Don't ask, Don't tell = One of the main reasons why Babylon falls!

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Jaded Righteousness;3376700 said:
Nationality and religion are two different things. You believe in a religion. A false one at that and you probably have no proof that your ancestors come from israel

Religion: a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects

how do i have no rpoof my ancestors came from israel ?... are'nt the israelites described as black people in the bible ?....didnt they pass for ancient egyptians ?...not to mention the propehcies fit them...lmao...r u serious ?...go and look at the customs and practices in west africa and compare them to the customs in the old testament.

and nationality is not a religion, thats THE POINT im trying to explain to you, how can being an israelite or a jew be a religion ?...that makes no sense just like u said lol.

show me proof the people in israel are descandants of the israelites in the bible...can u do it ?...infact they dont even call themselves israelites they call themselves israeli's.
 
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One Spliff;3376776 said:
how do i have no rpoof my ancestors came from israel ?... are'nt the israelites described as black people in the bible ?....didnt they pass for ancient egyptians ?...not to mention the propehcies fit them...lmao...r u serious ?...go and look at the customs and practices in west africa and compare them to the customs in the old testament.

and nationality is not a religion, thats THE POINT im trying to explain to you, how can being an israelite or a jew be a religion ?...that makes no sense just like u said lol.

show me proof the people in israel are descandants of the israelites in the bible...can u do it ?...infact they dont even call themselves israelites they call themselves israeli's.

Do you know what part of Africa your ancestors came from?
 
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The true religion of West Africa is vodun. The customs and practices in Africa vary depending on what country you're in. Both Vodun and the Egyptian religions pre date Christianity, Judaism, The Bible, or anything you get your religion from. Most stories and laws in the Bible come from laws and practices that had existed way before anyone thought to sit down and write the Bible
 
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Jaded Righteousness;3377089 said:
The true religion of West Africa is vodun. The customs and practices in Africa vary depending on what country you're in. Both Vodun and the Egyptian religions pre date Christianity, Judaism, The Bible, or anything you get your religion from. Most stories and laws in the Bible come from laws and practices that had existed way before anyone thought to sit down and write the Bible

most africans are'nt israelites bruh...but israelites are scattered thru africa, but the majority of israelites are in south, central and north america...the natives and indigenous of the americas were hebrews also.

it was the dirty ass africans that sold the hebrews into slavery...

take the igbo of nigeria for example, igb means eeboo or heeboo which comes from the word hebrew...

if u accept that the ancient egyptians were dark skinned, and u automatially accept that the israelites were dark skinned, lol...so its not hard to put two n two together and get 4.

the key is the propehcies tho, god clearly told his people he would sell them into slavery in slave ships and curse them if they didnt keep his laws and commandments.

the laws in the bible obviously existed b4 they were given to moses, abraham knew them for example, even adam knew gods laws.

i dont know what stories u claim existed b4, but the bible is simply a history book...n the majority of that history is war tbh, it has propehcies, laws and wisdom...thats what the bible consists of, nothign more nothing less...how can a book of history be used as a religion ?...makes no sense.

you can study ancient medo-persian empire, and u'll see that king cyrus was famous for liberating the jews, which btw was propehcised in the bible before it even happened.

alexander the great is famous for conquering most of the known world, which just happens to be propehcised in the bible before it even happened.

king xerxes from the movie '300' is mentioned in the bible, king darius, king cryus, alexander, antioucious IV, well known babylolians kings, assyrian kings, egyptian pharoahs, the bible has been proven to be an authentic source of hsitory time and time again.

so lets not even go there.
 
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VIBE86;3372257 said:
This can't be real life. So now America is not a country.
you know... i am pretty sure you can go look up "city" or "country" and you'll be supported by your local dictionary
 
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Jaded Righteousness;3377235 said:
and you don't know whether your ancestors would be israelites or not

i edited my post, re-read it.

but yea of course, through propehcies we know.

israelites have a 'unique spirit'...we dont act anything like africans or even look like africans.

theres many different nations on this planet bruh, even chineese and japenesse beloong to two seperate nations, im using modern terms of course, but they have biblical names.
 
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One Spliff;3377221 said:
the key is the propehcies tho, god clearly told his people he would sell them into slavery in slave ships and curse them if they didnt keep his laws and commandments.

the laws in the bible obviously existed b4 they were given to moses, abraham knew them for example, even adam knew gods laws.

i dont know what stories u claim existed b4, but the bible is simply a history book...n the majority of that history is war tbh, it has propehcies, laws and wisdom...thats what the bible consists of, nothign more nothing less...how can a book of history be used as a religion ?...makes no sense.

