written that order in rev 20.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

But, shouldn't the focus be on what God has done through Christ...and not whether we take heed to the signs and wonders? It sounds like you want people to believe in God based on these prophecies and not on His Gift of Salvation.

Come on man. Like really? All I do is exalt Jesus Christ. In my private life, in my public life, on the streets, on the internet, everywhere. It's always all about Jesus Christ! If you would listen to His word and His warnings, you would obey Him. OBEDIENCE IS BETTER THAN SACRIFICE!

I swear it's like you truly can't please everyone. Somebody always has a complaint. I am spreading a prophetic message in these days in which we live in. This is what God told ME to do. My calling is different than your calling. I'm doing the work that God has called me to do and I answer to Him. Whatever your work is you do it. We all have different positions and offices in the body of Christ, but we all work together. We don't bash each other and scoff at the work that others are doing.

You remind me of Sanballat and Tobiah. I'm doing a great work for God and here you are trying to make me come down from the wall that I am building. But like Nehemiah said, "I am doing a great work, so that I cannot come down: why should the work cease, whilst I leave it, and come down to you?" Nehemiah 6:3

If you want to be disobediant to the message given. YOUR BLOOD IS ON YOUR OWN HEAD. I gave you scripture references and all you want to do is finagle around them, like they aren't speaking directly to you. If God says something you do it! If you want to honor Jesus Christ, you LISTEN TO HIM! He said to flee Babylon OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER again. And then here you are trying to argue against fleeing. Talking about shouldn't the focus be about what God did through Jesus Christ? WHAT? Your openely in opposition to what Jesus Christ said in His word. If you was truly focused on Jesus Christ you would listen to Him and not argue. It's ridiculous.

I side with Ezekiel though. They refused to listen to his message. Just like all the other prophets as well. The people always thought that it wouldn't happen, that judgment would never come, that destruction was not to be the lot of their life. Well guess what, IT CAME and THEY PERISHED! Many people will hear the call to flee Babylon and will ignore it and guess what, THEY WILL ALL PERISH. Then this saying can be brought to pass upon their heads.

"And when this cometh to pass, lo, it will come, then shall they know that a prophet hath been among them." Ezekiel 33:33

I love you my friend. But I just hate it when people in the body of Christ are trying to hinder and find fault in others people's work and calling. It's shameful how there is no unity in the body of Christ. We should be praying for one another, helping one anther, loving one another, and encouraging one another. We are in the same body with Jesus Christ at the head. Let us come together in unity, not in strife, division, or contention. Amen.