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Of course Moses knew the "laws". Moses was an Egyptian priest, so the story goes. Some of the commandments for example come from and/or were based off of the laws of Ma'at, in ancient Egypt

Your beliefs become religion when you start talking about prophecies and following laws supposedly made up by a creator god who put the universe into being for a specific purpose. Did you not peep the definition of religion? The Bible has history in it but that doesn't mean that every word in the Bible is fact.
 
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One Spliff;3377221 said:
if u accept that the ancient egyptians were dark skinned, and u automatially accept that the israelites were dark skinned, lol...so its not hard to put two n two together and get 4.

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The entire continent was dark skinned
 
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One Spliff;3377221 said:
king xerxes from the movie '300' is mentioned in the bible, king darius, king cryus, alexander, antioucious IV, well known babylolians kings, assyrian kings, egyptian pharoahs, the bible has been proven to be an authentic source of hsitory time and time again.

A lot of important figures throughout history are mentioned in fictional and non fictional movies. I don't get your point there but all of these kings being mentioned in the Bible still doesn't prevent any of the religious doctrines and beliefs from being false and fairy tale-ish. If I were to write a book today about a creator god and make up my own religion off the top of my head, I could insert in that book any real event or people of my choice. Still wouldn't make my religion or the entire book true.

On top of that, it's pretty well known now that the Bible has been tampered with, added on to, and some of the books of the new testament didn't even make the final copy. You don't know if the events in the Bible were prophesized or simply written to seem like prophecy

And even if it were prophecy, prophecy of those world events doesn't prove the existance of any god
 
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Another question out of curiosity because people have different interpretations but I want to know who you think, right now, are the decendents of the 12 tribes?
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;3375917 said:
You might want to read the letters from the man who you are talking about. Especially this excerpt.



"15But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void. 16For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel! 17For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me. 18What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel."
1 Corinthians 9:15-18

I can see that this is breeding strife and contention. So lets be followers of Jesus Christ by being obedient to His word my friend.

"Pride leads to conflict; those who take advice are wise." Proverbs 13:10

Let us both be wise and not let that old enemy pride get the best of us. Amen.

Yeah, but this is the same Paul that would call himself the chief of sinners. Does Paul have a right to say these things? Not on his own merit...but in Christ's Name he can.
 
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Jaded Righteousness;3378439 said:
A lot of important figures throughout history are mentioned in fictional and non fictional movies. I don't get your point there but all of these kings being mentioned in the Bible still doesn't prevent any of the religious doctrines and beliefs from being false and fairy tale-ish. If I were to write a book today about a creator god and make up my own religion off the top of my head, I could insert in that book any real event or people of my choice. Still wouldn't make my religion or the entire book true.

On top of that, it's pretty well known now that the Bible has been tampered with, added on to, and some of the books of the new testament didn't even make the final copy. You don't know if the events in the Bible were prophesized or simply written to seem like prophecy

And even if it were prophecy, prophecy of those world events doesn't prove the existance of any god

forget it then...shit....if u dont even believe in the bible then im wasting my damn time.

u sound like a cracker lol...u probably an edomite, i can tell u aint spiritual at all.

im not scholling children back n forth like this man...either u want to learn or u dont...if u were sincere u wud pick up the bible and read it.

300 is'nt a fictional movie lol..its based on the battle of thermoplye, a famouse battle in history.

ur comments about propehcy jus showed how pathetic your perception of the bible really.

let waterproof waste his time with u or somebody else...im done.
 
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waterproof;3378515 said:
you are correct and here you go about Moses stealing Maat

ur wasting ur time with him bruh...

its better we turn our attentions to people who are at least willing to learn.

some people are jus too far gone.
 
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I want to learn. That's why I'm asking you questions, brother but now you're trying to degrade me because you don't know what else to say. I'm just puttin what I've learned from other sources out on the table. If you can't trump it, I'ma roll with what I got
 
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You still haven't told me the differences between Africans and Israelites or who the 12 tribes are
 
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Jaded Righteousness;3378755 said:
You still haven't told me the differences between Africans and Israelites or who the 12 tribes are

u already said u dont believe in prophecy, so how can i answer your questions ?

thats why i said its pointless goin back n forth.

if u at least believed in the bible than i'd be happy to teach u and answer any questions.
 
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